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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2007 10:34 am

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DeanWinchester wrote:I don't like putting both Yos and Lee up there because they may be scum working together. I think we should put one of them up there and look else where for the other two.

Vote Yosarian
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Wait, what?

A and B may be scum, so just revive A?

I'm sorry, this demands a
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2007 10:52 am

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So do you not want to revive either of them or do you have an issue with me thinking we should only revive one of the two of them?

I think they are both good players and seem to be town, but them being cool with either one of them being revived has me weary of reviving both of them.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2007 1:21 pm

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[quote="LoudmouthLee"][quote="Machiavellian-Mafia"]Looks to me like we can still play mafia like normal, except instead of voting for the suspicious people to lynch, we avoid voting for them to prevent their revival and vote for more protown people, essentially just like the "reverse" theme of the game.

And I like this good/bad karma idea from our mod.
Good Karma
: KaleiÐoscøpe for having unusual characters in his name.[/quote]

Random Good Karma? That makes no sense.

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I liked the novel good/bad karma idea from our mod, so at the beginning of the game where it's ok to be random and silly, I chose to random good karma Kscope. I think you may be taking this a little too seriously.

I also think Relph has likely made a Freudian Slip with his "4 people with information" post, so I'd say he's likely scum and I wouldn't consider reviving him.
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So far IMO Yos, LML, Logi, and DW have made the best initial protown impressions, but none of them have sufficient protownness to have my vote right now.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2007 7:23 pm

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Now would be a great time for a karma count!
Mod, can you do something?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2007 10:20 pm

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Vote Count:

Yosarian2 3 - (Yosarian2, johhan, DeanWinchester)

KaleiÐoscøpe 2 - (Relph, KaleiÐoscøpe)
logicticus 1 - (yellowbounder)
LoudmouthLee 1 - (LoudmouthLee)
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7 to revive.

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Yosarian2 ~ 2

KaleiÐoscøpe ~ 1
LoudmouthLee ~ 1
johhan ~ 0
Zindaras ~ 0
Vel-Rahn Koon ~ 0
logicticus ~ 0
OverTheUnder ~ 0
DeanWinchester ~ -1
yellowbounder ~ -1
Machiavellian-Mafia -1
Relph ~ -4
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2007 10:52 pm

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DeanWinchester wrote:So do you not want to revive either of them or do you have an issue with me thinking we should only revive one of the two of them?

I think they are both good players and seem to be town, but them being cool with either one of them being revived has me weary of reviving both of them.
How about we don't revive them if they give out scum tells, and revive them if they try to help the town, instead of arbitrailily reviving one of them because "we need an experienced player"?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 4:37 am

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yellowbounder wrote:
DeanWinchester wrote:So do you not want to revive either of them or do you have an issue with me thinking we should only revive one of the two of them?

I think they are both good players and seem to be town, but them being cool with either one of them being revived has me weary of reviving both of them.
How about we don't revive them if they give out scum tells, and revive them if they try to help the town, instead of arbitrailily reviving one of them because "we need an experienced player"?
Yellow, you have already advocated that someone self voting (or self hammering is scummy) which, logically, I posted. You ignored it completely. Let it be known, I am NOT cool with Yos. Actually, he scares me as one of the best players I have played with. He trusts me even less than I trust him (look back to Normal: Himilayan Mafia) However, when we both seem to LOGICALLY agree on certain actions, it's telling.

If you think we're both mafia, then we shouldn't promote either of us. If you think we're both town, you should promote BOTH of us. I'm town. I know that much. I don't know about Yos's allignment. I
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 9:23 am

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Yosarian2 wrote:Based just on experence and on who would be more likely to make good decisions when town, loudmouth lee's probably a decent choice for revival, although I can't say I've really got much of a read on his alignment yet.
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I am currently only happy with 2 people for promotion to the real world. That's currently Myself and Yosarian. I will vote for either, as of right now.

[b[Good Karma: Yos[/b]
Let me clarify my position.

I think they are both town. They both seem very logical and strong players.

They are however ok with them both being revived.

That is where my concern comes in. If they are scum togther, then working together to get them both up there, on the premise "hey were both good players and we both think the other is town' is a really great move.

I beilive they are both town, but the town should have a back-up plan in case they are a scum pair making an amazing move. By only puting one of them up there to help lead the town and looking else where for the other two, the town insures we have a strong, presumably, town player
while covering our backsides.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 11:02 am

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It is only page 3. Now wouldn't be a time to make a lynch, and thus I don't think we should revive anyone yet.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 11:22 am

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I agree completely with Yellowbounder. I don't like how they have team up together, not just in attacking my posts, but in calling themselves the best option to vote. I do feel loudmouth a better option that Yos anyway.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 3:51 pm

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Yeah, I agree that reviving people who seem to have banded together is dangerous. I'd say voting for one or the other is fine, but not both, just in case...
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 4:36 pm

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Relph wrote:I agree completely with Yellowbounder. I don't like how they have team up together, not just in attacking my posts, but in calling themselves the best option to vote. I do feel loudmouth a better option that Yos anyway.
You aren't the sparkling measure of Pro-Townness, are you?

