Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:36 am
Okay.
Vote Pere?
Vote Pere?
In post 1072, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1064, Thor665 wrote:And I told you I was buddying you - so you should react to that or not.
vote:Thor
In post 1085, Thor665 wrote:The issue is - you are right, TSO is talking a bit of gak and not backing it up.
However, I would like to point out that is exactly the case on Pere - exactly. Pere said something was scummy, then had to start talking in circles to back it up.
The only big difference is that TSO's thing...yeah, maybe he did decide to just generically fluff off about Anemian in a generic way.
Do you have an explanation for why Pere would do what he did?
Also, considering they are both the same case, and I agree with both of them - why *don't* you like my Pere case exactly?
In post 1103, PeregrineV wrote:In post 1085, Thor665 wrote:The issue is - you are right, TSO is talking a bit of gak and not backing it up.
However, I would like to point out that is exactly the case on Pere - exactly. Pere said something was scummy, then had to start talking in circles to back it up.
The only big difference is that TSO's thing...yeah, maybe he did decide to just generically fluff off about Anemian in a generic way.
Do you have an explanation for why Pere would do what he did?
Also, considering they are both the same case, and I agree with both of them - why *don't* you like my Pere case exactly?
I'll be the first to state I don't really understand your "Pere case".
In post 1093, Egg wrote:Scripten, why do you think knowing neighborhoods will be more useful later than now?
In post 1094, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1094, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1086, AxleGreaser wrote:While you state it is exactly the same, it really isn't from my point of view.
Given the knowledge I had, knowledge = (one bit is i have read my role PM, and another bit is I had very little idea that the game might reasonably likely be multiball.)
When he raised the point that perhaps you had TMI, it looked interesting to me, and I AM town. So its certain for me that it could look interesting to a towny.
My best guess was the odds on Thor making TMI slip like that as scum were so low that the towny explanation was bound to exist and Thor would know what it was whether he was town or scum.
Okay - would you have dodged explaining that if you were him?
If no - then how does this matter?<---what is this point of this question. Rephrase it, because it sounds like you are telling Axel to "let it go".
In post 1094, Thor665 wrote:In post 1086, AxleGreaser wrote:Also at one point, you were adding into your case that PereV didn't jump at the other speakers on Multiball. That was BS kinda in that their comments were very different.
They were very different worse in that they made them out of thin air, but yours was different in the level of certainty expressed. How you seemed to overlook those differences is ? to me.
Feels like stitching up, either via you tunnelling or otherwise.
My "certainty"?
Describe my certainty and how it is scummy, again.
Because what I said is "I find it safe to presume multiball" in answer to someone saying "if it's not multiball this logic makes sense"
We also showed, via research, that over 50% of Larges are multiball.
It also shows that I was using the term multiball to refer to SKs as the point was about scum/scum interaction.
So how is that "certain" in a scummy way?
Because Pere agrees with you - but he can't describe it to anyone.
Maybe you can help him out?
In post 1103, PeregrineV wrote:I'll be the first to state I don't really understand your "Pere case".
In post 1106, PeregrineV wrote:Describe my certainty and how it is scummy, again.
Why do you need this explained again? Every explaination has you trying to twist it in some way.
How about you explain why it's not scummy to say "It's a safe assumption it's multiball." given all of the public knowledge.
In post 1106, PeregrineV wrote:As defined by Thor, not by the wiki.
In post 1106, PeregrineV wrote:Actually, I did, even if poorly. Axle did it better and now youstilldon't understand how your comment can be construed as scummy?
In post 828, goodmorning wrote:Does anyone know whether Thor whinges as much as Town as he does as Scum?
In post 835, Thor665 wrote:I think Pere is scum via play in thread, his lack of presence in the neighborhood means nothing really as he was checked out of the game for days after that anyway.
In post 836, Nero Cain wrote:In post 831, Thor665 wrote:My Neighborhood is me, Pere, and Egg.
Egg gave me slight town vibes already.
Pere didn't post.
Discuss.
What did egg do that gave you town vibes? Is he scrambled or sunny side up?
In post 838, TierShift wrote:In post 831, Thor665 wrote:My Neighborhood is me, Pere, and Egg.
Shit. I found egg slipping knowledge of the neighbourhood in 124, which is why I posted 125. There defnitely hadn't been enough info to conclude you were in a neighbourhood, so I hoped egg wasn't in your neighbourhood and scumslipped.
In post 1108, Egg wrote:Thor, what is so terrible about seeing no real benefit to being a town neighbor? I mean, scum can use a neighborhood to attempt to manipulate their neighbors. I don't really see what town can do with a neighborhood. Why is that so terrible?
