Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:49 am
In post 2619, Boonskiies wrote:Thor's town. And it's multiball...
Thor's not Town, and the second kill could have come from an SK or a Vig rather than a 2nd scumteam.
In post 2626, Boonskiies wrote:During the night Iz brought up how there is 'probably' a fourth neighborhood. He also said he is new to neighborhoods and doesn't know the ideal play in these situations. Those two don't match up. Why would you think there is probably a fourth neighborhood if you are new to them unless one of your scum partners are in it, and they told you during the night?
He literally said that the word "corner" implied that there were four.
Now, I don't know why he assumes rooms are square/rectangular, but - oh wait. Rooms ARE usually square/rectangular.
Do you not pay attention to the words people say???
In post 2630, Izariael wrote:In post 2618, goodmorning wrote:
I personally think that plan was a bit of aterribleidea, but I would like to hear from you on the subject of the thing I brought up, if you don't mind.
I'm glad you brought it up, as I was planning to do so anyway. I never got a chance to touch on it before the thread lock because of Halloween stuff. That means that everyone here who isn't in our hood gets a really vague post (which you can hopefully follow soundly):
yesssss i love vague references that confuse other people
I will admit, your final post of the night left me a bit confused, as I didn't understand what was tipping you off in such a manner. Anen's post that followed it was able to shed light on it for me though, and I will say I have to agree. It looks that way because I was not properly applying my own stance to thescenario. I've been basing most of my thoughts around NOT assuming it's guaranteed. But then suddenly my comment looked as though I said WAS guaranteed. It was a disconnect of logic that unfortunately pervades pretty much everything I said about the topic last nightfullandon Day 1. To clarify, my stance is the former - NOT guaranteed. That is how I will be operating and you, Boonskiies and Shiro can hold me to that.
That's not really what I meant. I meant that you seemed to have knowledge of the composition, if you catch my drift?
You're welcome to follow through with theterribleplan, and heck, I would probably endorse it after seeing the angle you are approaching it from.
No, it genuinely wasn't that great of a plan. I like where I'm at right now.
Also, I appreciate your vagueness on the matter, especially given how Boonskiies is launching out of the Day 2 gate...
That's actually giving me a lot of pause on him.
In post 2635, Izariael wrote:I think goodmorning and I are on the same page of wanting to keep the details of our discussion within the neighborhood.
This is so, for the present. Certain details may make it necessary to more openly discuss at some point but if we can veil it for now then that's for the better.
In post 2636, beastcharizard wrote:Who is sheepable?
There really isn't anyone sheepable this game, though you're welcome to sheep me as I slowly begin to substantiate my Thor vote.
In post 2642, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 2634, Boonskiies wrote:Axle's voting me even though I've made it pretty obvious that I'm a PR. Interesting. I'll hop on a wagon that starts on Axle if no one sees Iz as scum. @Flubb - Thank you. You also just got finished with my last scum game, and will be able to tell if I'm scum or not pretty easily probably.
Yeah this claim is a carbon copy of your tracker fakeclaim.
This is interesting. Can you quote that here?
In post 2645, Flubbernugget wrote:Iz how come you don't have a read on boons?
Why ask Izariael and not me?
In post 2655, TierShift wrote:I'm yet to form an opinion on boon's push on iz and his reaction to it. It all reads a bit vague to me. Is there any reason the plan boon was talking about cannot be fully disclosed?
I'd like everyone to weigh in first but since I don't plan to do that plan I don't see any reason why it shouldn't.
I've always seen being bullheaded as a town characteristic until recently a scum player used that to completely catch me off-guard. (GM knows!) It's an easy way to not contribute and I'll meta now.
I literally do not know anything about Tier anymore.
In post 2660, Shiro wrote:I dunno I think I am way too noob for those big game.
Ahahahaha, me too.
Well with that said I can reveal Anen's plan:
Everyone was to put the word terrible in their first post if they agreed with the plan. We were then all going to vote Izariael because Neighbourhood stuff. It wasn't that well thought out, I don't think.
In post 2669, Scripten wrote:In post 2666, Garmr wrote:
So you did a short meta on me. Can you point out the games you read and how far you actually read into them?
Not on you, but on Axle. What I saw from other town games of his looked consistent with his game here. Meta isn't perfect, but it was enough to figure out which to vote.
In post 2667, Garmr wrote:Also you said he might be town how is that not a town read? Sounds like a null-town read to me.
I don't equate a null-town read as a town read. I felt that you two are most likely not aligned with one another and that you were the more likely scum.
Scripten could pretty easily be Scum this game, I think.
In post 2681, T S O wrote:It still hasn't really sunk in for me that Aneninen flipped town.
I have no idea where to go from here.
You could vote Thor with me. Or, and this is even better, you could do a couple ISOs and go from there.
In post 2696, Thor665 wrote:Shiro is scum due to gut and wagon placement.
eyyyyyyyyyyyyyy welcome to the weak case club
i'm goodmorning and i founded this shit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
interestinggggggg
In post 2719, Shiro wrote:Yea but like what happens when Shiro flips town?
Probably the same as happened when Pere flipped Town: no-one cares.
In post 2741, Flubbernugget wrote:If gm is here some commentary after Shiro's would probably help sort this out too.
tbh it's not great. If the stuff earlier in this post doesn't clarify what you wanted then ask me again.
In post 2752, Boonskiies wrote:Good morning thinks you scum slipped also. Your speculation wasn't genuine.
I am trying to have a conversation on the subject. You are flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
In post 2754, AxleGreaser wrote:In post 2752, Boonskiies wrote:Good morning thinks you scum slipped also. Your speculation wasn't genuine.
and goodmornings opinion is important to you because since post 2622 becuase you now read Gm as town for what reason?
OH SHIT
SOME SHIT IS GOING DOWN NOW
In post 2768, T S O wrote:How conclusive -is- the slip?
Not very, or I wouldn't have asked to discuss it.
In post 2769, Izariael wrote:I've been touting that we shouldn't assume scum will be in each hood, which is the stance I believe in. However, the stance that scum would know who was in each neighborhood on Night 1 made an assumption: there was scum in every hood to know of its existence. The two don't line up, and there was a distinct disconnect in reasoning that permeated the entirety of my actions and statements on the matter, both in Day 1 and during Night 1. goodmorning commented that it looked like a scumslip, which I hadn't even understoodwhyuntil Aneninen spoke up just before the start of Day 2. I never had a chance to continue the discussion in neighborhood thread before Day 2 started, otherwise I think this would likely not have come up, or at least not be monopolizing as much of the Day 2 play as it is.
This, basically.
Iz said that the scum would know (not could know, which would be different) based on N1 conversation the contents of each Neighbourhood, which assumes Scum in each Neighbourhood.
In post 2777, Slandaar wrote:Move along people, nothing to see here, it's not a scumslip.
Goodmorning, I hear you are the instigator of this accusation, please, step into my office for a minute
I'm not going to dignify this with a response, except to say that I'm not going to dignify it with a response.
Maybe we can lynch Slandaar today. He clearly isn't interested in actually being helpful.