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Wasn't aware that was an issue, but okay.

Will be vla for a day becuase i'm going to a place with no net . Postive news got smash bros.

Prod dodge. Busy weekend, but not fully V/LA.

Crap. I'll try to catch up tonight.

My other game is complete shit right now so I'm a little frustrated with mafia atm.

In post 889, Thor665 wrote:Yes, my point was to indicate how bad I thought your concept was.

Basically you're saying 'well, it's scummy...but only if he does it more than once'
A scumtell is either a scumtell or it is not - it doesn't require multiple executions to make it scummy.

And if your statement is, that on Day 1, you need multiple scumtells to make a case - I am fascinated to see what case you manage.

Basically no, I at no time (intentionally) said he had to do the same scum tell more than once which is what your post seems to imply. That would indeed be silly.
extreme example: A player only has to derp hammer once for me to pretty much policy lynch it... perhaps lynch it more than once for the one tell.

If at the end of the day which is a long long way away, if the best case is based on single scum tell, I will vote it or hammer it in a heart beat.
If the best case is based on nothing at all.... I will make something up and take out the trash: AKA Anyone I don't think scum will kill and Id prefer not to have represent me at lylo.

Oh yes a scumtell is scumtell, and no he doesn't have to do it (or each one) more than once.

However the conditional probability of PerV being scum based on just that one tell was for me not sufficiently high to just pile on.
I even have one other point, at which I thought Huh? and while its probably weaker than yours it may be for me minor feel tell, but I will have to read some PereV games to see if it just his manner/style/personality.

@Thor
On that subject, in order to eventually vote PereV, which is what you want, I will have to read some of his previous games.
A game Id particularly like to read is large game, in which you both played, and you were town... don't care what he was.
I want to see how PereV goes about scum hunting Thor, when Thor is town.
Do you recall such game?

In post 893, goodmorning wrote:trading vanity for vanity

Vote: Thor

maybe i'm crazy

gm pls

Idk I like gm's vote somehow

Am I missing something here?

I don't think so.

Okay, why are we scumreading Thor then?

The Pere case actually makes sense and I haven't seen anything to doubt him. I have a decent record of reading Thor, too.

I just don't necessarily townread him and like this sentiment being present in others too. I have a feeling he is willfully clogging up the thread with all his nitpickyness, but that might also be a playstyle thing.

In post 905, T S O wrote:

In post 893, goodmorning wrote:trading vanity for vanity

Vote: Thor

maybe i'm crazy

gm pls

i don't want to vote anen todayyyy

i'm not convinced he's scum

could just be newer player weirdness

In post 906, TierShift wrote:Idk I like gm's vote somehow

ME TOO OMG

In post 904, AxleGreaser wrote:Oh yes a scumtell is scumtell, and no he doesn't have to do it (or each one) more than once.

However the conditional probability of PerV being scum based on just that one tell was for me not sufficiently high to just pile on.

In post 904, AxleGreaser wrote:@Thor
On that subject, in order to eventually vote PereV, which is what you want, I will have to read some of his previous games.
A game Id particularly like to read is large game, in which you both played, and you were town... don't care what he was.
I want to see how PereV goes about scum hunting Thor, when Thor is town.
Do you recall such game?

No.
There might be an [ongoing] but who can say?

Let's see what ISO brings me.
OZ Mafia was a weird setup.
Walking Dead I was scum.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=28253
Here's one - though there wasn't a lot of time for interaction, and there was no interaction really.
Lord Patator had me as town - but was a feth terrible setup.
Mainstream I was Cult Leader
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=23662
We were both town there - not a lot of interaction.

This bores me and is becoming more difficult at this point. There's some stuff.

In post 911, TierShift wrote:I just don't necessarily townread him and like this sentiment being present in others too. I have a feeling he is willfully clogging up the thread with all his nitpickyness, but that might also be a playstyle thing.

Since people constantly whine about this all he time - it's a playstyle thing.
Also, the only scum strategy I have on the record that remotely resembles it is - getting town to use 'all the time' which I think is brilliant scum play. There is no reference to me anywhere suggesting a scum strategy of 'debate things! Yar har!'
My post average is 3 posts per page, and that's being aware that I sometimes post a few times in a row.
Yeah, I'm more talkative then a semi active player - but I'm not drowning anything and am talking on point.
Stop being a girl-child about it.

I should probably link Patator anyway.
But the setup did suck.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28450

In post 912, goodmorning wrote:i don't want to vote anen todayyyy

i'm not convinced he's scum

could just be newer player weirdness

gm have you played/read a game with town Anen? This game seems like he's trying to mimic his usual play but he makes more sense normally imo

Whoever asked for my read on PerV, pretty much null.

In post 917, hephaestus wrote:Whoever asked for my read on PerV, pretty much null.

At least three people who read his situation with me have come back with scummy - and multiple others are at least voting him.
Why is your read null?

In post 893, goodmorning wrote:trading vanity for vanity

Vote: Thor

maybe i'm crazy

In post 896, goodmorning wrote:like, i'm not exactly convinced pere's not scum but i find you quite a lot more so

Hi

I would like you to explain this vote. "Gut" or "I don't know" is not a sufficient explanation for a 35+ page read.

@TSO. From now on, I'm ignoring your posts about calling me scum. You call me scum regardless of my posts and I still remember that you've been doing this since I called you scum for the first time.

@Tiershift. Please, be more sensible than TSO. I'm quoting my post I made between the two parts of my catchups:

@Goodmorning. Can you explain your vote? It doesn't make sense for me.

@Hephaestus. How is it possible that you've got a NULL on PeregrineV? Even an Unsure/Unsorted would be strange but how can someone with that amount of content null?

Omitting full arguments for reads is not being concise, it's being incomplete.

Where do you think I omitted full arguments? (Everywhere is not an answer. Whenever I post walls players call my gameplay bad and they don't read my posts at all.)

Your answer to 'your reads are shitty' is: 'I'm cutting down on walls'. So reducing posting length makes your reads shittier. And if you remove only non-vital information, they don't get shittier. Which is why I think you removed vital information.

Walls with zillions of post-links haven't been popular either. And I hate long-long-long quote-walls. Besides, there are players here who haven't been doing anything useful and you call a readlist which was a result of ISO-ing everyone? Hmmm...
I'm telling for the last time: ask a question (eg. why do you have a xxx-read on yyy?) and I'll answer. If not, I'll finish this conversation because we're getting nowhere.