In post 1096, Thor665 wrote:
I'm even debating that his case is equivalent to my case on Pere, except mine is better.
In post 421, T S O wrote:In post 418, Aneninen wrote:
TSO. What I don't like is here:
304–306 – it's just a feeling but these seemed to be fake.
381"I don't lurk as scum. Aneninen, Cho, Egg, Thor and Pere have all seen my scumgame when it's working decently. You can ask them."
383"I really don't agree with anything Aneninen is saying right now."– soooo, if I posted I knew how you played as scum would you disagree with me? ^_^
400 – whattafukk was that bullshyt? A quote-wall which contains nothing from or about me and asking Thor about me? How does that make sense? (402 – what kind of explanation was that?"That quote string is me going through the thread convinced I was right - ignore it."– What did you examine?)
That's trash.
#304 - It's your opinion, you might be entitled to it - but it's wrong.
#381 - What possible problem could you have with this? Are you reading what you're posting?
#383 - What the hell is this meant to mean? I have literally no problem with you talking about the scum game of mine you played in. Is this meant to make me look scummy or something?
#400 - Get this, right? You see that quote string?Those were the posts I was looking at!No, really!
In post 1111, Egg wrote:Beginning of post 842.
In post 1094, Thor665 wrote:In post 1086, AxleGreaser wrote:Well I found mine, and I always like wagons that I find more than ones dished up to me.
If I dig around in mine, it is still possible TSO is town, but it will only happen if I dig.
Neither of these are a good reason to not vote Pere - in fact, one is a good reason to vote Pere.
In post 1086, AxleGreaser wrote:While you state it is exactly the same, it really isn't from my point of view.
Given the knowledge I had, knowledge = (one bit is i have read my role PM, and another bit is I had very little idea that the game might reasonably likely be multiball.)
When he raised the point that perhaps you had TMI, it looked interesting to me, and I AM town. So its certain for me that it could look interesting to a towny.
My best guess was the odds on Thor making TMI slip like that as scum were so low that the towny explanation was bound to exist and Thor would know what it was whether he was town or scum.
Okay - would you have dodged explaining that if you were him?
If no - then how does this matter?
In post 1086, AxleGreaser wrote:Also at one point, you were adding into your case that PereV didn't jump at the other speakers on Multiball. That was BS kinda in that their comments were very different.
They were very different worse in that they made them out of thin air, but yours was different in the level of certainty expressed. How you seemed to overlook those differences is ? to me.
Feels like stitching up, either via you tunnelling or otherwise.
My "certainty"?
Describe my certainty and how it is scummy.
In post 261, Thor665 wrote:Well...first off multiball is a pretty safe assumption, and second off being wishy-washy is actually pretty solid scum play.
Because what I said is "I find it safe to presume multiball" in answer to someone saying "if it's not multiball this logic makes sense"
We also showed, via research, that over 50% of Larges are multiball.
It also shows that I was using the term multiball to refer to SKs as the point was about scum/scum interaction.
So how is that "certain" in a scummy way?
Because Pere agrees with you - but he can't describe it to anyone.
Maybe you can help him out?
In post 1086, AxleGreaser wrote:Later 848 you asserted a number of things about his play, I don't find them convincing.
I feel confident I would find more towny intention in PereV's than in TSO's respective ISOs
I would love to see this.
In post 1086, AxleGreaser wrote:Finally one good way to eliminate these distraction/excuse wagons, is to dig around in why people are voting them. Even if PereV is scum, perhaps I found his buddy?
Maybe.
You should vote Pere so we can find out.
In post 1119, The Fonz wrote:At p20. Two things.
Csareo was scumhunting derpily. One of those last two words is alignment relevant.
My predecessor's Nero vote was decent, but I'm going toVote: PeregrineVbecause holy shit was #385 bad.
In post 1120, AxleGreaser wrote:Even if I can find them, unless I decide to bet the game or at least my life on it i wont be defending PereV like that. Also WTF for, if he cant (given his experience) perhaps he doesNOTreally want to be in the game.
Its what I perceive a rather large lack of towny intentioned play in TSOs filter that I was referring too. If I understand TSO correctly, Lately he has indicated he is answering questions without evenreading the posts he is responding too.
In post 1115, T S O wrote:These were Aneninen's reasons for scumreading me. To a point, they are fluffy bullshit which is no way indicative of me-scum.
When I called him out, he literally did nothing relevant to refute anything I said - ergo, he knew it was true.
Why would Town do this?
In post 1115, T S O wrote:When I called him out, he literally did nothing relevant to refute anything I said - ergo, he knew it was true.
Why would Town do this?