Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)


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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:04 pm

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Hi!

I'm still a little confused by the setup but I think stepping away and thinking about it might let it set in.

But, farside do you mean there's an evil and town horoscope role pm and you got the evil one, and that's why everyone knows scum have a day kill?

Also, I think nacho might be town so I can't vote him but I can fake
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We would only need to wait for the mod if several people chose the same person, otherwise it doesn't matter.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:07 pm

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:09 pm

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@Tammy

hi there, farside is claiming to have gotten the "opposite alignment empowered" and this allows scum to choose a fortunate horoscope and most/all of us have figured that scum would most likely choose the daykill.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:11 pm

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In post 94, Aronis wrote:I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:37 pm

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In post 70, Marquis wrote:maybe i'm just old now but i'm not getting why lane would question a townread on me like that when the reasoning was already there, and then when spelled out for him without further meaningful elaboration, simply say "ok"

i mean i don't really get how lane just dropped it at that. there's so much more that could have been asked or discussed had he actually cared about it besides a one-off "talking" point

I can see lane not picking up what I was initially putting down.

Sure, it could have been talked about further if he was looking to see why I was willing to make that call based on shaky logic, but it seemed more like he was seeking clarification and then found it.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:39 pm

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In post 82, lane0168 wrote:And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.

No benefit to this.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:40 pm

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In post 89, elusive wrote:It makes sense although I would say it would probably be best for town to choose a specific player (the scummiest or lurkiest bastard) and have players target one players and then wait to see if anything happens, then the next player target that scummy lil monkey, etc.

This would be a very solid plan, but unfortunately, takes far too long.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:45 pm

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In post 97, lane0168 wrote:@nacho I read in the old dead thread that Sal asked if he could send it via pm, and he couldn't. Maybe that's what you remember?

Maybe?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:48 pm

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In post 105, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 82, lane0168 wrote:And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.

No benefit to this.


Except now I'm beginning to see that there's huge benefit to not picking the daykill. Don't you agree? If they picked it, we're trading scum 1 for 1 today.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:54 pm

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Nacho>mainez
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start>farside
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kayp>marquis
ricastle>metal
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:30 pm

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In post 82, lane0168 wrote:@ricastle, yeah your second paragraph explains what I was thinking but I'm not going to assume that's the reason for their vote.

And it would be stupid. Unless that's exactly why they didn't choose it. Major wifom I know.

@farside, metal voted because of the response I guess. What did you see wrong with his game plan post?



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Scum would ask if they could use it publically first most likely and if it is public, maybe didn't pick it. So his proposal is no one has it lynch far looks like scum with inside info that wants an easy lynch.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:32 pm

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In post 100, Tammy wrote:Hi!

I'm still a little confused by the setup but I think stepping away and thinking about it might let it set in.

But, farside do you mean there's an evil and town horoscope role pm and you got the evil one, and that's why everyone knows scum have a day kill?

Also, I think nacho might be town so I can't vote him but I can fake
daykill: nachomamma


We would only need to wait for the mod if several people chose the same person, otherwise it doesn't matter.



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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:12 pm

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Explain why scum would pick Commuter, Hider, Vest, Roleblocker or Neighborizer over Dayvig in an all-vanilla game. Also explain how that isn't the obvious conclusion to make.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:20 pm

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In post 112, Ricastle wrote:Explain why scum would pick Commuter, Hider, Vest, Roleblocker or Neighborizer over Dayvig in an all-vanilla game. Also explain how that isn't the obvious conclusion to make.

all-vanilla game? where did that come from?
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:22 pm

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In post 108, lane0168 wrote:Except now I'm beginning to see that there's huge benefit to not picking the daykill. Don't you agree? If they picked it, we're trading scum 1 for 1 today.

If you can be forced to take the shot, maybe not.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:23 pm

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And even then, maybe they did anyways?
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:24 pm

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There's also a pretty distinct possibility that we are running around like chickens with our heads cut off and they haven't even picked yet
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:25 pm

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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:28 pm

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In post 103, Mainez wrote:
In post 94, Aronis wrote:I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.

I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:32 pm

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In post 112, Ricastle wrote:Explain why scum would pick Commuter, Hider, Vest, Roleblocker or Neighborizer over Dayvig in an all-vanilla game. Also explain how that isn't the obvious conclusion to make.



Do you think scum would not discuss or question the choice?
Yes or no?

If the day kill is known why would scum pick it knowing they could be outted?
The other abilities like rb is more powerful.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:35 pm

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I don't think the chances of farside lying are actually that good. She has a trustworthy face.

I also have the beginnings of a town read on Aronis.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:35 pm

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In post 113, Mainez wrote:all-vanilla game? where did that come from?
Just looked back at my PM and it appears I misread. Not used to townie just meaning VT, lol.

In post 116, Nachomamma8 wrote:There's also a pretty distinct possibility that we are running around like chickens with our heads cut off and they haven't even picked yet
Oh...yeah...right. I didn't realise scum didn't have pre-game chat about this.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:36 pm

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In post 118, Aronis wrote:
In post 103, Mainez wrote:
In post 94, Aronis wrote:I really doubt that this is actually going to work. I think the mod would have came up with something to avoid the game being broken like this.

i don't get why you're not willing to go along with this, there's essentially no harm because if you do not have the daykill then all is fine.

I'm doing it, I just think there's a 99% chance it doesn't work. Farside could be lying, I highly doubt they had to pick right away so they could still be discussing it atm, or we could be saying the wrong words.



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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:37 pm

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I didn't realize scum had day talk?
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:37 pm

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And I'm even more of an idiot because the sample PM is on the first page. Dear oh dear...

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