Mini 1671 - Dead Topic

[Regfan]

Okay read up. Sotty defending G_C because of them being masons makes sense. Blah, I'm happy with 2/3.x

[RedCoyote]

pisskop, really? I haven't read the spoiler, but y'all aren't convinced by my case at all, Reg?

I maintain pisskop is scum. I see no way a scumteam could exist without pisskop. I may be wrong about ABR being town... but pisskop has to be scum. I'd stake money on that. There is definitely three scum based on the power so far.

[RedCoyote]

I think ABR is town. Strongly, strongly misguided town, but town nonetheless. Especially after just playing with him as scum. Let me put it this way, if ABR is scum, then meta is dead to me forever. I already dislike it, but it's really, really dead to me going forward if he is scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Argh. Got my shit together too late in the game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So scum team is pisskop/ABR/Juls?

Man, that's pretty sad.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Sorry for my play guys, I tried but nobody was listening.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I've also just read my own ISO and I was pretty bad this game.

Had too many games going on at the same time and that massively effected my ability to play.

I hope town can pull this out the bag but I have my doubts.

[Garmr]

pff town have fucked it up. I was pretty much right if town had followed me day 1 it would of been a easy game.

[RedCoyote]

I knew you were town, BBT. I don't think your play was particularly bad at all.

That lynch was a travesty. Maybe ABR is scum after all. I don't understand his going after you after the dialogue you two had on D2.

I don't know. I kind of wish I hadn't have replaced in. The Jeanne/Equinox slot. I got to be honest, I am not satisfied with that performance at all. Surely E was just too busy to be effective, but I wish she'd have replaced out. The scum gamble to keep that slot alive has so far proven to be an extremely wise decision.

Gamr, you hardly have room to talk about "pretty much having it right" when you quickhammered a VT before he had a chance to claim less than 2 days into D1. That was an incredibly poor decision and it hurt the town significantly.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks, RC. I don't either, his quick hammer of me felt all kinds of wrong.

The IC slot is killing the game, they need to be more active.

I think I need to play more with you RC. You always say what I want to say but you say it clearer than I ever could and I want to learn how to do that. I'm trying to start playing more with some people whose game I respect immensely and you're one of the people on that list (town game at least, don't believe I have seen you as scum) so would like to improve my own game through playing with you.

[Garmr]

Red tbh i pretty much thought the guy would flip town but the environment that was set up made me want to die so i rushed to night phase to do so.

[Garmr]

I know that's not a good excuse but the environment scum was portraying and town was buying into made me feel like shit.

[RedCoyote]

I think I need to play more with you RC. You always say what I want to say but you say it clearer than I ever could and I want to learn how to do that. I'm trying to start playing more with some people whose game I respect immensely and you're one of the people on that list (town game at least, don't believe I have seen you as scum) so would like to improve my own game through playing with you.

I appreciate you saying that, BBT. That's very sweet. <3 I actually don't think I have a particularly strong town game. I actually strongly dislike being town and always prefer being scum. In fact, I only play Mafia for the opportunities to be scum. I wish I could somehow getaway with never being town.

Personally I think you play very well, but I may be bias because I think our town playstyles are very similar. I can tell you some other players to look toward, however. You may know/have played with some of these people already:

DGB - In my opinion, she's the best town player on this website. She's succinct but extremely perceptive as well. If you see an opportunity to play with her, I strongly recommend it.
Nachomamma8 - He has seemingly unlimited stamina for Mafia. He can play in 10 games at a time and be competent in all of them. He's very down-to-earth and can write in a way that relates to most anyone.
Regfan - Extremely thorough and will impress you with how detailed he can get in arguments.
Empire - Fun guy to play with that is straightforward.

Other notable people: shos, StrangerCoug, zoraster, Vi, springlullaby, Sotty7 (I don't think this was her best game, but she's a very solid player), Zachrulez, Incognito, popsofctown, camn, roflcopter, TonyMontana, Rhinox, qwints, LlamaFluff, hiphop, d3x, Hoopla, elvis_knits, hitogoroshi, Cyberbob, Faraday, curiouskarmadog, pablito, AlmasterGM, AurorusVox, Percy, ... there's a ton more that I am leaving off, but if you see any of these players, you should certainly seek them out as they are all very solid players to interact with on this website.

