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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:48 am
by Thor665
In post 2350, Aegor wrote:[6]PeregrineV: Egg, Thor665, Scripten, The Fonz, AxleGreaser, davesaz
[5]Aneninen: Shiro*, TierShift, Garmr, T S O, PeregrineV
[4]Thor665: goodmorning, Nero Cain, flubbernugget, Izariael
[1]goodmorning: Slandaar
[1]T S O: Muffin
[1]Shiro: Grayfoxxxx
[3] Not Voting: beastcharizard, Aneninen, Boonskiies
And look at this awesome!
I don't think I've even seen any of the people voting me except for GM in days (though Nero had a hyper fail prod dodge in there I recall)
That is our 3rd biggest wagon - the wagon led by the 'tone' case and three lurksacks.
THIRD BIGGEST!
Axle *just voted* GM.
What an amazing wagon of 2!
That is going to ADD PRESSURE TO HER!
Beast is new...so...meh.
Boonie sucks though, that lurksack has been around enough he should have a vote in play whilst prod dodging.
Is Gray even still in the game?
The Anen wagon exists...formed of a coalition of people who...I think are lynching him for not being Pere.
Also Pere.
Though Anen hasn't even managed the survival vote yet, so I'm not sure who is worse.
Ooooh, actually Axle was *on* the Pere wagon - it's now one more vote away from lynch.
Apparently Slandaar "winning" the argument with me equates to Pere not even being scummy anymore - sheep Slandaar's one vote vanity wagon at 24 hours till deadline, L-10 FTW!
That said I think it's still L-6 because someone else got on...was it Boony? I forget.
What an awesome spread here.
?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:10 am
by AxleGreaser
In post 2448, Thor665 wrote:
I mean, look at this.
I think Pere is currently still L-5 (I haven't re-checked)
He is the biggest wagon with the next being L-7.
We basically have 24 hours.
All of you suck.
yep +1
10/10 of us would suck again.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:37 am
by Garmr
Pff and like pere wagon is any good becuase of a empty sheep vote he posted when he first started which half your fucking wagon has done and your bull shit multiscum theory shit which if you take a step back is pathetic and shit. Funny how thor townreads everyone on the pere wagon.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:42 am
by Thor665
Seriously?
If you don't think I have a point - do something about it to prove me wrong.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:43 am
by AxleGreaser
In post 2447, Thor665 wrote:Also I don't care, really - since I'm about the only player who tried during Day 1...shock of shocks
(taking about to mean actually no one...)
nope i tried too but I have poor logic,
so while there was only do or not do,
I apparently not did. (My wagon got to L-10 )
So how about we stop the wallow and respond to my fairly reasonable question.
If I dont buy the Perev is scum because he called you scum for him thinking you had potentially TMI,
why else is he in your opinion scum exactly?
Indeed it was me getting bored, and thinking I am being lazy that made me do ************something************.
Also I thought unvoting would get your attention...
Also Slaandar was winning, he needed something for it, as you will never give an inch.
In post 2450, Thor665 wrote:
Ooooh, actually Axle was *on* the Pere wagon - it's now one more vote away from lynch.
Apparently Slandaar "winning" the argument with me equates to Pere not even being scummy anymore -
Well as Slaandar winning would mean a central plank of your case fell down ... then maybe yes?
Unless as I asked, there are other parts to it, that have details...
or does your entire case depend on knowing that PereV really didn't think that was TMI tell.
because if it does, the GoodMorning or my TSO case looks better to me.
On the topic of having a whinge.
Well lets see, your wagon is not at majority and thats everyone elses fault?
What is everyone elses fault is failing to push a wagon of their own...
Lets take TSO who not only wont push the wagon he wants lynched he wont even answer frickin questions about it (Now Garmr is following suit?)
he(TSO) wont answer the questions from someone he(TSO) scum reads... because they(Axle) might misrepresent him (thereby looking making TSO scum read look scummier)
and for this he gets widespread reasonless townreads and nary a vote.
So yep actively avoiding doing anything at all is super totally endorsed by this town...