Everyone, please make on a mental note of Relph's response here.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 4:47 pm

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LoudmouthLee wrote:
Relph wrote:I agree completely with Yellowbounder. I don't like how they have team up together, not just in attacking my posts, but in calling themselves the best option to vote. I do feel loudmouth a better option that Yos anyway.
You aren't the sparkling measure of Pro-Townness, are you?

Everyone, please make on a mental note of Relph's response here.
He does have a point, though. reviving people who seem linked is a good way to accidentally lose this game in the first few days.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 4:48 pm

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johhan wrote:
LoudmouthLee wrote:
Relph wrote:I agree completely with Yellowbounder. I don't like how they have team up together, not just in attacking my posts, but in calling themselves the best option to vote. I do feel loudmouth a better option that Yos anyway.
You aren't the sparkling measure of Pro-Townness, are you?

Everyone, please make on a mental note of Relph's response here.
He does have a point, though. reviving people who seem linked is a good way to accidentally lose this game in the first few days.
I want to know how Yos and I are linked besides having good logic...
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 10:43 pm

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Relph wrote:I agree completely with Yellowbounder. I don't like how they have team up together, not just in attacking my posts, but in calling themselves the best option to vote. I do feel loudmouth a better option that Yos anyway.
As a general note, it's quite dangerous to assume that people who agree with each other are on the same side. In fact, when someone starts agreeing with me all the time, that's when I start checking my back for the knife. ;)
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu May 17, 2007 11:20 pm

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I am much displeased with the speed of this Yoswagon. Then again, I was displeased with that last time too, and he turned out to be town. But I'm not adding my vote for now.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2007 2:24 am

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Yos is giving good logical thought. I Like myself better as a revive candidate, but that's only because I know my own allignment.

On a different note, I will be away until Tuesday of next week (4 days). No replacement is necessary.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2007 5:16 am

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LoudmouthLee wrote:
johhan wrote:
LoudmouthLee wrote:
Relph wrote:I agree completely with Yellowbounder. I don't like how they have team up together, not just in attacking my posts, but in calling themselves the best option to vote. I do feel loudmouth a better option that Yos anyway.
You aren't the sparkling measure of Pro-Townness, are you?

Everyone, please make on a mental note of Relph's response here.
He does have a point, though. reviving people who seem linked is a good way to accidentally lose this game in the first few days.
I want to know how Yos and I are linked besides having good logic...
I think the reason he (and others) might believe you are linked is because you have both voiced support for each other while maintaining they would rather see themselves revived.

There are no other pairs of players in this game voicing support for each other. Although many people are supporting Yos.

I dont think thats scummy, but I can see how others could.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2007 7:24 am

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LoudmouthLee wrote:Yos is giving good logical thought. I Like myself better as a revive candidate, but that's only because I know my own allignment.
So what, because he's logical he's town? It's not that easy, my dear.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri May 18, 2007 8:08 am

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Zindaras wrote:
LoudmouthLee wrote:Yos is giving good logical thought. I Like myself better as a revive candidate, but that's only because I know my own allignment.
So what, because he's logical he's town? It's not that easy, my dear.
No. Trust me, sexyman. I know my logic.

If someone is thinking along the same lines as me, and I know I am town, it makes me feel "more comfortable" with them. I think that makes sense.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sat May 19, 2007 10:32 pm

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LoudmouthLee wrote:
Zindaras wrote:
LoudmouthLee wrote:Yos is giving good logical thought. I Like myself better as a revive candidate, but that's only because I know my own allignment.
So what, because he's logical he's town? It's not that easy, my dear.
No. Trust me, sexyman. I know my logic.

If someone is thinking along the same lines as me, and I know I am town, it makes me feel "more comfortable" with them. I think that makes sense.
Sexyman? *raises eyebrow*

Could you point me at the specific things you agree with? Because from what I'm reading from him, his statements are mostly basic knowledge of the Reverse setup and how it is played.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun May 20, 2007 8:37 pm

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My access is going to be kind of spotchy till firday or sat.
Not non existent, but I'll only be able to really check in between now and then.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 4:37 am

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Sorry folks, RL has been crap for the last few days.

I'm not happy reviving anyone at the moment. If this were a regular game, we wouldn't even considering lynching someone on page 3, and with the lack of information we're going to be getting from this game, I can't vote for anyone in good conscience at this point.

As Zindy pointed out, the only real reason for Yos's support at this time is that he's basically explained the game. Any one of us could do that, and I think that voting to revive someone based on that is just crazy. Sure he was pro-town in the first game like this, but that means exactly nothing in this game. Yos has a 25% chance to be scum in this game, just like everyone else (assuming an 8/4 setup).

Also, I could have sworn that I read somewhere that CDb posted that there was an 8/4 setup, but I'm not seeing it now.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 4:40 am

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My dear Velly, 9/3 is 25% chance, 8/4 is 33%. What's up with the mass amount of people thinking it's 8/4?
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Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
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Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2007 4:42 am

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Well, the part in particular when Yos and I nearly doubleposted was in regards to Relph's post.

This game is moving entirely too slow. No one is posting. It's making me break out into hives.
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