Open 577: Hope Plus One! (GAME OVER - SCUM WIN)

GGG · Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:59 am

Also Matts push on idiot king for a lie that didn't really exist

Cane + Able · Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:00 am

In post 2598, GGG wrote:
In post 2597, Cane + Able wrote:
In post 2594, GGG wrote:I believe Mastin to be scum. MathDinos slot was scummy.

He essentially ignored the entire Arcy/Copper day.
Buddied TTH throughout.
Blew up over my terrible 1 on each wagon case day 2 (scum caught for wrong reason)

We have DGB, TexCat, Mastin, Me, House.

Would house or texcat get in early on the copper train for town cred to let us lynch Arcy. I don't think so but given copper counter claim was pretty ballsy I don't want to rule out tex and House by default.

Want to give us a case on Math?

Like a fully quoted up case. Maybe I will have time for a small one tonight. The gist is above.

After I found out he site flaked, I wrote off what he did during the copper fakeclaim fiasco because there's no telling what he was dealing with that may have affected his play.

He was pretty townish up until that point, which unnerved me to no end because I wanted to read him as scum bad but couldn't support it with anything.

The whole "1 scum on each wagon" bs, I didn't buy either.

Nah, I'm happy with my reads unless someone can tell me why MathDino was scum prior to the whole copper fakeclaim incident. You and DGB are both far scummier in comparison.

Cane + Able · Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:00 am

In post 2600, GGG wrote:Also Matts push on idiot king for a lie that didn't really exist

Care to clarify?

GGG · Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:06 am

In post 2450, DrippingGoofball wrote:WOW

C&A is scum.

In post 2451, DrippingGoofball wrote:Because there is no way in hell that copper is scum. Voting copper is a scum confession.

In post 2455, DrippingGoofball wrote:That player slot is total scum is cutting its losses.

In post 2457, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2452, Cane + Able wrote:You're on crack.

Hey that's my line

You're still scum

In post 2459, DrippingGoofball wrote:Why wait? You have plenty of time. Give your perspective and we can lynch you right away.

In post 2461, DrippingGoofball wrote:We might just have to forgo your scum insight, then.

Here is the DGB house interaction.

If copper was willing to claim they were playing pretty aggressive scum. In that case I think it's more likely to put a vote on each wagon. Now house votes early meaning time will show us that at least one of them is scum.

GGG · Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:08 am

In post 2602, Cane + Able wrote:
In post 2600, GGG wrote:Also Matts push on idiot king for a lie that didn't really exist

Care to clarify?

Idiot king stated that he didn't know what intent to hammer meant and MD pushed that as a lie and a reason to lynch him independant of how he got on to my wagon.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:08 am

In post 2589, mastin2 wrote:Definitely see Cane/Able as town, and definitely thinking DGB's scum. Soyeah, textcat, you're gonna need to show me GGG.

Mastin, are you town?

Because:

VOTE: Cane + Able

You should, too.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:13 am

I was very vocal in lynching acryon. It was the logical choice. Wrong as it turns out, but logical.

This Can+Able attack comes from scum. I can just read the scum PT in my mind "LOL DGB is dead, she'll be so easy to lynch, let's go after her really strong the moment the game opens!"

I can't imagine mastintown going along with this.

GGG · Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:24 am

vote:dgb

Cane + Able · Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:14 am

UNVOTE:

Whoa... 2 votes on this early in MyLo is reckless.

Cane + Able · Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:26 am

So like... either GGG is scum and I'm dead wrong about DGB, or GGG is town and derped pretty hard, risking giving scum an easy win.

Because no way would scum!GGG vote scum!DGB as second vote on the wagon in MyLo.

Cane + Able · Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:41 am

I want to see texcat's and mastin's take on DGB before I'll be comfortable with a lynch.

Too much on the line to risk a quicklynch at this point.

On a random note: I'm tired as hell, pulled another all nighter last night. See you folks this evening.

GGG · Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:46 am

In post 2608, Cane + Able wrote:UNVOTE:

Whoa... 2 votes on this early in MyLo is reckless.

Funny house, one is just as wreck less. You just voted your scum buddy and got caught.

GGG · Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:47 am

You can't say that 1 vote is safe when scum will have agreed upon a quick hammer time last night in the Scum pt.

texcat · Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:51 am

In post 2594, GGG wrote:I believe Mastin to be scum. MathDinos slot was scummy.

He essentially ignored the entire Arcy/Copper day.
Buddied TTH throughout.
Blew up over my terrible 1 on each wagon case day 2 (scum caught for wrong reason)

We have DGB, TexCat, Mastin, Me, House.

Would house or texcat get in early on the copper train for town cred to let us lynch Arcy. I don't think so but given copper counter claim was pretty ballsy I don't want to rule out tex and House by default.

In post 2599, GGG wrote:What else other than tunnelling Arcy yesterday makes DGB scummy

In post 2607, GGG wrote:
vote:dgb

That was a pretty quick flip-flop.

GGG · Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:30 am

Sure was but with a dgb/house cross vote occurring at least one of them is scum or the town has lost. So it becomes just picking between them.

texcat · Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:39 am

Hmmm and I'm looking at Mastin, C+A, and GGG all scum reading DGB. And I know that at least one of those 3 has to be scum.

theelkspeaks · Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:29 am

Vote Count 5.1
With 5 Alive, it is 3 to lynch.

