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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:31 am

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I will post just getting round to reading the last 8 pages...
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:41 am

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I wanna lynch him. I don't believe him.

But I'm scared I might be wrong.

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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:43 am

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Battle Mage wrote:Ok as it appears i am not currently voting, and i dont have many suspicions atm that i can recall, i will go back to my last suspicion, which was that of Porochaz. Tell me Porochaz, did you ever answer the questions in my PbPA of you?
One page left to read and I thought Id better answer this. Yes, yes I did.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:46 am

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K having read over I feel BM is most scummy, however he is now at L-2 and I really dont have much more than a "feeling" that he is scummy... and in my book that isnt enough to lynch him so I won't vote unless theres some sort of deadline that I totally overlooked.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:42 am

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Battle Mage (5) -- mandalorian, Gage, pete d, volkan, Albert B. Rampage
JordanA24 (2) -- Mastermind of Sin, Dragon Phoenix
Dragon Phoenix (1) -- Lowell

Not Voting: Unright, JordanA24, Porochaz, Battle Mage, curiouskarmadog, Bookitty
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:52 am

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Come on guys, nobody believes him, let's see this through.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:46 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Come on guys, nobody believes him, let's see this through.
i dont see the logic for lynching me today, even if you feel like this. I wont survive the night if im telling the truth. So the question answers itself.

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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:35 am

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Lynching a scum decreases the chance of mislynch.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:18 pm

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Battle Mage wrote:I wont survive the night if im telling the truth.
Not necessarily

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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:29 pm

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Unvote: BM


I don't believe him, but he's claimed, so lynching is out of the question for the moment.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:21 pm

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waiting on flavor
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:10 pm

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voting BM is dumb.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:19 pm

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Who is your alternative and why?
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:50 pm

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Porochaz wrote:Who is your alternative and why?
More than likely "The person I'm voting for, because I said so". MoS has been thoroughly unhelpful all game.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:53 pm

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Gage wrote:
Porochaz wrote:Who is your alternative and why?
More than likely "The person I'm voting for, because I said so". MoS has been thoroughly unhelpful all game.
how so?
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:58 pm

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Like he just described.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:02 pm

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Well between the two, Gage and MoS, who has been more helpful?
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:04 pm

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One is due to inexperience and naivety while the other is due to complacency and a closed mind.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:59 pm

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Carry on people, I'm halfway through the reread.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:05 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Jordan is stretching like a motherfucker. It is *NEVER* too early to be serious about lynching. Just because DP is willing to lynch a self-voter does not mean that he's trying rush the day, nor does it mean that he's willing to let everyone blindly bandwagon without giving their own opinions. You're bullshitting us this early? Nice try.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan


FoS: ABR
for following him.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:
JordanA24 wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Jordan is stretching like a motherfucker. It is *NEVER* too early to be serious about lynching. Just because DP is willing to lynch a self-voter does not mean that he's trying rush the day, nor does it mean that he's willing to let everyone blindly bandwagon without giving their own opinions. You're bullshitting us this early? Nice try.

Unvote, Vote: Jordan


FoS: ABR
for following him.
So, you'd lynch someone because they voted themselves in the random voting stage?
No, but I'm not DP. He has an established meta for hating self-voters. It's a nulltell, therefore you are stretching to try and make it seem like a scumtell.
Listen carefully, people. I'm only going to do this once. If I have to repeat myself again, I'm just going to quote this post each time until we have a giant quote pyramid that kills the thread.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:I'm still trying to figure out why Jordan has me as one of his top suspects. Where's the case for it? The fact that I've made more useful posts than several of the other people he's analyzed makes me scummy just because I have filler posts rather than just not posting anything in between?
Mastermind of Sin wrote:I'd like to hear from Jordan re: Lowell
Lowell's post that Jordan needs to respond to:
Lowell wrote:2)
vote DP
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fos Jordan
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FOS porachaz
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The sequence around post 200 bothers me more than anything. I read it over a few times just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Basically, DP votes for Jordan. Then, after Jordan makes what in my mind is a mediocre, metagaming post (198), DP declares himself satisfied and unvotes (202). Of all the vote/unvote sequences, this makes the least sense. I think that was some sort of timid distancing attempt.

Jordan, in addition to the above, just gives me a bad feel. Something about his pbpas seem non-commital, and I dont' like the way he's more or less deflected talk of his own scumminess. It's as if he doesn't really want to get involved in an argument about it, particularly with MoS.

Porochaz, on the other hand, has just made a series of scummy moves. I dont' like post 99, or especially post 209. FTR, I do NOT believe that BMs insistance on voting for masons means anything other than he's lazy. It looks like poro just wants something to latch onto.
Why BM is a bad lynch:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Thinking BM is scum based on those votes is a classic case of WIFOM overuse. In addition, I *do* think that BM would try a bit harder to control what he says as scum. At best, if you don't consider it a town tell, no one should consider it any more than a null tell. If it's a null tell, it should be ignored, so people should not be voting him. If you consider it a town tell, you should also not be voting him. Therefore, I see no logical reason for anyone to vote him based on the mason votes. I think it's pretty dumb to do otherwise.
Mod: Can we get a prod on Jordan?
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:19 pm

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Jordan has been prodded.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:27 am

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Gage wrote:
Porochaz wrote:Who is your alternative and why?
More than likely "The person I'm voting for, because I said so". MoS has been thoroughly unhelpful all game.
Well your wrong there then...

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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:12 am

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bah, according to the mod, he doesnt have any flavour for role pms, as he only got the basic roles from Aimee. I guess that doesnt exactly bode well, but if you think i'm trying to get out of claiming flavour, please ask the Mod. In fact, Patrick, if you could post clarifying the situation, that'd be helpful.

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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:24 am

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Battle Mage, you aren't a replacement. Where is your role pm that Aimee sent you?
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:33 am

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still waiting for flavor...or post from Mod.
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