Open 30 - Fire and Ice (Game Over!) - before 470

[LoudmouthLee]

But your ultimate objective is

always

your win condition. By self-hammering when you were the last Fire around, you took deliberate action that made it impossible to fulfil your win condition. If you had self-hammered and outed AE but your partner was still alive I would have hailed it as an incredible scum move. But since you did it when in the process of making yourself lose on purpose there was nothing your faction could gain from it, which makes it basically asshattery.

Now it's not going to get you banned, but you should

always

try to achieve your win condition as that's fundamentally what drives this game in the first place. The only explanation I can find for what you did was that you were mad at AE for going after you throughout the day and so you decided to take her down with you, despite throwing the game for both you and your partner in the process.

Dude, sorry i took your partner out. Relax, it's a game.

Well, Venda, you had nothing to gain by doing it. You felt angry that AE nailed you to the wall (and she did), and you felt the need to be vindictive. It was the jealous boyfriend syndrome.. "If I can't win.. you won't either."

You also made comments that alluded to her cheating, which was so obviously not the case.

You seriously need to grow up.

[Vendagoat]

(shakes head and smiles)

Enjoy folks.

[Guardian]

Happy you all enjoyed. The pit of eternal darkness shall rise again .

[Stewie]

It was a pleasure having you all in the game.

One thing I ask

-- if there is any moding thing that could have been better/that I could improve, let me know -- I aim to please .

Not being so picky with the unvoting/voting

[mneme]

Yah. There's no reason you need to make people unvote before voting -- it's not much more work on the mods' part to just allow votes to supersede prior votes.

Great game (and a perfect game!), though.

And props go to LML on Day 3 for pointing out why Mert was scummier than Crub -- I'd noted him mostly by elimination in my PBPA, but was still thinking of Crub as scummier until that post.

I don't think it serves to dwell on Vendagoat's parting shot -- but I think it's a reasonable enough "giving up" final move. We really -did- have him nailed to the wall, what with his cues both on day 2 and day 1. In truth, since AE was very much the primary ice suspect coming out of day 2, his self hammer was more likely to hurt town (make us mislynch if she was protected) than ice -- it was sheer chance that she was both ice -and- protected.

It is the nature of the setup for scum to prefer a town win to a win for the other faction -- if anything, this is the one thing that pushes things a bit in the town's favor, since without scum trying to lynch other scum, the town has little chance.

[MrBuddyLee]

woot. Thanks Guardian, well-run game!

[Guardian]

Well, I guess that's it, I hope you all enjoyed!

Last (or second to last) post!

[MeMe]

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