Prisoner's Dilemma --- Congratulations to Sudo_Nym and Tamuz

[Xdaamno]

'Fox River' is filled with corrupt officials and guards with a grudge against a group of criminals. After capturing these notorious members, they were shocked to find the prisoner's files erased and no evidence remaining against them.

Guess they'll have to make it themselves...

Prisoners:

Alive: 2/11

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Sudo_Nym

Health:

2

/10
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Tamuz

Health:

1

/10
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Replacements: The Greg (After the 30th June)

Dead: 9/11

. Needs more cowbell.
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blahgo

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Korran

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JDodge

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Mokina

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somestrangeflea

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Jordan

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Yagami

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Khelvaster

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Guzame

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[Xdaamno]

The Rules:

This game plays like the classic 'Prisoner's Dilemma'; but with multiple players. Each convict begins with 10 HP.

There will be three alternating stages: Reveal, Discussion and Action.

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In the

Reveal

phase, the guards will issue a charge against all living players. This charge contains details about how much HP is lost or gained by each action (See the action phase). Apart from the first reveal phase, results on the previous action phase will also be given.

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The

Discussion

phase lasts 24-48 hours (eligible to change). During this time, players can talk about strategies and moves.

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The

Action

phase is when the thread is locked and actions are sent in. It ends when all actions have been recieved; I may set a deadline.

During the action phase, you may choose to do one of two things:

Defect:

If you defect, you must specify a player. You will lie by saying they performed the crime given in the reveal phase, and they will lose health, while you will be given a free pass. If another player defects against you, your sentence will be lessened.

Co-Operate:

By co-operating, you are placing your trust in your fellow players. You will not lose any health (but actually gain some in the earlier stages). If you are defected against, however, you recieve the maximum penalty.

A random, low number of players will also be randomly chosen as 'Top Dogs'. These players will recieve the ability to, once per game, use their manipulative skills to avert all charges and HP loss during that round, and redirect half (rounded down) of the maximum sentence against the players who defected against him/her. This can not be used in conjunction with another action.

Damage against players

does not

stack (Changed this after running statistics in excel). Only one defect against each individual counts, so multiple defects against 1 person only counts as 1 defect.

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The game then once again progresses to the reveal phase and a new crime is charged. The last player to survive is the winner (Or, if multiple players survive all twelve charges, the game is considered a draw).

For further reading, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_Dilemma

Open for questions, of course

[JDodge]

/in

[JordanA24]

/in

[Mokina]

/in

[somestrangeflea]

/in

[Sudo_Nym]

Before I definitively state anything, I need to know more about how you plan to adapt the game to more than two players, especcially if we don't all cooperate or betray. If there are ten players, and three cooperate and the rest betray, what happens?

[somestrangeflea]

I'm not to sure on the rules myself, but it has something to do with

who

they choose to betray.

[Xdaamno]

Just came downstairs to finish something off.

Before I definitively state anything, I need to know more about how you plan to adapt the game to more than two players, especcially if we don't all cooperate or betray. If there are ten players, and three cooperate and the rest betray, what happens?

In this game, the only way I could adapt it was you had to betray

someone

, and if they're co-operating they'll recieve the maximum sentence (HP Loss). See:

Defect: If you defect, you must specify a player.

Just to clear things up, whenever I talk about sentencing people etc I'm reffering to how much HP they lose, it's a metaphor for all purposes. Hopefully it will become clearer as the game is played.

And for further clarification, this is an example of a 'crime' given at the reveal phase:

'Insert Crime Here'
+1 HP for players who Co-Operate
-1 HP for players who defect, and are defected against
-3 HP for players who Co-Operate, and are defected against.

You may, therefore, wish to change your playstyle based on different charges against you.

I'll leave signups open for a while and see how many players I get.

[Guzame]

/In

[Korran]

f/ine

[Sudo_Nym]

Now I'm kinda curious as to how this will shake out. Count me /in.

[YagamiLight]

Seems interesting, count me /in.

[The Greg]

/in

[Xdaamno]

Taking 12 people - 3 more places left

Edited a rule: Damage against players stack. If one player co-operates and two defect against him, he will recieve double the maximum sentence. EDIT: After two players have defected against someone, any further defects against that person will not count (I.e. they can't take more than double the normal damage).

Double Edit: After running some charts in excel, I'm gonna change the ruling AGAIN so that no matter how many people defect against you, you only take 1 defect's worth of damage/HP loss.

[blahgo]

/in

[Xdaamno]

Ending signups tonight around 9-10pm GMT, then I'll start with who I have.

Out-Of-Thread communication will be allowed, but if you don't NEED to use it, it'd be a lot better to post here.

[Mokina]

Also... a brief question. Can you defect against multiple people? Think this over carefully.

[Khelvaster]

in

[Xdaamno]

Also... a brief question. Can you defect against multiple people? Think this over carefully.

While I admit this isn't going to be exactly the same strategic-wise as 2 player prisoner's dilemma, the answer is no. By doing so you'll be doing damage to more people, and there isn't really a penalty I can give to balance this out.

[The Greg]

Gah...

My sincerest apologies, but I'm going to have to /out. I'll be away until Saturday, June 30, so I won't be around when the game starts. If you could arrange for a temporary replacement for me, I'll join at that time. If not, put me on the replacement list.

[Xdaamno]

No problem. I'll put you on the replacement list, but I'd prefer not to waste anyone else's time by making them temporarily replace you.

[Tamuz]

ins

[Xdaamno]

OK, 11 players will be fine.

Starting the game, and sending out all roles (I.E. whether you're normal/have the ability to manipulate once per game).

I'll start the reveal/discussion phase shortly.

[Xdaamno]

All PMs have been sent out, no confirmations needed.

Starting Reveal Phase 1

The porticullus grind against the cold, brick walls. Looks like you'll be in here for a while. Hopefully.

First Charge:

Petty Theft

Gain 2 HP if you Co-Operate, and are not defected against
Gain 0 HP if you Defect, and are not defected against
Lose 1 HP if you Defect, and are defected against
Lose 3 HP if you Co-Operate, and are defected against

Starting Discussion Phase 1

Out-Of-Thread communications are allowed, but for the sake of the game, please do not talk out-of-thread in the action phase. You will now have 24-48 hours to discuss tactics, strategies or tigers.