Cane + Able (1)

- Dripping Goofball

Dripping Goofball(1)

- GGG

Not Voting (3)

- texcat, Cane + Able, mastin2

Cane + Able · Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:15 pm

In post 2615, texcat wrote:Hmmm and I'm looking at Mastin, C+A, and GGG all scum reading DGB. And I know that at least one of those 3 has to be scum.

You're right, and it's GGG.

I've been telling everybody why the entire game.

Cane + Able · Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:18 pm

In post 2612, GGG wrote:You can't say that 1 vote is safe when scum will have agreed upon a quick hammer time last night in the Scum pt.

1 vote is safe when it's on scum. 2 within hours of the thread reopening is foolish regardless of who it's on.

Even with lynching scum, it still shuts down communication, which we need in order to find the remaning scum. Which you would not want to do unless you are scum.

Cane + Able · Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:34 pm

In post 2606, DrippingGoofball wrote:I was very vocal in lynching acryon. It was the logical choice. Wrong as it turns out, but logical.

Right. Way to defend yourself and simultaneously cast aspersions on those who wanted to keep the doc alive.

In post 2606, DrippingGoofball wrote:
This Can+Able attack comes from scum. I can just read the scum PT in my mind "LOL DGB is dead, she'll be so easy to lynch, let's go after her really strong the moment the game opens!"

You're just as right about me as you were about acryon. I always go full bore after scum that works as hard as you did to sell a wagon on a PR that was showing signs of losing steam prior to their vote.

In post 2606, DrippingGoofball wrote:
I can't imagine mastintown going along with this.

Any thoughts on GGG putting you at L-1 after this post? Or do you not want to indict your buddy any worse than he already is?

Cane + Able · Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:38 pm

In post 2455, DrippingGoofball wrote:That player slot is total scum is cutting its losses.

You read me as scum cutting my losses & sailing acryon down the river at the beginning of the day.

But when I turned out to be right, and you wrong... you still read me as scum because... why?

I'm guessing it's because you've gotten invested in selling me as scum and forgot the basis for your supposed "read".

texcat · Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:29 pm

In post 2617, Cane + Able wrote:
In post 2615, texcat wrote:Hmmm and I'm looking at Mastin, C+A, and GGG all scum reading DGB. And I know that at least one of those 3 has to be scum.

You're right, and it's GGG.

I've been telling everybody why the entire game.

In post 2609, Cane + Able wrote:So like... either GGG is scum and I'm dead wrong about DGB, or GGG is town and derped pretty hard, risking giving scum an easy win.

Because no way would scum!GGG vote scum!DGB as second vote on the wagon in MyLo.

Are you now thinking GGG and DGB are both scum?

Cane + Able · Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:02 pm

In post 2621, texcat wrote:
In post 2617, Cane + Able wrote:
In post 2615, texcat wrote:Hmmm and I'm looking at Mastin, C+A, and GGG all scum reading DGB. And I know that at least one of those 3 has to be scum.

You're right, and it's GGG.

I've been telling everybody why the entire game.

In post 2609, Cane + Able wrote:So like... either GGG is scum and I'm dead wrong about DGB, or GGG is town and derped pretty hard, risking giving scum an easy win.

Because no way would scum!GGG vote scum!DGB as second vote on the wagon in MyLo.

Are you now thinking GGG and DGB are both scum?

GGG for sure.

DGB, I kinda am/was due to yesterDay's shenanigans... but maybe she really is just that bad?

I can't picture them being scum together unless GGG knew I'd get paranoid and unvote.

I'm kinda conflicted on DGB due to GGG WIFOMing me, but I'm certain on GGG.

mastin2 · Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:48 pm

In post 2592, Cane + Able wrote:You know I'm not a fan of unexplained/unexplainable reads for either alignment.

You know, generally, when there's a read I've got, I can struggle to form reasoning because the reasoning is quantifiable. But obvtown is...well,

obvtown

. I'm really not sure how I can describe being obvtown. It's just...you know, THERE. How can you

not

see you're obvtown?

In post 2594, GGG wrote:I believe Mastin to be scum. MathDinos slot was scummy.
He essentially ignored the entire Arcy/Copper day. Buddied TTH throughout. Blew up over my terrible 1 on each wagon case day 2 (scum caught for wrong reason)

We have DGB, TexCat, Mastin, Me, House.
Would house or texcat get in early on the copper train for town cred to let us lynch Arcy. I don't think so but given copper counter claim was pretty ballsy I don't want to rule out tex and House by default.

Scratch what I said about textcat being scum.

It's GGG.

mastin2 · Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:51 pm

In post 2599, GGG wrote:What else other than tunnelling Arcy yesterday makes DGB scummy

General posting, positioning on the wagon from what little I saw, but admittedly mainly gut.
...Plus the way you're interacting with her. And Cane/Able being obvtown meaning that there's 2 scum in 3 players meaning only one town slot. And texty-you doesn't seem to mesh nearly as well as DGB-you, though admittedly DGB-textcat is possible. In either case, though, DGB is still scum.