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Also annie is best mid laner at all levels

Akali mid is really good

Is it? I don't find it to be. And I love Akali.

It's no annie

In post 1335, RayFrost wrote:Also, low elo stomp champions include

• . Honestly. It's the player, not the champion, that stomps.

But the worst you are, the higher chance that those champions include guys that are easier to play. Yeah if you're a bronzo with 300 leblanc games, yeah you'll probably stomp other bronzos, but 50 games on Annie is worth 300 on Leblanc.

If you're in bronze after 300 leblanc games its time to find a new main.

In post 1338, Nosferatu wrote:as a certified low elo bronze, tryndamere doesn't tilt me nearly as hard as darius and I'd rather lane against trynd than dar

Irrelevant! Dsrius wins lanes tryndamere wins games.

I don't think darius is an easy char btw

Yas wind wall is freaking dumb

In post 1355, animorpherv1 wrote:If you're in bronze after 300 leblanc games its time to find a new main.

Do you know how many "I only play skill champs" guys are in bronze? Like a jillion. Leblanc and all characters of her ilk trap people in bronze all the time.

hiplop wrote:

In post 1338, Nosferatu wrote:as a certified low elo bronze, tryndamere doesn't tilt me nearly as hard as darius and I'd rather lane against trynd than dar

Irrelevant! Dsrius wins lanes tryndamere wins games.

I don't think darius is an easy char btw

Darius is easy, but he is tough to win games with because of his scaling. I'm the king of like..the 15/8/15 Darius loss.

In post 1358, PJ. wrote:

In post 1355, animorpherv1 wrote:If you're in bronze after 300 leblanc games its time to find a new main.

Do you know how many "I only play skill champs" guys are in bronze? Like a jillion. Leblanc and all characters of her ilk trap people in bronze all the time.

That's for sure. no arguing here. Just saying that 300 bronze games is a bit high...

People that are stuck in bronze for several hundred games either don't necessarily want to improve (casual players), don't know how to improve, or are toxic.

In post 1359, animorpherv1 wrote:

In post 1358, PJ. wrote:

In post 1355, animorpherv1 wrote:If you're in bronze after 300 leblanc games its time to find a new main.

Do you know how many "I only play skill champs" guys are in bronze? Like a jillion. Leblanc and all characters of her ilk trap people in bronze all the time.

That's for sure. no arguing here. Just saying that 300 bronze games is a bit high...

It took our friend hippo 600 games to get to gold. Sleepo played 200 or so to get to silver. I played 600(of just Jayce) in season 2 to try to get to gold. YOU YOURSELF PLAYED 600 GETTING TO GOLD over 2 seasons. 300 games ain't shit. Especially with how the system is set up. Everyone learns a different pace and at different levels man. Even ank has a couple hundred getting to plat(and that's just counting this year). People get stuck everywhere man. It's no different for bronze then it is anyone else.

S+ Mundo Mid game in ranked. I must be amazzzing

I'm now curious on ranked games per season for me.

202 season 4, 368 season 5, 224 season 6. Total of 794 ranked games, damn.

Does thornmail's damage work even on magic damage from basic attacks? For example, TF's enhanced Autos, Teemo's, etc. It sounds like it should from the tooltip, but that seems wrong.

It reflects damage from basic attacks (even when the attack does no damage) and on-hit effects.

Speaking of which, building thornmail against a kog'maw is very annoying. Just a tip for you guys.

I'm probably biased because leblanc was one of the three holy trinity champs that got me out of bronze

I was in bad shape, 25% winrate total stuck in bronze 5. Then I started playing mundo top, 20 wins in a row and soared out of b5. Leblanc carried me to b2, and volibear carried me from there to silver.

So I guess I have a sentimental fondness for these champs

went 7/0/16 as zac top in a ranked s4 game

as https://web.archive.org/web/20160614062 ... on/Zac/Top suggests, his csing is weak but even in bad matchups it's hard to feed with him and he scales handily into a disruptive ap tank and earlygame roams pretty effectively especially against immobile midlanes

i generally prefer midlane so this pick seems to be reasonably conservative given the time i've been putting into learning the role

Zac has decent cs in my experience! He can pick off distant low health minions with q and his w and e gives him decent waveclear

whenever zac top pops up on champion.gg his cs is among the worst of everyone else who frequents the lane though i may be unfairly comparing him to the ranged champions i normally play

still, besides his q, his skills aren't quite safe csing tools (using e blows your escape) and involve a sacrifice of health, making it easy for enemies with good poke or hard cc to outtrade and zone you especially early game

imagine using your e/w to cs in a lane with darius or wukong, for example

That does make sense. I imagine he'd have good cs against champs who he can farm safely against like shen though

In post 1362, zoraster wrote:S+ Mundo Mid game in ranked. I must be amazzzing

I like it.

In post 1371, Accountant wrote:That does make sense. I imagine he'd have good cs against champs who he can farm safely against like shen though

To be honest zac doesn't "farm safely" against virtually anybody. Even shen is a pretty active lane with him wanting to trade on q cooldown. It may just be that I'm playing at a high enough level that everyone knows how to trade with their champions to some extent, but zac's base autos aren't particularly impressive, and his abilities, while they do good damage, are all aoe (and don't do typically do minion-killing damage by themselves) which makes it harder to do controlled cs'ing with abilities (and trading makes you lose cs a fair amount of the time).

Against bad players who don't trade with me frequently, I can still farm respectably on zac, but he's a lot harder to cs with than most other top lanes I play. A major reason being that he has very farming-assist tools compared to the others. The others either deal tons of damage with their aoe tool (darius q, renekton q, rumble q, gangplank everything) or have point and click stuff (fiora q, teemo poison, shen q, gangplank everything).

I see.