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ika Survivor
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its late here so i might post stuff later, but i will say this now
Best neigborhood i had in a long time, jsut about every other time i had one it had scum, this game jsut felt right in the hood
ABR is kidna pathetic for repalcing out like that, i dont have any real vendetta against him but he did drop his scum tell which is why i would not let up on him-
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talah Mafia Scum
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Yeah it looked pretty fun over in your neck of the woods.
Ours was all srsbsnss and even then I was hard-townreading Pere just based on the fact I didn't think an identical fakeclaim would be given to my own role. Never seen that before.
So...
Optimal townplay is to just fakeclaim a bunch of bullshit to draw nightkills / confuse scum these days? Along with generally giving no reasons for reads, unless pushed, ofc.
What happens when the well of previously learned meta runs dry?
Egh I understand my reads were really bad this game but I'm used to games where scum can be determined by, y'know, trying to find inconsistencies in stated opinions, and motivations that are scummy.
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In post 1167, Syryana wrote:In post 1163, chamber wrote:Scum got owned during the day anyway, but this setup seems to lean pretty hard towards town.
They did. And though town did have a lot of PRs scum also had a great deal of counterpower; jailkeeper for the townish claim and roleblockery (or even saving a scum from a vig), strongman beats both roleblockery and the one shot BP.
Sure it was swingy as hell, but I don't think it was terribly townsided.
Also,@Ranger, I loved your play here, but I am sort of curious: why the FACK would you watch Molla N1?
I can sorta answer that. Ranger thought scum might skip over you N1 because of the likelihood you'd get doc'd. Which, if scum hadn't had a strongman shot and if town had a doctor...might have happened.-
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ika Survivor
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In post 1176, talah wrote:Optimal townplay is to just fakeclaim a bunch of bullshit to draw nightkills / confuse scum these days?
Along with generally giving no reasons for reads, unless pushed, ofc.
the first part is subjective. me/bbmolla gambited cus we were neighbors and knew what we were doing, if i was jsut a lone VT i prob would of faked a diffrent role. The thing was is that we jsut blaitently trusted each other to a degree where we could face claim our role with 0 drawback. I mean the hood was the biggest pull for us.
As for the later, that seems to be kinda norm? i mean i like to do it for reaciotns. but i will gloss over wall reads all i usal do is leave a sentance or 2. the one with gash though was based on the hood so i didnt have any "real" evidience he was town outside of role-
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talah Mafia Scum
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Well you were - I'm not going to say easy to read - but at least readable. The first few things you said were risky if you were going to just do nothing afterward and I was able to read you because you engaged with me and explained where you were coming from (I could say the same of Ranger Day 2 and sort of pignash as well, but then with Pere in my blind spot I was looking for something a bit more difficult to find in Nosferatu/Mala, for example).
The problem from my perspective was - I had a bunch of incorrect information I was trying to figure things out based on. And I was travelling on the assumption that town basically don't - or try not to - lie.
This was made all the more frustrating by the fact I had Spiffeh in our PT wanting to out our neighbourhood (ok) and then wanting all of us to claim (ok) which didn't eventuate (probably a good thing but GRR), and Molla and yourself mentioning massclaim when I was drooling over that as well just so we could figure out what was probably true and what was probably false.-
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In post 1181, talah wrote:Well you were - I'm not going to say easy to read - but at least readable.
I tend to leave myself an air of oodities to keep people who dont know me all that well engadged with me, its how i keep myself motivated
The first few things you said were risky if you were going to just do nothing afterward and I was able to read you because you engaged with me and explained where you were coming from (I could say the same of Ranger Day 2 and sort of pignash as well, but then with Pere in my blind spot I was looking for something a bit more difficult to find in Nosferatu/Mala, for example).
Thats towns job to be slightly transparent. I knwo you were town based on how nitpicky you are, it used to be an old town trait of mine i abuse a lot but it becomae annoying and taxing to me.
The problem from my perspective was - I had a bunch of incorrect information I was trying to figure things out based on. And I was travelling on the assumption that town basically don't - or try not to - lie.
