Micro 382 - CREDIMVS PAVONI DEORVM (Game Over!)

[TierShift]

Someone tell me if there was anything useful in those walls

[vettrock]

I read it and I'm not sure what to make of it so I threw something in other direction to see what develops,

To see what develops...from an RVS vote...are you serious?

VOTE: vettrock
for unnecessary prolongation of RVS.

The whole purpose of the RVS stage is to throw out votes and see how people react, buddy, defend, sheep, etc.

It seems to me that there was a comment, and then someone's over reaction, and then an overreaction to the overreaction.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The whole purpose of the RVS stage is to throw out votes and see how people react, buddy, defend, sheep, etc.

It seems to me that there was a comment, and then someone's over reaction, and then an overreaction to the overreaction.

That's...nice and vague.

[TierShift]

Town or scum overreaction?

[Scripten]

BBT:

You skipped more than half of my post by calling it "fluff." (That's yet another great diversion tactic.) The reasoning behind my questions was that I was trying to figure out if you actually thought you'd be able to pass off an OMGUS vote later in the game as a legit vote, since you'd made several jokes about OMGUS. If you can't tell how that would help me piece together your alignment, then I don't know what to tell you.

I keep explaining because you

keep not getting it

. Your entire post consists of "This isn't relevant now, because I've explained all this" when my post was written to give context for prior points in the game, namely when the posts you're referring to

didn't exist

. It's like you're intentionally being dense to avoid having to legitimately respond...

Anyway, I'm done with this discussion for now.

Everyone besides BBT & Tiershift:

I'd like to see what the rest of you players think of the current game situation.

Tiershift:

Only thing related to your play so far is here:

So if we were both writing the same thing, at the same time...what does that tell you about the questions you asked?

Gonna have to explain this in more detail, I see. Look, up to the point where Tiershift actually posted, he could have been writing anything. He says he missed your post, but the forums stop you from posting when you get ninja'd and show you the post that ninja'd you. It would take less than a minute to type a one-sentence agreement, so there's absolutely no reason to believe that a post that short would be made without knowledge of you posting. What's even better is that post 24 feels so fake it's not even funny. After saying he missed your answer in that earlier post, despite the fact that the forum will shove it in your face if you get ninja'd, he goes and calls you out as being a ninja in the same post. I seriously did not expect to have to explain this, but here you go. Inconsistency all the way.

Not really anything you really have to respond to if you don't want to. Like I said before, it's minor at the moment, but may eventually become pertinent. I only explained because I was pushed to.

[TierShift]

I think you should let that idea go, scripten.

[TierShift]

Someone tell me if there was anything useful in those walls

I wasted my 3000th post on this, btw :/

[Scripten]

I think you should let that idea go, scripten.

There's literally nothing left for me to say, so I don't really have much of an option. I'm leaning toward this being a conflict between egos, but I also don't want to see this question dodging become a habit. It may have become a mafia pet peeve of mine.

Congrats on the 3000th post, tho.

[Mr_Ree]

You're really pushing this issue. You have to be scum.

Your questions were bad. How are they supposed to help you work out somebody's alignment? They were awful questions designed to look like you were prompting discussion and scum-hunting.

I'm so sure you're gonna flip scum.

Confirmation bias? How is that going to help find scum? You are looking too hard for what isn't there and acting like you actually found something.

[The Bulge]

Votecount 1.2

BlueBloodedToffee (2) -

Wolfy, Scripten

Clusk92 (0) -

Josh_B (0) -

Mr_Ree (0) -

Scripten (1) -

BlueBloodedToffee

ShadedMelee (1) -

vettrock

TierShift (1) -

Mr_Ree

vettrock (1) -

TierShift

Wolfy (0) -

Not Voting -

Clusk92, Josh_B, ShadedMelee

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2014-09-06 14:41:00) (September 6).

Mod Note -

I am at camp for the week and am limited to posting in the evenings and afternoons. Sorry for any inconvenience/overdue votecounts.

[Josh_B]

I was waiting on a game start PM. I feel like an ass for not posting in this game. No prods, so I must be still good to go.

[Josh_B]

VOTE: vettrok

He's scum until he can come up with a good reason why he isn't scum. unless he's scum and if he is, he should admit to it now, because I'm probably going to be all tunnely on this the whole game for reasons I can't talk about.