Red tbh i pretty much thought the guy would flip town but the environment that was set up made me want to die so i rushed to night phase to do so.

Whatever. If that's how you approach games, then do me a favor and never sign-up for a game I am in.

You need to learn to be a bigger person and play to your win condition regardless. You are ALWAYS going to have players on your team that may be "weaker" or an "environment" that may be hostile to you. You have to play through it and play to your alignment regardless.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You're doing yourself a disservice then. I have seen you multiple times as town and you were pretty solid every time. FWIW, I also enjoy being scum more

I have played with DGB once I think, I was scum and she lurked pretty hard. Just recently finished a game with Nacho, I was scum and he lurked/wasn't great (though, the whole of town were pretty shit tbf).

Played with Reg twice. Just finished a Team Mafia game with him and we were both scum, he was pretty fucking good. In my first ever game on MS, I fooled Reg (I was scum, he was town). I'm still very proud of this given the respect I know a tonne of people on this site have for Reg's game.

I think, IMO, the top 3 townies I have played with are You, Green Crayons and zMuffinMan. ZMuffinMan is IMO the best scum hunter on his site.

[Garmr]

I think I need to play more with you RC. You always say what I want to say but you say it clearer than I ever could and I want to learn how to do that. I'm trying to start playing more with some people whose game I respect immensely and you're one of the people on that list (town game at least, don't believe I have seen you as scum) so would like to improve my own game through playing with you.

I appreciate you saying that, BBT. That's very sweet. <3 I actually don't think I have a particularly strong town game. I actually strongly dislike being town and always prefer being scum. In fact, I only play Mafia for the opportunities to be scum. I wish I could somehow getaway with never being town.

Personally I think you play very well, but I may be bias because I think our town playstyles are very similar. I can tell you some other players to look toward, however. You may know/have played with some of these people already:

DGB - In my opinion, she's the best town player on this website. She's succinct but extremely perceptive as well. If you see an opportunity to play with her, I strongly recommend it.
Nachomamma8 - He has seemingly unlimited stamina for Mafia. He can play in 10 games at a time and be competent in all of them. He's very down-to-earth and can write in a way that relates to most anyone.
Regfan - Extremely thorough and will impress you with how detailed he can get in arguments.
Empire - Fun guy to play with that is straightforward.

Other notable people: shos, StrangerCoug, zoraster, Vi, springlullaby, Sotty7 (I don't think this was her best game, but she's a very solid player), Zachrulez, Incognito, popsofctown, camn, roflcopter, TonyMontana, Rhinox, qwints, LlamaFluff, hiphop, d3x, Hoopla, elvis_knits, hitogoroshi, Cyberbob, Faraday, curiouskarmadog, pablito, AlmasterGM, AurorusVox, Percy, ... there's a ton more that I am leaving off, but if you see any of these players, you should certainly seek them out as they are all very solid players to interact with on this website.

Red tbh i pretty much thought the guy would flip town but the environment that was set up made me want to die so i rushed to night phase to do so.

Whatever. If that's how you approach games, then do me a favor and never sign-up for a game I am in.

You need to learn to be a bigger person and play to your win condition regardless. You are ALWAYS going to have players on your team that may be "weaker" or an "environment" that may be hostile to you. You have to play through it and play to your alignment regardless.

@bluewaffle
I haven't had played with all those people but i wouldn't place strange cougar on the notable list even through he is a nice guy. But i would place slandaar,thor and ffery there.

Nacho-I kinda have a grudge with nacho were he pretty much cost the game for town by making a mistake and mislynching me in mylo and his been the only player ever to mislynch me there. (only been mislynched twice out of like 20 games and never lynched as scum .) Through i heard his other games were better and that was a lowpoint.