This will eb twofold one
the first is the setup: i can understand how you got "well this doesn't fit" cus you did have false info (techancly you can blame molla for that cus he claimd doc first and i took it for him), however,one of the thing i had naggling in the back of my mind and breifly brought into the hood (again why i love my hood is that i can post raw there) is that what if it was multiball/sk? doing that openly widens scums escapes cus they jsut ride on that idea. Sometime you ahve to know that you can be right and wrgon on setup spec. I understood your reason for wanting to know my doc shot but even as you can see with a watcher if i claimed i vited BBmolla, ranger would of scrutinized me, i try to keep the gambit cut possible when i do my fakeclaims so i dont make a false claim and then ahve to come out and be liek "ya im VT who lied:
the second is lying: this one again is a subjective thing, i realzie that most towns should not lie. however i run under the principle of "if you can gambit and get away, do it" that can incluse lying. However i leave my lies either vauge enough to get people to stir up a convo, or strightfoward enough to where it gets shrugged off until later.
This was made all the more frustrating by the fact I had Spiffeh in our PT wanting to out our neighbourhood (ok) and then wanting all of us to claim (ok) which didn't eventuate (probably a good thing but GRR), and Molla and yourself mentioning massclaim when I was drooling over that as well just so we could figure out what was probably true and what was probably false.
That was the thing, the hood was had was basicly a masonary. So it is very fickle to reveal . BBmola did good on jsut saying "well i got a hood" and i think that would of been sufficent info to tey to setupepec form there. If i ever get a hood thats masonry to me, i will not out them. I would jsue say "they are mason to me"-
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In post 1166, fferyllt wrote:bbmolla, Syryana and Ranger had awesome reads right from the start,
not from the start
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In post 1176, talah wrote:Yeah it looked pretty fun over in your neck of the woods.
Ours was all srsbsnss and even then I was hard-townreading Pere just based on the fact I didn't think an identical fakeclaim would be given to my own role. Never seen that before.
So...
Optimal townplay is to just fakeclaim a bunch of bullshit to draw nightkills / confuse scum these days? Along with generally giving no reasons for reads, unless pushed, ofc.
What happens when the well of previously learned meta runs dry?
Egh I understand my reads were really bad this game but I'm used to games where scum can be determined by, y'know, trying to find inconsistencies in stated opinions, and motivations that are scummy.
It's all in how it's done. Me and Ika were both obviously not doctors and we both knew it.@thesupertriomusical on Instagram, come see it if you’re in LA area, I wrote it!-
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Well you already know the problem I had was that you went in a roundabout manner just getting reactions I guess at the start of the game with Syr providing explanations and Ranger sheeping. I still have no idea how that was all town (but my "well done" wasn't insincere, it was :rolleyes:).
You think I'm looking at asinine bullshit but then if that was the case it can't have been much different in your large normal. It's just how I scumhunt. The changed gameday broke what I usually do, though. I felt in a constant state of RVS up until about 2 days into the last day.
It's an experience at least. You're obviously different in-game than modding or posting (or even in your PT), so I'm happy to know a bit of how you work.-
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I thoroughly enjoyed this game. Hiveminding with Molla and Ranger was fun as hell.
Don't know what the hell Kid was smoking when he thought the masons thing was an actual claim though.In the timeless words of a great and revered man: "Blow it out your ass."
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In post 1195, talah wrote:I still have no idea how that was all town
It's all in the style, dahling.
FWIW I thought you were the scummiest scumfuck ever until after I died <3In the timeless words of a great and revered man: "Blow it out your ass."
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You can't look at everything at face value, you need to look at intent. I think what eventually townread you for me was some frustrated post you made about what you're talking about right now that rang true. It didn't make sense to me for scum to take that approach so I found you likely to be town.
I can't talk about reading me, I think I'm fairly easy to read personally but obviously I know my playstyle differences, but for me it comes down a lot to just intent. Example, Firebringer's dicking around at the start. Normally, scum intent. Due to special circumstances, I understood why I misread him and eventually he started posting genuine posts that had a more clear town intent.
Idk. It's just gut.@thesupertriomusical on Instagram, come see it if you’re in LA area, I wrote it!-
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