[Josh_B]

Ok. I'm going to actually read the game up to this point.

[Josh_B]

errgh, My need to play this game interrupts my need for vengeance.

VOTE: scripten

That scummy push was scummy.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I was waiting on a game start PM.

@Mod - It might be worth sending a game start PM to Clusk and Shaded who are yet to post in the game.

[TierShift]

I got gamestart pm tho

errgh, My need to play this game interrupts my need for vengeance.

VOTE: scripten

That scummy push was scummy.

Whayyyy

[The Bulge]

I was waiting on a game start PM.

@Mod - It might be worth sending a game start PM to Clusk and Shaded who are yet to post in the game.

I sent a Game Start PM to the entire playerlist. Clusk and Shaded both picked it up. They will be prodded this afternoon if they still haven't posted.

[Josh_B]

I was waiting on a game start PM.

@Mod - It might be worth sending a game start PM to Clusk and Shaded who are yet to post in the game.

I sent a Game Start PM to the entire playerlist. Clusk and Shaded both picked it up. They will be prodded this afternoon if they still haven't posted.

Hmm. I guess I missed it during the confusion we had.

[Scripten]

I got gamestart pm tho

errgh, My need to play this game interrupts my need for vengeance.

VOTE: scripten

That scummy push was scummy.

Whayyyy

Sheepity sheepsheep.

Josh_B:

Any original opinions? So far you've sheeped two players with your votes. (I think. Your first vote was accompanied by some nonsensical BS, so I don't know if you were trying to follow Tiershift or just have a vendetta(?). Is this more meta?)

At least we've had a few more players posting now. So, let's try this again.

Vettrock:

If you were scum, who would you target for a night kill assuming the day ended right now with a no lynch?

Tiershift:

Using pure randomness during RVS can be considered scum-sided. Do you consider purely random RVS votes to be good content for later cases or is that type of action a null tell for you?

[TierShift]

Josh, I asked why you found the push scummy.

If random votes are random I'm not going to randomly add them into random cases.
No, it's not a scumtell and I don't know what you mean by scumsided.

[Scripten]

I read this a little while ago. I feel like I learned a lot from it. Of course, just like any other bit of theory, it can be manipulated. It should explain what I meant by entirely random RVS votes sometimes being considered scum-sided.

[Josh_B]

I got gamestart pm tho

errgh, My need to play this game interrupts my need for vengeance.

VOTE: scripten

That scummy push was scummy.

Whayyyy

Sheepity sheepsheep.

Josh_B:

Any original opinions? So far you've sheeped two players with your votes. (I think. Your first vote was accompanied by some nonsensical BS, so I don't know if you were trying to follow Tiershift or just have a vendetta(?). Is this more meta?)

I hope it's clear that I have a vendetta, because I said it. Did tiershift say the same thing I did? What makes you think that tiershift has a vendetta?

Tier shift, I thought you said WAY, not why.
Let's start with #11 Seems like he's taking the OMGUS comment seriously and acting defensively over it.

#17 what is going on here? This is the start of the push. We're barely off the first page, and he's already coming up with scum tells that look more contrived than convincing.
BBT says most of the things I was thinking in posts 29 and 31.

As far as scripten's explanation,

I'll admit I was slightly under pressure later on.

It didn't seem like he was under pressure. It seems like he was being paranoid, oh 36 he was paranoid. Ok, let's drop it, but 41, nope still going to keep tunneling on this.

It doesn't look like scum hunting, it looks like a guy trying to push a shitty RVS case, that is going no where.

And Script, name calling isn't going to convince me to not vote you.

[Scripten]

I hope it's clear that I have a vendetta, because I said it. Did tiershift say the same thing I did? What makes you think that tiershift has a vendetta?

-snip-

And Script, name calling isn't going to convince me to not vote you.

Yawn. I wasn't calling you any names. Where did I call you a name? I also did not say that I thought Tiershift has a vendetta. I said that I couldn't make heads or tails of your post where you voted vettrock. I asked whether you had a vendetta or sheeping Tiershift.

And you are sheeping like there's no tomorrow. Hence my comments about it. Again, do you have

anything

original to say, or are you just going to regurgitate what's already been said?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

And you are sheeping like there's no tomorrow. Hence my comments about it. Again, do you have

anything

original to say, or are you just going to regurgitate what's already been said?

What can I say...I present good cases.

[TierShift]

not really