Open 52 - Texas Justice Mafia (Game Over!), before 523

[distad]

My guess is that he liked my reasoning for my vig choice. I really don't know. I think I've only played one other game with Panzer, and I botched the ever-loving HELL out of that game. If the town had been paying attention, because *I* certainly wasn't, there is NO way that I could have won. As soon as I realized what was going on, it was a gimme win for me. I'm still hanging my head in shame for that one. (And I think JDodge is still pissed off about it, too.)

The point is, no one should be considered definite town.

[Gorgon]

Not much happening here, I see.

I decided to look into schism a little.

First off, JDodge votes him first. Not sure how much it means, but it could be distancing.

Another interesting thing on page 5. I lash out at YGLABN for what I saw to be an incomprehensible post, and schism agress with me. Distancing from YGLABN while sucking up to me? Possibly.

Page 10; Oman votes JDodge because "He's been pushing lynches with no reasoning for a while". schism agrees with this while not jumping on the bandwagon. Seems like a potentially noncommital distancing to me.

Page 11; "im tempted to revote oman because i realized there are only two roles in TJ. Should i not? " Why would that matter?

Page 12; Goes ahead and revotes Oman for what I see as pretty weak reasons.

However, here are some things that make me uneasy about distad. There's unfortunately not much to go on, but here it is:

On page 6, distad votes schism and calls him scummy. However, he has yet to express any suspicion against schism now ... not today, not yesterday. What happened to that suspicion? One potential explanation is that distad is pushing for my lynch, thinking he can get schism to side with ... instead of getting me to side with him against schism, which distad possibly feels is a harder task.

I'm also slightly concerned about the fact that distad lamented the fact that Panzer was killed last night, but still admits that he deliberately didn't express suspicion against him yesterday in case that the scum was someone other than Panzer ... why then didn't he express relief that this plan of his worked, and that he had eliminated his #1 suspect? It's small, but there's something bothering me there.

[schismatized]

Hmm. A couple things about gorgon bug me. First of all, this entire game he has not really got after anyone for being scummy. All of his votes were on existing wagons (oman). And it seems like he was against all the night shooting plans early on. I don't know what to make of it. And gorgon, how come you say panzer was the most protown today, but made no mention of it yesterday? looks a tad odd.

On distad.. he looks a little better to me, except for his lack of content. first of all unless he was full of it, i cant see why he would kill YGLABN. Still though it bugs me that hes been lurking most of the game. I dont know.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Just so you know, I will have limited access until Sunday Night or so.

[distad]

I'll be on at some point later this weekend. Lots of golf/drinking/funning.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Official Vote Count:

Nothing!

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.

[distad]

Sorry for my absence, guys.

Schis- my reason for killing YGLABN was dead on. I simultaneously like and dislike playing with JDodge because I can never get any semblance of a read on him. Thus, I take everything he says with a shovel-full of salt.

Gorgon- of course I was unhappy with my plan working. Now I have to think. If Panzer had survived, I was going to throw everything including TWO kitchen sinks at him. I would have lost, but it would have been a very easy end.

And I don't have to be concerned with choosing which one of you will be easiest to convince to side with me. My concern is finding the scum and hoping that the other agrees with my decision.

My problem is that I'm pretty sure it's you, but I can't figure out how to prove it.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Everyone except distad has been prodded.

[Gorgon]

First of all, this entire game he has not really got after anyone for being scummy.

I recall I went after you once; post 127. I botched my vote though. However, overall, I was confused with this game and all the "You're scum" accusations being thrown around mindlessly.

And it seems like he was against all the night shooting plans early on. I don't know what to make of it.

Back that first sentence up. And that second sentence sounds hopelessly vague.

And gorgon, how come you say panzer was the most protown today, but made no mention of it yesterday? looks a tad odd.

Well, it looked from the beginning like there was going to be a no lynch, so it seemed better to just ride out the second day and deal with the survivors today instead of arguing over who looked town and who looked scummy. Anyway, what's your point? I'm assuming you're implying that it's scummy of me to now say that Panzer looked the most protown of the remaining players while not saying anything to that yesterday ... how so? And if you're not implying it's scummy, why bring it up?

Schis- my reason for killing YGLABN was dead on. I simultaneously like and dislike playing with JDodge because I can never get any semblance of a read on him. Thus, I take everything he says with a shovel-full of salt.

