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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:37 am
by theelkspeaks
I played about as well as I think I possibly could in this game, but I still got a B.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends. ... b=overview

Kind of frustrated because I'm chasing the elusive S, but pretty happy otherwise. I'm in promos up to Bronze I now!

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:28 pm
by Psyche
i got an S in my first zac game

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:47 pm
by Psyche


its pretty

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:52 pm
by JasonWazza
So taliyah is amazing this patch, but i worry there is too little counterplay to her W>E combo.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:46 pm
by Accountant
Dodge the W, it's telegraphed and has a small radius

If you see her throw out the E you should be watching for the sign already

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:54 pm
by JasonWazza
In post 704, Accountant wrote:Dodge the W, it's telegraphed and has a small radius

If you see her throw out the E you should be watching for the sign already
If she throws out the E first, she is doing it wrong, and as "telegraphed" as it is now that it's vector casting, it's really quick to cast, and gives very little time to actually move out of the way if it's right on the person.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:11 pm
by Accountant
Oh they patched her? Nice

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:02 am
by JasonWazza
Yeah, and i have been playing it already, because OCE gets patches first.

Also don't think the W takes 1 second like the wiki thinks it does.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:03 am
by Randomnamechange
Why did Sona have to be buffed :(

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:05 am
by animorpherv1
Taliyah's W is .84 seconds or something like that, which is still mre telegraphed than most telegraphed abilities

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:18 pm
by animorpherv1
I don't know why I bother with ranked. It's not like climbing past gold as support (jungle primary but lets be honest) is even possible solo.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:23 pm
by RayFrost
In post 710, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't know why I bother with ranked. It's not like climbing past gold as support (jungle primary but lets be honest) is even possible solo.
[Currently at 58 lp plat 1 as a soloq support main]

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:24 pm
by animorpherv1
In post 711, RayFrost wrote:
In post 710, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't know why I bother with ranked. It's not like climbing past gold as support (jungle primary but lets be honest) is even possible solo.
[Currently at 58 lp plat 1 as a soloq support main]
Hi, trying saying the same thing in fucking gold.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:26 pm
by RayFrost
I mean, I had to climb out of gold as a soloq support main.

I was thinking of leveling an account to 30 to run support only from bronze to plat but the process of leveling an account to 30 is more painful than trying to teach really stubborn people that they need to change their worldview a bit.

If you want some climbing tips, here are a few: go for champions that are very very clear in what they do. Pick more according to your lane than to your team if you have to choose. Never build sunfire cape on a support.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:29 pm
by animorpherv1
Honestly, it's just soooo painful and it feels like I may as well not matter in half (or more) of the games I even play because the team is already winning hard or losing hard regardless of whether I exist. Like I can't do anything about a darius that feeds 7 kills to irelia in 14 minutes and a midlane Ezreal who can't dodge ashe (also mid) ults to save his life.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:34 pm
by Accountant
burdens make the team lose

carries make the team win

supports make the burdens into carries

theoretically

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:35 pm
by animorpherv1
I can only really stop 1(sometimes 2 if I can get a roam) person from being a burden, not 3 or 4 in the first 20 minutes.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:42 pm
by Accountant
Do you really think that 3 or 4 people every game are a burden on your team?

I mean matchmaking is more or less random, it doesn't make sense that the trolls are only on your team and not the enemy team

if you're in such a position that 3 or 4 players on your team are a burden consistently, then 3 or 4 players on the enemy team will also be a burden consistently

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:43 pm
by animorpherv1
I consistently have my non-MS friends tell me I have literally the single worst luck they've ever seen when it comes to random teammates, so maybe not every game, but a hell of a lot of them.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:47 pm
by Accountant
In post 718, animorpherv1 wrote:I consistently have my non-MS friends tell me I have literally the single worst luck they've ever seen when it comes to random teammates, so maybe not every game, but a hell of a lot of them.
i don't think you understand probability

at the point where you're playing enough games to actually climb ranks, the law of large numbers kicks in and negates your shitty luck

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:51 pm
by animorpherv1
I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:56 pm
by JasonWazza
In post 709, animorpherv1 wrote:Taliyah's W is .84 seconds or something like that, which is still mre telegraphed than most telegraphed abilities
Yes but it's that telegraphed for something that can half hit most people, and doing that while someone is stuck in an animation gives even less time to react.

Not to mention, if you haven't hit someone with it, they aren't expecting it to be so quick (if they haven't read the patch notes.)

Also it feels like it's less than .84 seconds (I haven't gone to the point of timing it, but it feels around the .5 second mark.)

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:57 pm
by Accountant
In post 720, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.
look my lad luck isn't a thing only probability exists stop blaming your losses on luck you just look salty at best and making excuses at worst

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:01 pm
by JasonWazza
In post 722, Accountant wrote:
In post 720, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.
look my lad luck isn't a thing only probability exists stop blaming your losses on luck you just look salty at best and making excuses at worst
The problem is your reasoning says that ani has to play extremely often to counter it, which ani may not be willing to do.

Also since the introduction of dynamic, i would say that a Support that isn't in a premade would have an extremely hard time.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:08 pm
by animorpherv1
In post 723, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 722, Accountant wrote:
In post 720, animorpherv1 wrote:I don't think you understand the sheer amount of crappy luck I get.
look my lad luck isn't a thing only probability exists stop blaming your losses on luck you just look salty at best and making excuses at worst
The problem is your reasoning says that ani has to play extremely often to counter it, which ani may not be willing to do.

Also since the introduction of dynamic, i would say that a Support that isn't in a premade would have an extremely hard time.
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