Mini 442 - Beast Wars Mafia Game Over

[JordanA24]

Jordan, please try and include names in your quotes. I'm not sure who said what you posted above.

Sorry. .

[ryan]

WOW. Look who crawled out and suddenly is posting its Aimee. So a lurker wants some answers? That’s interesting…. but why not, I’ve got nothing to hide, so here’s my look on a few posters


Lowell: Post #32 was the first time I looked at Lowell and thought guilty, it was early in the game and he already wants to bandwagon a newbie to make him crack? That wasn’t trying to find scum that was trying to get a town lynch on somebody early on, THAN he apologizes and throws a vote at me because I called him out on his comment? Lowell than chimes in, in post 47 saying Hackhuck is town (definitely coming to somebody’s aid rather early) And now after your post he suddenly thinks you could be suspicious?

Hackerhuck: Became defensive right away with my random.org vote. Very strange to tell somebody they suck when the vote was RANDOM. I’ve always said that early posts tell a lot about how people play and immediately I saw this as strange how he misconstrued my vote. Than jumps on me because I didn’t like how Lowell bandwagon voted and says I’m not playing it “safe” like I earlier said? How is one vote on somebody not playing it safe? Post 64 asking me what I thought about the “bandwagon on me” also seemed rather odd.

Primoris post #84 saying he doesn’t want me to be sacrificed but is willing to do so to see if my “scum buddies unvote to save me” is strange indeed. Why you would take a chance putting a townie in a lynch? Seems like he took a chance to vote with one of his scum buddies and didn’t really get called out on it

Lowell and Hackerhuck still feel to me as though they are scum but I wouldn’t hesitate in voting Primoris either.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Albert jumps in with another rhyme, and points suspicion at Lowell and Teffc, yet doesn’t explain why. The two posts he gives as reasons aren’t justifiable of any suspicion. Therefore why do you consider Teffc and Lowell to be the most suspicious?

"Mr. Rampage, can you please explain the meaning behind your violent lyrics?"

Explain tha meaning?? What tha f*** these **** talkin about...

As for my suspicions,

Teffc hasn't made any posts other than a random vote and some blog like things rather than any meaningful conversation

, this especially stood out for me:

morning, my computer crashed yesterday and i had to have it fixed...sorry i couldn't post earlier
there are a few persons i would like to see post.
so i'm sticking to my first choice, deezer.

Is he making a few random/slightly helpful posts to try and make herself look more pro-town than she really is?

I'm keeping my vote avaliable at the moment but I'm

FOS/IGMEOY:Teffc

Why the bold statement, HackerHuck? Seems to me you are trying to get someone's attention with that. Is there any particular reason for it? Being immune to investigations sounds like a good reason for saying it.

@ Lowell
HH suspects you and all you can reply is

Good post. This guy is town.

Feeling safe he is not voting for you?

fos

HackerHuck and

Lowell

My attitude is sh*tty, my message to the censorship comity
Who's tha biggest gang of mafia in the city?
The courts are the crooks
Take a closer look

Gotta watch your back, strapped
Real scum laugh back
If you get your ass taxed, swing your gat back

Unvote

[JordanA24]

Albert jumps in with another rhyme, and points suspicion at Lowell and Teffc, yet doesn’t explain why. The two posts he gives as reasons aren’t justifiable of any suspicion. Therefore why do you consider Teffc and Lowell to be the most suspicious?

"Mr. Rampage, can you please explain the meaning behind your violent lyrics?"

Explain tha meaning?? What tha f*** these **** talkin about...

As for my suspicions,

Teffc hasn't made any posts other than a random vote and some blog like things rather than any meaningful conversation

, this especially stood out for me:

morning, my computer crashed yesterday and i had to have it fixed...sorry i couldn't post earlier
there are a few persons i would like to see post.
so i'm sticking to my first choice, deezer.

Is he making a few random/slightly helpful posts to try and make herself look more pro-town than she really is?

