All right, finally have some time to go through this game again and get a lil more engaged.
Kind of suspicious of 2birds, on re-reading. I brought this up when it happened, too, but this post still really rubs me the wrong way:
In post 42, 2birds1stone wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Astinus
Scum? Probably not, but it's as good a place to start as any.
When I asked him about it, 2birds gave a fairly detailed description of why he thought Astinus was town, and basically described his vote as a policy lynch. To me, that looks like distancing himself from a wagon he wasn't sure about.
2birds also threw some shade at Mathdino for his early unvote on the Astinus wagon (unless I'm mistaken, I think that got to L-2 or possibly L-1 on page 3 or so), and one post in particular towards him really pings my scumdar:
In post 106, 2birds1stone wrote: In post 104, Mathdino wrote:Lynching Astinus right now, even if she's confirmed scum, helps no one but the other scumteam.
I'm not sure I like your certainty in the face of this level of craziness. Any claim that amounts to "I'm not town" obviously needs to be lynched, but I have no idea how anyone can be as confident as you are.
This is such a wishy-washy post. "I don't like your confidence in Astinus's alignment, but we should definitely lynch Astinus, who I didn't think was scum last page, but also I don't like your confidence."
In the same post, 2birds re-voted for Astinus, and said that he didn't find any other people unvoting Astinus suspicious.
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Hey, guille, you mentioned early-ish during the Astinus fiasco that you felt she wasn't scum:
In post 76, guille2015 wrote:There are things here that makes me doubt that she is scum however. But I don't see town in her either, unlike what Mastin sees.
But you never explained why. Care to give some details now?
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Forgive me if this has been brought up already, but what I think is most suspicious about dragonspawn is that he seems to be echoing people a lot. There was echoing of previous sentiments about Astinus when he was voting her, echoing previous sentiments about Mastin's posts when he voted her.
Also, I forget if I mentioned it already, but this post is just terrible:
In post 109, dragonspawn wrote:I am inclined to agree that we don't benefit from a quick lynch. Let's keep the discussion going and get catch some scum for a good lynch day two. Especially if astinus somehow turns out to be town. The more discussion we keep going the more likely we will be to find the scum.
"Let's keep discussion going. Just in case I'm wrong about this wagon I'm sitting on while not discussing anything else."
What I'm most interested in, though, is dragonspawn's early townread of 2birds.
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Clusk has been pretty quiet, and didn't say much D1 that didn't concern Astinus.
Clusk, you mentioned when you voted Astinus that you didn't buy the "too scummy to be scum" argument that a few people (2birds in particular) were putting out there. Now that Astinus has turned out town after all, how do you feel about 2birds?
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I'm still suspicious of dragonspawn's play, but I'm much more suspicious of 2birds.
VOTE: 2birds1stone
Still need to catch up on the last two pages or so, but from what I can see Nova's still lurking hard, which is not great.
Oh, and side note, because it was brought up:
It doesn't matter to me, you can use whatever pronouns you want
and i kind of like confusing people anyway