Gorgon- of course I was unhappy with my plan working. Now I have to think. If Panzer had survived, I was going to throw everything including TWO kitchen sinks at him. I would have lost, but it would have been a very easy end.

These both look like pretty fair answers.

And I don't have to be concerned with choosing which one of you will be easiest to convince to side with me. My concern is finding the scum and hoping that the other agrees with my decision.

Of course that applies if you're town. I don't know that, do I, though? I hope you don't blame me for attempting to look at things from the perspective of you being scum.

My problem is that I'm pretty sure it's you, but I can't figure out how to prove it.

Well, that's both unfortunate and hard to understand. Why don't you start by actually going over the game and comparing me with schism? Your concern is finding the scum, right?

[schismatized]

Hey all. Will be posting more a little later tonight (work sucks)... just saying I am here.

My problem is that I'm pretty sure it's you, but I can't figure out how to prove it.

This bugs me. And not in an OMGUSy way.

[distad]

The actual problem, schis, is that my deepest, darkest guilty pleasure is 'Murder, She Wrote', and it's a common line from Jessica.

I get a bad buzz from that last line of 358, also. I'll figure this out, don't worry.

I'm not as green as when I replaced for NAR/Piggy in that newbie game, Schis. Give me a little time.

[Gorgon]

My problem is that I'm pretty sure it's you, but I can't figure out how to prove it.

This bugs me. And not in an OMGUSy way.

OMGUSy? Does that mean you thought distad was talking about you?

[schismatized]

That is what I figured.

[distad]

No, Schis. I think it's Gorgon.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Vote Count:

Nobody!

Don't make me prod you all.

[distad]

This will be a giant pain in the ass, but I'll try to put together a 'voting table' so that we can see who voted for whom.

In the meantime, feel free to say stuff.

[schismatized]

hai.

[Gorgon]

Okay, I'm now officially pissed off at this game. I've never been in this situation before, and I hate it. Not least because you two aren't giving me much to go on.

I'm leaning towards schism being the scum, since I have picked up a few clues that I've outlined, and don't have much that is concrete on distad. I also don't like how schism didn't respond when I asked him to back up his assertion that I was "against all the night shooting plans early on"; an assertion that I don't agree with, find needlessly vague, and fail to see the scum-factor in (this applies to a few other things that he's said today as well). Another indication; the fact that he thought distad was saying that he thought that he (schism) was the scum, not me, which reads to me quite possibly the paranoia of an endgamed scumbag.

The thing that still bothers me about distad, though, is that he's giving me ... nothing. Pretty much all he has said today is that he leans towards me being the scum, but doesn't give any solid reasons for this, except the supposed tell he mentioned yesterday, and hints that he doesn't like my tone/attitude/whatever. He's been remarkably quiet about schism, though. He also has still to do any decent analysis of this game ... it's like he keeps promising to do so, but never does. What's the deal, distad?

If things continue like this for much longer, I'm going to say hell with it and vote schism. If I'm wrong, or if it gets me lynched, so be it; at least this game will be over.

[schismatized]

I believe being against having a night strategy is terribly unproductive for the town, and there for a scum tell.

Distad, I would also like the analysis you promised.

[schismatized]

Okay this is getting way too drawn out.

I'm getting ready to vote soon if I don't hear from distad.

[distad]

I'm here guys. I'm sorry for not getting on here of late. I broke the ac-adapter slot on my computer, so it's out of commission. I'm using a computer at my dad's office in the meantime, but I will not have much time, in general.

I will not be able to put together the vote table as promised, and I am sorry about that.

[schismatized]

Well In light of that, I am going to go ahead and take my 50/50.

vote gorgon

[distad]

There's something about the tone of that last post that doesn't sit right with me. It's how I would have posted in his shoes if scum and based on my previous posts. That said, I've felt Gorgon was scum for a little while now, and am willing to base this life on it.

Sayonara, pal.

Vote: Gorgon

If you won, Schis, nicely played.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Gorgon is forced to the tallest tree in town and is lynched. Distad says to schismatized, "We did it! The town is safe!"

Schismatized smirks. "I don't know. This town isn't big enough for the both of us..."

A pistol fires, and distad falls dead in the street.

The Mafia (schismatized, JDodge, You Give Love A Bad Name) have won!

Congrats!

[Haschel Cedricson]

I don't have my laptop, so I can't give you night actions yet. However, I remember at least two people killed UA, and I think two people killed YGLABN, so there were your overlaps.