I'm keeping my vote avaliable at the moment but I'm

FOS/IGMEOY:Teffc

Why the bold statement, HackerHuck? Seems to me you are trying to get someone's attention with that. Is there any particular reason for it? Being immune to investigations sounds like a good reason for saying it.

@ Lowell
HH suspects you and all you can reply is

Good post. This guy is town.

Feeling safe he is not voting for you?

fos

HackerHuck and

Lowell

My attitude is sh*tty, my message to the censorship comity
Who's tha biggest gang of mafia in the city?
The courts are the crooks
Take a closer look

Gotta watch your back, strapped
Real scum laugh back
If you get your ass taxed, swing your gat back

Unvote

Are you saying that me and Teffc are scum, or just Teffc?

The rhymes are great, but you make it a bit clearer what you mean, unless your posting restriction doesn't allow it.

[TrustGossip]

I have just been hired for a summer job, so I've been busy doing screenings, interviews, licensing, consulting and et. cetera. Also, as my first game with 12, I

am

a bit overwhelmed.

Please give me 15 minutes to process five pages of banter, if I don't respond then I am worthy of your suspicion.

[ryan]

I have just been hired for a summer job, so I've been busy doing screenings, interviews, licensing, consulting and et. cetera. Also, as my first game with 12, I

am

a bit overwhelmed.

Please give me 15 minutes to process five pages of banter,

if I don't respond then I am worthy of your suspicion

.

Sounds fair to me 8)

[TrustGossip]

Ok.

Primoris, your L-2 on ryan was very unwise when there were four (five?!) lurkers at that time. And for what?

Ryan has been very talkative, explained his interpretation of the reason for voting, explained his theories on multiple people. Isn't that the reason for bandwagoning? To mine information from a particular player? And ryan has done all of this, and everything a bandwagon could accomplish short of a total crack or a nameclaim.

I have some problems with teffc and ryan both insisting on Hackerhuck and Lowell being scum. That's tying them together through nameplanting, and although I see your reasons for suspecting Lowell, I fail to see what's suspicious about Hackerhuck.

teffc in particular worries me with phrases like, "too clean", "too safe", "not enough evidence". Well duh on the evidence, we still have two lurkers that have done next to nothing in this game.

Jordan and Albert seem safest to me. Although Albert was somewhat cryptic in the beginning, he's opened up quite a lot with his (I'm assuming) post-restriction. I especially agree with post 85, which is essentially my first paragraph.

aimee, time will tell. I know you had finals and your summary was very helpful, but long summaries with commentary can be a scum tactic to shift suspicions and et. cetera. You're still neutral to me though, leaning towards town.

Hackerhuck I'd like to see more information come out of you. You seem very town ATM but I'd definitely like to see more contribution, maybe you'd need a wagon on you to talk...?

I agree with aimee's assessment that teffc is the scummiest. Posting for the sake of posting and not helping in the investigation, obsfucating ryan's actual intentions and actually contributing on the wagon on him since he seems to agree with HH and lowell as scum. Unless you're both scum playing a game of good cop/bad cop extremely ineptly, I'd say I have a reason to suspect you.

lowell, I had some suspicion about you at the beginning, but now you've gone to lurking. Please don't let this be a scum tactic because it's really obvious (and it's kind of working, because I don't think you're that scummy really).

To the last two. Post already. Really, c'mon, it's page five.

Unvote: Vote teffc
FOS: Primoris, lowell

[ryan]

WAY too many lurkers here!

[Aimee]

Jordan, Albert was saying that Teffc and Lowell were most suspicious, but using your post to explain why.

[JordanA24]

Thanks Aimee.

[ryan]

Where are we vote count wise? Looks to me as though at least 4 still have not posted and thus are hurting us townies more than helping us find the scum

[chaotic_diablo]

Vote Count 4 for Day One

Lowell (2) : OvertheUnder, ryan

ryan (4) : deezr, Lowell, HackerHuck, Primoris

teffc (1) : TrustGossip

Not Voting (5) : Ripley, JordanA24, Teffc, Aimee, Albert B. Rampage

Remember, it's 7 to lynch.

