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In post 2099, JasonWazza wrote:

In post 2097, Iecerint wrote:Also, anyone know if anyone's done the math on how many 4800 champs you need to have remaining when 1700 champ shards are a superior way to collect the remaining champions vs. buyin em directly with IP?

Just buy all the 4800 champs, or else your just gambling.

its all about EV

Iece; As lob as there are less 4800s than 6300s for u
You to purchase you'r fine.

Well if we want to be technical.

4:1 would be the ratio at which point you don't actually gain/lose IP over the entire course of using the shards (so something like 3:1 means you will gain IP.)

What're the two sides of that ratio?

4 4800's to 1 6300. (sorry i thought that was self explanatory.)

I got it, just making sure.
Excuse me while I go count my unowned champs...

To make it slightly easier, the current ORIGINAL count is 43 4800's to 32 6300's.

Meaning unless you bought a crap load of 6300's originally then you should definitely go for the shards.

Also out of curiousity, what are people's opinions on the Singed Support that got banned?

In post 2107, JasonWazza wrote:Also out of curiousity, what are people's opinions on the Singed Support that got banned?

this games a cancerous joke and i only play because my friends suck at video games and refuse to learn dota

In post 2096, Iecerint wrote:If I have the alpha/beta, can I delete the legacy client?

no, the new client still uses some files from the old one
I think I read that the old one will automatically be deleted once the new one is self-sustaining
but I'm not sure

much harder to get an S with ivern than it used to be
not in the sense that he's harder to play, but that it takes better kdr, csing, etc to earn it

In post 2107, JasonWazza wrote:Also out of curiousity, what are people's opinions on the Singed Support that got banned?

If you're going to play support, don't play jungle. No one knows how to deal with that shit.

To counter the "it's clearly working" argument, it isn't. A large majorty of his wins are from toplane.

only do it if your adc agrees

In post 2104, JasonWazza wrote:4 4800's to 1 6300. (sorry i thought that was self explanatory.)

Don't forget that the shards also give some blue essence!

Wait what?

I thought you were random rolling, does that give blue essence?

If you're about to play stunbot Twisted Fate tank support with Talisman, Righteous Glory, and Protobelt, let your team know the special kind of hell you're aiming to create for your enemies

Link: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en ... mment=006b

Did i just get told that i have to tell my teammates in champion select my build?

animorpherv1 wrote:

In post 2107, JasonWazza wrote:Also out of curiousity, what are people's opinions on the Singed Support that got banned?

If you're going to play support, don't play jungle. No one knows how to deal with that shit.

To counter the "it's clearly working" argument, it isn't. A large majorty of his wins are from toplane.

He doesn't play jungle, he plays support, and starts by putting the enemy jungler behind, then goes bot lane and supports the carry.

It's kinda sad though the mixed messages people are getting because this whole issue is beyond not explained properly to anyone.

My impressions is that its a singed, and singed doesnt follow the same rules about laning and stuff that everyone else, because of his niche. Banning for that idk, might be symptomatic of different issues.

In post 2115, JasonWazza wrote:He doesn't play jungle, he plays support, and starts by putting the enemy jungler behind, then goes bot lane and supports the carry.

From what I understand he doesn't ever actually support the lane. He just marks himself as support, counter jungles and does singed things while leaving his ADC out to dry. The problem isn't that he's singed support. It's that he's not supporting.

I've never heard of this.

Although Ivern support is fun

In post 2117, zoraster wrote:

In post 2115, JasonWazza wrote:He doesn't play jungle, he plays support, and starts by putting the enemy jungler behind, then goes bot lane and supports the carry.

From what I understand he doesn't ever actually support the lane. He just marks himself as support, counter jungles and does singed things while leaving his ADC out to dry. The problem isn't that he's singed support. It's that he's not supporting.

Issue is that seems to be what a lot of people are being told, which is blatantly false, what he does do is counter jungle a buff early putting the enemy jungler behind, go gank mid/top situation allowing and then goes bot to support his ADC, while roaming and such like a normal support.

counter jungling a buff and then ganking mid or top is a great way to put your own adc super behind

Serious talk - if my support left me alone to lane against a duo lane as ANYTHING so he could counterjungle the enemy jungler then gank top as a fucking Singed, I would report him so fast it's not funny. Especially if he's not saying anything. It's not fair to me when I'm in ranked trying to play my best and climb and there's this asshole who isn't talking who's supposed to be in the lane helping me, I could only assume he's trolling.

In post 2121, animorpherv1 wrote:Especially if he's not saying anything.

Except the guy posts in champion select what he plans to do.

In post 2122, JasonWazza wrote:

In post 2121, animorpherv1 wrote:Especially if he's not saying anything.

Except the guy posts in champion select what he plans to do.

Riot basically confirmed in a post today that he didn't say a damn.

I mean, they have never monitored champion select or post game chat.