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skip tier 2 boots.

i don't think anyone is saying to skip it, but it's often pushed a lot longer now than it used to be. Although Greaves got buffed since that patch where 80% of people went Swifties.

Am I allowed to love Zyra support after her change? I kind of do but I'm concerned that all her recommended items are for mid mage and I'm playing a bad.

is that

IS THAT A LEE SIN BUFF I SEEE!??!?!

AND BY BUFF I MEAN RESTORING THE USE OF ONE OF HIS CRIPPLED LEGS NOT FITTING HIM OUT WITH SOME SHEET OF ARMOR THAT MAKES HIM MORE OF A GOD

In post 1502, Oman wrote:Am I allowed to love Zyra support after her change? I kind of do but I'm concerned that all her recommended items are for mid mage and I'm playing a bad.

Go right ahead! Riot kinda wants her to see some mid play, but good luck with that.

ANI, you missed the question: AM I GOING TO BE BAD BECAUSE I PICK ZYRA BOT? I AM A BRONZIE, I NEED OP PIX.

Zyra will probably solo carry you out of bronze of you can position wellm

In post 1506, Oman wrote:ANI, you missed the question: AM I GOING TO BE BAD BECAUSE I PICK ZYRA BOT? I AM A BRONZIE, I NEED OP PIX.

Zyra bot won't turn a good player bad.

(the reverse is also true)

In post 1506, Oman wrote:ANI, you missed the question: AM I GOING TO BE BAD BECAUSE I PICK ZYRA BOT? I AM A BRONZIE, I NEED OP PIX.

Zyra, Karma, and Soraka are the best supports in bronze, the first two because you can 1v2 and not rely on your ADC early as much as other supports (especially oneslike Janna, Nami, Lulu, etc.) do. Soraka is just completely fundamentally broken while still being the easiest support to play.

Soraka has kind of a low win rate in bronze, surprisingly. 48.81% compared to Gold at 52.47% and Diamond's 50.94% (http://www.bestbans.com/tier/bronze)

In post 1507, animorpherv1 wrote:Zyra will probably solo carry you out of bronze of you can position wellm

WHELP, NO LUCK THERE.

No legit she's a lot of fun and I like her in teamfights and laning. I kind of want to take her as the opposite to the leona that I have a handle on.

I think the biggest thing is you need to be better to get out of Bronze. The champion might make a difference on the margins, but find a champion, any champion within reason, play it a ton, get good at it, and you'll be out of bronze faster than if you yo-yo between champions you think are bringing you to the promise land.

Zyra's a perfect pick into janna, for those of you wondering.

I maintain a 90% winrate in the matchup.

I have also transferred my smurf from NA to the Japanese servers. So I'm currently plat 5 as of finishing my "placements" (two games). Now to see how much ping really impacts my performance.

im a karthus main i guess

In post 1493, Nosferatu wrote:

In post 1487, Dwlee99 wrote:If you can understand ashe's kit properly and know how to group for picks with your team essence reaver is good as it allows you to make more picks with your ult when with your team.
If you don't know how to group for those picks or don't want to for some reason you can go IE.
Recently I've started going back to IE because I don't utilize the CDR that essence reaver gives well enough to make the buy worth it.
I go BF -> Runaan's -> IE -> RFC -> Vamp Scepter/QSS/Skip This -> LDR/Mortal Reminder -> BT/Mercurial/Maw and throw in berserker's greaves somewhere.
Of course this isn't every game, you need to be flexible but it is a general setup.

is it actually worth to get berserker's greaves over another zeal item? The attack speed for greaves is inferior or equal to other upgraded zeal items and the speed difference is negligible, while boots don't have a passive.

usually my build order on her is

zeal -> BF -> runaan's+boots -> ER -> IE -> Vamp scepter -> sell boots+zeal -> BT-> shiv/PD/RFC -> LW item/Maw

I usually don't QSS because I don't have the reaction time or awareness to properly use it, making it a waste of space.

Example endbuild: ER + Runaan's + IE + BF + PD + LDR

You have to consider though that berserker's greaves are only 1100 gold and provide 35% attack speed and some movement speed. Not only is this good gold efficiency regarding the attack speed but it also gives movement speed good for kiting / dodging skillshots. Because of this berserker's greaves are best until late game when you can trade in your boots for a zeal item. Regarding which zeal item, however, I would recommend getting rapid fire cannon over phantom dancer in certain situations as often the ability to get in that extra auto (because you can begin the fight before they get in range to hit you) is very good. It is also possible to finish off kills this way. There are times when phantom dancer is the better option if you are against some dive that you need the movement speed / damage reduction for, but rfc is generally a good pick.

In post 1501, zoraster wrote:i don't think anyone is saying to skip it, but it's often pushed a lot longer now than it used to be. Although Greaves got buffed since that patch where 80% of people went Swifties.

he straight said, buy tier 1 boots, finish your build, somewhere in the middle of your build sell tier 1s for a zeal.

oh. i guess i didn't really read all of that. I understand selling boots 2 if you have 6 slots filled, though i don't think it necessarily makes sense to do so anymore, but i don't think it's worth it to do before that point. 1100 gold for 35 attack speed is pretty damn good even without the move speed. That's less than a zeal for over twice the AS. The finished items don't necessarily give more AS anyway: Rapid Firecannon only gives 30.

Why is it that of the zeal items the one that adds the least AS is called Rapid Fire?

Because it's just a gun that fires rapidly. The other zeal items aren't guns, they're magically charged blades/bows, and can thus fire a lot faster with the addition of the magic

In post 1511, zoraster wrote:Soraka has kind of a low win rate in bronze, surprisingly. 48.81% compared to Gold at 52.47% and Diamond's 50.94% (http://www.bestbans.com/tier/bronze)

It's probably because she is similar to the other utility "amplify-based" supports in that she takes her team's performance and improves it, which really doesn't do very much in bronze since the extra utility can only get you so far. The reason I still recommend her is because she doesn't have very many mechanics that are very difficult to mess up. She also encourages getting better at things that supports need to be on top of to be successful, since you can't really use her ult effectively without knowing what's going on elsewhere on the map and her primary "peel" ability is strong, but requires reading the current situation to use effectively.

Plus, like I said before, her heals are the most disgusting thing in the entire game.

In post 1513, zoraster wrote:I think the biggest thing is you need to be better to get out of Bronze.

PogChamp

In post 1513, zoraster wrote:I think the biggest thing is you need to be better to get out of Bronze. The champion might make a difference on the margins, but find a champion, any champion within reason, play it a ton, get good at it, and you'll be out of bronze faster than if you yo-yo between champions you think are bringing you to the promise land.

You are wrong zyra is OP AF and I am in love with her.


She's amazing, from in front, behind, in any team comp. <3 Zyra.

She's amazing, from in front, behind

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