Is it plausible this game has 4-5 3rd party survivor roles?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:45 am
by AxleGreaser
@Garmr
In post 2453, Thor665 wrote:
Seriously?
If you don't think I have a point - do something about it to prove me wrong.
or prove your wagon right?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:46 am
by Garmr
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:58 am
by AxleGreaser
In post 2453, Thor665 wrote:
Seriously?
If you don't think I have a point - do something about it to prove me wrong.
Well flipping PereV could prove you wrong.
Talking about your wagon only having townies on it.
Thor if you really town read your wagon as only having townies on it.
How come?
(note I personally 9.9 times out of 10) hate "this wagon went too easy it must be on town", or "this wagon met resistance it must be scum"
I find wagons usually acquire some scum even if they are on scum.
Is a plausible explanation that they all dont really want to be associated with a town PereV lynch?
or they all set their course at somewhere else before they realised it might be driven through.
Do you actually town read GoodMorning's vanity push on you?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:03 am
by Garmr
I think my wagon is right I have brought up my views on it in my last response to you or did you miss it?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:09 am
by Slandaar
Perhaps there should be a larger wagon at this point in an ideal world Thor but that is in large part your fault for pushing the PV wagon this much when it just is plain bad.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:16 am
by AxleGreaser
In post 2458, Garmr wrote:
I think my wagon is right I have brought up my views on it in my last response to you or did you miss it?
Nope but you, decided to follow in TSO footsteps.
You claimed
In post 2441, Garmr wrote:axle this is the last time I'm going to talk about that initial conversation with anne
So I am being very careful about how and when i respond to that as you have already paved the way to posting
la la la I cant hear you...
because yes i have serious problems with your read.
I not only don't want to vote it, I am also considering how scummy I think it makes you.
but as i only get one shot.. before you stop posting responsively and all of town endorses that as how to play mafia...
but yeah lets examine your 'case'.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:22 am
by Thor665
In post 2454, AxleGreaser wrote:So how about we stop the wallow and respond to my fairly reasonable question.
If I dont buy the Perev is scum because he called you scum for him thinking you had potentially TMI,
why else is he in your opinion scum exactly?
His weak play, which I have already described.
What the hell?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:24 am
by Shiro
Thor can I ask you something ? I think I understand your reason behind Pere wagoon but why wouldnt scum pere back off when he had the chance ? I mean he had a few chances biggest being the one where it was pointed that there was a misundersating with what multball meant. Why wouldn't he step away and spare himself all this trouble ? He was clearly losing the argument anyway.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:27 am
by Garmr
In post 2454, AxleGreaser wrote:Lets take TSO who not only wont push the wagon he wants lynched he wont even answer frickin questions about it (Now Garmr is following suit?)
No fuck off I have explained my reasoning you just fucking ignored it this is why everyone in this game has a hands off approach when it comes to you because they don't want to deal with you because your a headache for all the wrong reasons I mean you missed some obvious hints
In post 2163, Muffin wrote:Fully 80% of posts by AxleGreaser are just straight-up illegible. Please be town, and get NKed so I don't have to wade through them any more.
In post 1997, goodmorning wrote:If it makes anyone feel better,
I stopped reading Anen's and Axle's posts a long time ago. Skim over them
but if I'm not mentioned nothing sticks.
In post 1105, Scripten wrote:Axle's posts are really hard to read. Like.... super hard to understand. I don't think this is a scumtell, but it's definitely an annoying trait for any alignment.
You could easily find more examples but you get the point. This is probably coming out a lot worse than I meant it to but I been dealing with a couple of fuck wits who are emotional,messy and irresponsible drunks who vomit everywhere,get into arguments and sit around doing nothing while the responsible ones do fucking housework because the shack is our friends parents place and should be treat with respect.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:32 am
by Thor665
Yes, it is.
Though apparently Slandaar thinks that's my fault...somehow.
The lack of a wagon appearing is the failure of people to push a wagon - there is a reason i push, and, oh, hey, look, my case has the best wagon.
Yet apparently my push is "bad".
So what, lurksacks? Push a "good" one then. Man up and make it happen.
