Ok so Lane lynch. I'm tired and want to go to sleep but this needs to happen.
Lucky put the first vote a long time ago due to the vote all unvote later plan (which was initiated by luna and followed by not_mafia later).
OGML votes lane in
114. First significant push on lane again due to beliefs that lane-lucky were a pair. combined with a vedith vote. This rules out the OGML-Vedith pairing I think. OGML defends Luna, kyndy and FB in that post as being towniest of them all (even though OGML waffles on FB pretty much in a previous sequence as well as other sequences in the future). If OGML is scum, then context is that the lane lynch was to distract possibly from either Luna/Sala or Dav who were picking up votes. Except that Davsto had two quick unvotes - so OGML's push was to push lane not to distract from any lynch. Point taken. OGML picked up on post #112 as being scummy:
In post 112, lane0168 wrote:If there's a winner as far as looking more town between vedith and Luma, I'm going to have to lean vedith. In the beginning I had luna, but then get must got bad. All in all I think it's a much of null bs. I get vediths point but don't agree with it, and pretty sure luna just doesn't understand it at all. Pretty pointless argument as are most 1v1s.
I'm going to have to reread again later cause I haven't picked up and obvtown reads or scum reads the first time through.
Then there's a drunkposting discussion which created a second-superfluous thread in the conversation until lane brings a vote on Vedith and FB echoes desire to vote Vedith.
Then I come in and do a catch-up post of some sort which brings momentum directly back to Lane except that I did not vote Lane. Instead I voted kyndy.
FB and OGML talk about things that are not Lane...hrm. Either that could be scum who wanted to move it back to Vedith, or they're town not interested in following the path toward lane yet...Rather there's discussion about Lucky being town or not (mainly due to my list where I put lucky so high up) and then also the conversation from FB asking why I didn't vote lane but suspected him. This leads to OGML voting FB. OGML-FB argue or something and OGML says:
In post 169, Davsto wrote:Looking through, it's a bit late to go through ISOing people but I said I'd give some scumreads so I am gonna do that, because I wanna stick to my promises. Gonna go through each player in alphabetical order and give a very brief, minor read on them (like we're not very far in but might as well), and vote on all of those I scumread at the end (you're welcome Nobody)
Firebringer: Really not a fan, playing quite oddly, at least a couple of his posts sound like he's trying too hard to sound Town. Scumlean.
kyndy101: Makes good points, although not sure if I agree with them. Gonna say null.
lane: Dislike the parroting of the "vote everyone", a lot of nullreading. Scumlean.
Lucky2u: Makes very good points about Luna's posts. Slight townlean.
Luna: Her idea at the start seems to have fair logic in her mind, and I can see why she'd think that, and she also stuck to her guns and kept with it despite scrutiny (while lane unvoted everyone quickly). Townlean.
OhGodMyLife: Again, making nice points, also shows very little worry about what other people read him as, which scum rarely do. Another townlean.
pablito: His big fancy walls of texts look neat, but I'm unsure how much I agree with the points, null with a slight townlean.
Vedith: Oh Vedith, ugh. Like, the points are a balance between intentional misrepping or just a misunderstanding, so I feel that attempting to read them would result in my failure. Reading as null because I can't see him as having said anything beyond that discussion, so I can't really read. Gonna say a scumlean, until I see some more from him.
VOTE: Firebringer
VOTE: lane0186
VOTE: Vedith
So Davsto brings the argument back to lane...but also two other people that are being openly suspected. Davsto does so in a nice convenient way as well. This post needs to be perused. This is the type of post that scum could make to justify a vote to create a wagon. In fact, this was a post to create any wagon really - as those three were mostly suspected.
I can vote Davsto now. He's not at L-1 yet right?
VOTE: Davsto
Lucky then re-votes lane in the next vote. Previously had unvoted all, but brought this wago back. Lucky brought the most direct momentum to the wagon.
OGML only puts urgency toward the wagon after lane has some weird defense posts. My previous read on OGML is retracted.
UNVOTE: OGML
I still think he may be scum based on his reactions with me - but in reality, I don't see OGML as the biggest contributor to the lane-lynch. In fact, he was very open about it, which is either bold scum, or very likely town that wanted the lynch. I could see OGML doing that. But I think Davsto and Lucky's votes are both more scummy at the moment for parking and just letting it happen by letting others talk about Lane more.
This post needs to be interpreted by Lucky ASAP. Without a good response, I won't mind hammering.
In post 237, Lucky2u wrote: In post 232, lane0168 wrote: In post 228, Luna Fox wrote:I don't understand, i thought you said OGML is scum?
I find it weird that you said that they were the scum pushing your wagon and then you are talking to them as if they are wrong town.
Make up your mind, because i feel it's contradictory.
For someone who hates misrepresentation this is weird.
I just said I'm talking them to learn his mindset and to see if he's willing to admit fault. You're the one who thinks I'm talking to him as town. I'm not talking to him as town at all. I can't help if I don't talk to my scum reads the way you talk to your scum reads. My mind is made up. You're the one trying to make it seem like it's not
If your mind is made up and he is scum, why you trying to convince him? Convince us to lynch him. If you do convince him to unvote you, what then? He lives? You switch to town read?
Then there's more lane tripping over feet and then kyndy says intent to hammer with a weird post about lynching lane due to wishy-washy and tunneling rather than pure scumminess.
In the entire sequence, Lucky looks like the one that pushed Lane's lynch the most I think. Davsto parked a vote and kyndy hammered. I am starting to like seeing any one of these be lynched today with my preference on Davsto. I need to hear a lot more from Lucky - my early early game read about his pushes on Luna about town-hunting may have cloaked my perception of him throughout the rest of the day. In a quick iso of Lucky, I don't see anything damning to keep him in the town column and it's been more PoE. I feel very confident about FB being more town now. OGML I waffle, but I am cool with OGML not being the target. Davsto just seems to be on every single wagon it seems.
I won't mind Not_Mafia being lynched, but I do think that dav/lucky seem to be a good choice for today based on lane's lynch - especially since both seem to be devoid of original content for the most part.
Sup, later.
Lucky2u - 4 - Salamence20, Davsto, Not_Mafia, OhGodMyLife