DBG- She's good to play with even when i been right about her scum she managed to convenience other people she wasn't then i got the kill and she won the game. After that game i think i only had were town games and i always been right with the town read (kinda glad lol as i claimed she's the type of player i can read.)

@Redcoyate
I know these things but real life was also impacting on my game and I can't help a off game you can also ask bluewaffle about our last game and how that played out.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Fuckkkkk, why Sotty now?

She did nothing on D3, having both masons alive to claim on D4 would have really opened things up for town.

Ughhhhhh, come on GC!!!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hahahahhahaahahahaha, did pisskop actually just make that slip?

Shame Juls will get the credit if it leads to his lynch.

[Sotty7]

man im so annoyed. i actually had a gambit planned if the scum still didnt get their shit together night kill wise. i dont think i played too great i became super over protective of my mason partner and it colored my reads on both bbt and red. i'll have a few more throughts when not at work

[RedCoyote]

1) Equinox now has the opportunity to turn the tables. If she doesn't, I will be very disappointed. Not shooting her on N2 was a gamble that paid off, I think... but not shooting her on N3 was a bad move. I think this is overreach and could very well blow up in their face.
2) Sotty, I still love you. I didn't realize until very late in D2 that you had other information on sns/GC (the post I changed my vote was when I realized it). I wish you hadn't used it to antagonize me, but you did so-so overall. The game is still winnable. It hurt that we couldn't get that Scarab/pisskop lynch off though. I felt really strong about that and I hated that I couldn't get you/ABR/E to join me on that.
3) I don't care who gets the credit as long as the town gets the win!

[RedCoyote]

You're doing yourself a disservice then. I have seen you multiple times as town and you were pretty solid every time. FWIW, I also enjoy being scum more

I have played with DGB once I think, I was scum and she lurked pretty hard. Just recently finished a game with Nacho, I was scum and he lurked/wasn't great (though, the whole of town were pretty shit tbf).

Played with Reg twice. Just finished a Team Mafia game with him and we were both scum, he was pretty fucking good. In my first ever game on MS, I fooled Reg (I was scum, he was town). I'm still very proud of this given the respect I know a tonne of people on this site have for Reg's game.

I think, IMO, the top 3 townies I have played with are You, Green Crayons and zMuffinMan. ZMuffinMan is IMO the best scum hunter on his site.

Muffin is killer. He's really good. We butt heads a lot, but I very much respect his talent. I haven't played with GC before to my knowledge, however.

I'm very surprised with your interactions with DGB and Nacho though. I find them to both be very strong, but YMMV. If you sign up for any micros/minis, do let me know. I'd be happy to join you. Also if you mod and you want me as a player, I'll be happy to join. Although right this very second is kind of bad as I've told you about in PM because I've got a lot on my plate right now.

[RedCoyote]

Goodness, if E could find a way to dedicate a couple of hours to the game she'd be so on point... I know it.

[Sotty7]

Sotty, I still love you

<3 I love you too! You were one replacement away from being my mason buddy. I might have wept actual tears if that had happened. We would have destroyed. Thankfully the slot now has a decent player in GC in it, but still. What could have been....

Like I said, I let BBT's suspicion of the Clusk slot overly color my read of him. Then Red started pushing towards sns the end of that day and I was stuck in a hard place and I kinda panicked. I also let my paranoia of RedScum over come me. Stupid now I look back, but what can you do. I am trying to shake my rust off I haven't played in so long. Team mafia was my first game back (I was bad) and now this one... I was better here but still not great. Hoping to get back into the groove again.

I'm sorry I just stood back and let you get lynched BBT. I would play with you again in the future for sure.

[Sotty7]

Goodness, if E could find a way to dedicate a couple of hours to the game she'd be so on point... I know it.

I so agree. I was so happy to see her replace in too.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I would play with you again Sotty

Tbh, I was half expecting you to hammer me given you were scum reading me in the last interaction we had.

That hammer from ABR was lolbad though and nobody is saying anything about it...

[Garmr]

Abr has been mislynched for stuff like that so many times people accept it as town. He has shown that he can think really well through so it kinda works out for him.