[ryan]

To you townies that still haven't voted it's time to step up and take out the trash. There are scum that have targeted me, do not let them take me out, I am a pro town player and am more helpful alive than dead, trust me.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Who knows what tomorrow brings
In this world where everyone lies
Where to go
No matter how far I find
To let you know
That You're not alone

Vote: Teffc

[JordanA24]

So far, I see our main suspects as Teffc and Lowell.

For starters both haven't posted on this page at all, that's 2 days, although they haven't posted anywhere else either. But I still want to see a bit more defense, especially from Lowell. Teffc's last post said that she didn't suspect Ryan, and that sometimes mafia act so protown they are never suspected. (Pointing towards HH maybe?) I don't see anything hugely wrong with that.

But Lowell's last post I really didn't like:

That summary of Aimee's makes me weirdly suspcious, but I'm not sure why. M'eh.

What's wrong with a summary of the game, particularly one as useful and correct as that one? What doubts I already had about him have now been amplified by that.

Teffc's posting patterns up to this point, I think indicate newbie scum or a power role, but Lowell has just acted like scum to me. In fact, I'm so sure, I'm going to

Vote:Lowell

, and give Teffc an

FOS

.

And I've still got my eye on Primoris as well, but I think he's more future lynch material than a Day 1 lynch so far.

[Aimee]

vote: Teffc

She hasn't come on to defend herself, and I see her as the most scummy so far.

[JordanA24]

I suggest everyone who's voting Ryan unvote him and put it somewhere decent, he clearly isn't the best lynch for today.

[ryan]

Where are you putting your vote at Jordan?

[JordanA24]

Where are you putting your vote at Jordan?

Lowell (Post 114).

[ryan]

Sorry I missed that, so we're down to 2 lurkers (non-voters) ?

[HackerHuck]

I suggest everyone who's voting Ryan unvote him and put it somewhere decent, he clearly isn't the best lynch for today.

Why?

[JordanA24]

Well, Ryan's bandwagon was mostly because people had a slight suspicion about his safe voting tactics, and some cited not voting Lowell even though he was sure as a reason EVEN THOUGH HE DID VOTE LOWELL.

Also, apart from deezr's random vote, Lowell, who is scum, was the first to vote for him for seemingly no reason at all. It seems obvious to me that either Lowell or Teffc are by far better lynches for today.

[ryan]

Has everyone weighed in with a vote yet?

[Lowell]

@Jordan- Okay, okay, we get it. You're upset that we're trying to lynch your scumbuddy. Sheesh.

Seriously, you're trying to present a "most likely" scenario that doesn't include ryan, just cuz you *wubs* him too much? Does that, like, EVER work?

Ryan today, Jordan tomorrow, celebratory wine and cheese for all after.

[ryan]

^^^ Lowell that was as useless of a post as you've posted in awhile now. I definetly feel much better about my vote now, you are definetly scum and you show it by not helping us find the scum. Seriously what does that post tell us? That you're mad because Jordan stood up to you? You are mad that I voted you? Or you feel as though you are going to be killed and it's a last dash effort to save your own backside by throwing out my name and Jordan's and saying we are scum together?

I mean going back to your last post before that masterpiece was post #99 throwing suspicion at Aimee due to her summary because it made you "weirdly suspicious" And your post before that #47 was this gem

I personally like to see who jumps on and off of wagons on day one.

Plays it safe but feels that Lowell is guilty?

Vote: Ryan

Good post. This guy is town.

Am I the only one watching you "lurk" thru this entire game?

And after I called you out for "Bandwagoning a newbie to make him crack" (your words in post 32) you immediately turned defensive and voted me without any solid reasons

unvote, vote Trustgossp

to bandwagon a newbie and make him crack.

How's this, just tell us your scumbuddies and I'll let you live.

WHY would you bandwagon a potential townie? I'm not sure I like your tactics

My apologies. That bandwagon was totally unnecessary.

unvote, vote ryan

. FEEEAAR me...

Folks, the evidence couldn't get much easier than this. Lowell is our scum, plain and simple.