Clearly it can be done with a "bad" wagon - so that blame is on you.
Maybe you should have talked to me more about why your wagon is "good" and got me to come help push it instead of having pedant debates with me about a "bad" wagon.
You win by having a better path - not by dinging at the only path available.
In post 2454, AxleGreaser wrote:Lets take TSO who not only wont push the wagon he wants lynched he wont even answer frickin questions about it (Now Garmr is following suit?)
Yes, I agree, both are playing bad in a sea of bad play.
1. I never said it only had townies on it - in fact I said the opposite.
2. I have town reads of varying strength on most of the core voters of the wagon - that is how come. That is a meaningless question, really. I didn't town read them for voting Pere, I had town reads and then they voted Pere (well...probably a bit of each timewise, but I didn't develop town reads *because* they voted Pere and never claimed as such, and at that point a wide range question like that will never get a good response).
No.
I have repeatedly described her push as terrible and her play lacking and also indicated support of the idea of lynching her.
That said - her wagon is L-10 and the Pere wagon is L-6...or something.
Again - people don't understand how compromise wagons work.
Again - people are *only talking to me* about compromise.
You compromise with the people hanging on the wuss wagons in *opposition* to the strong wagon. You don't try to get the strong wagon to shift whole hog to a weak wagon - that's not how it works.
In post 2459, Slandaar wrote:Perhaps there should be a larger wagon at this point in an ideal world Thor but that is in large part your fault for pushing the PV wagon this much when it just is plain bad.
Oooooh, yeah, because 1 person pushing 1 bad wagon TOTALLY DESTROYS THE ABILITY OF EVERYONE ELSE TO DO ANYTHING WITH "GOOD" WAGONS AND IT CERTAINLY ISN'T BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WITH THE "GOOD" WAGONS FAIL TO KNOW HOW TO PUSH A WAGON.
Mah bad!
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:33 am
by Thor665
In post 2462, Shiro wrote:Thor can I ask you something ? I think I understand your reason behind Pere wagoon but why wouldnt scum pere back off when he had the chance ? I mean he had a few chances biggest being the one where it was pointed that there was a misundersating with what multball meant. Why wouldn't he step away and spare himself all this trouble ? He was clearly losing the argument anyway.
He did step away when he stopped discussing me and voted Scripten.
Then he shifted to Anen.
Both times with, in my opinion, minor to no justification.
He has called me 100% scum.
Just saying.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:36 am
by Thor665
I can't tell whether I am a jerk, people are bad, or I honestly have some sort of strange and magical ability to push wagons.
Like, all the complaints make no sense to me.
Just - push a different wagon if you don't like mine.
Easy.
Even the people complaining about it are posting 90% *about my wagon*
Which is the *opposite* of what you should be doing if you ant to oppose a wagon in any functional way.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:41 am
by Garmr
In post 2466, Thor665 wrote:I can't tell whether
I am stubborn can't admit when I am wrong and believe my way is the only way and look down on everyone else except those who sheep me even if they provide no reason at all
,
Even the people complaining about it are posting 90% *about my wagon*
Which is the *opposite* of what you should be doing if you ant to oppose a wagon in any functional way.
fixed
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:43 am
by Thor665
Not really.
I would be fine with sheep on others, but others can't manage sheep.
I would also be much more fine if there was any L-1 wagon at all, which there is not.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:46 am
by T S O
2450 made me chuckle.
Will switch to Pere if needed.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:59 am
by Aneninen
I wanted to post but my time is up now.
I'm off to demonstrate against the Internet Tax right now and if you lived here you would understand: it's more important than Mafia.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:04 am
by T S O
So, instead of posting a simple vote, you wrote three sentences on why you didn't have time to.
Riiiiight.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:04 am
by Garmr
Just going to say would much rather a axle or davey vote over an But doubt those are happening today.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:05 am
by Garmr
In post 2472, Garmr wrote:Just going to say would much rather a axle or davey vote over
ane.
But doubt those are happening today.
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:07 am
by Thor665
I would support Axle over Anen. I think Anen and Dave are townish.
I only support Axle because I figure white noise removal is okay.