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In post 1646, Nosferatu wrote:is this a kalista meme or is it just me being bad?

I see a ton of lockdown CC on their team and no QSS in your inventory.

also the bork was probably a waste of gold

In post 1650, Papa Zito wrote:

In post 1646, Nosferatu wrote:is this a kalista meme or is it just me being bad?

I see a ton of lockdown CC on their team and no QSS in your inventory.

I thought about getting merc but I was dodging morg pretty well in lane so I figured I'd focus against burst rather than the cc.

In post 1651, Papa Zito wrote:also the bork was probably a waste of gold

I always thought it worked well with kalista's passive bonus % health damage

It's supposed to help deal with tanks, and you weren't facing any.

also, kalista's passive on W can only proc once per 10 seconds so additional attack speed is worthless for that purpose and there's no benefit from having two things that apply max health % damage unless it's the most effective way to attack.

The bad thing is that Kalista does want to build attack speed for her rend and jumpy jumpy and there aren't great alternatives even though BOTRK isn't great against non-tanks. What do you think Kalista's build order should be here, Zito? I think Kalista is stuck in a pretty bad place build-wise right now.

Runaan's PD provides sufficient attack speed - if you need more, statikk shiv is the remaining option

I'd consider a pretty solid six item kalista build to be (in order of "in a vacuum, this should probably be bought in this order maybe?") runaan's, serkers, BT, pd, IE, merc scim / GA

Becomes less of a vacuum, becomes more specific

Not that I'm an expert but against all that lockdown I'd have probably gone something like Hurricane->BT->QSS->PD->IE. You don't really need armor pen or bork because they weren't building defense but the midgame QSS makes you way safer. I'd pick PD over shiv because you already have waveclear with Anivia and pushing power with Hurricane.

If you're sure all you need is damage, the highest damage build is probably hurricane, pd, IE, BT, shiv

But that's never the case so listen to zito and build a qss

Also shiv technically is more damage output than pd in quite a few cases (and the extra movespeed on pd passive is somewhat wasted on miss jumpsalot), but pd's damage reduction passive is more relevant (it's also cheaper to buy)

does PD damage reduction proc on hurricane bolts?

So I want to compare my toplane ranked stats when playing as karthus with my midlane ranked stats when playing as karthus. Does anyone know of a site that can pull that (comparing champion performance between roles for a particular summoner name) off?

they're going to nerf rylais soon and that's sure to disrupt my ascent to gold

In post 1661, Psyche wrote:they're going to nerf rylais soon and that's sure to disrupt my ascent to gold

NO

NO

NO

found another champ stats site
http://lolalytics.com/

nunu may be op as of patch 6.20
there are only 8 champions that have a higher winrate at 101+ games experience and they're making him stronger

Nunu is unpopular, so the only people playing him are people already very good at Nunu. That may be why the winrate is high.

Ivern is available. I just love his interactions:



"Lord Grompulous Kevin Ribbitton of Croaksworth. I am at your service, my liege."

I like Ivern, but 100% can't play him if you think any of your laners will lose because he is so utility based.

Realized that really quickly playing with some of my bronze friends that i play with every now and then.

Ivern seems ridiculously OP.

Super jg clear, mad invades, root, daisy does more damage than tibbers + knockups, has a shield

Is it not as good in practice as it seems?

damage feels unreliable
ideas for how to build him?

this seems cool: http://www.riftherald.com/lol-guides/20 ... -abilities

GUYS THEY'VE DONE IT

In post 1668, Nosferatu wrote:Ivern seems ridiculously OP.

Super jg clear, mad invades, root, daisy does more damage than tibbers + knockups, has a shield

Is it not as good in practice as it seems?

I don't know how powerful he'll be but consider:

1. Daisy doesn't stun immediately like Tibbers, which is a big reason Tibbers is awesome.
2. Daisy doesn't necessarily do more damage: in fact practically speaking it's probably not close, Tibbers does more. Tibbers does initial damage of 150/275/400 + 65% AP. Daisy does none. Tibbers himself does less damage than Daisy, but that's not where a lot of Tibbers power comes from. The knockup of Daisy seems good though.

I figured you'd get runic echos and then build like a normal mage supp

get grail/crucible maybe [locket, rylai, harbringer] + [insert random defensive items]

pedit: ye that's true

actually not rylais cause daisy doesn't apply spell effects and the root lasts longer than the stun

In post 1659, zoraster wrote:does PD damage reduction proc on hurricane bolts?

To answer this, PD damage reduction passive only works on the most recently damaged champion. I believe this prioritizes your auto attack target, but I do not know for sure.