Open 19 - Nightless (Over?) before 430

[Occult]

Well, we lost NAR's mass voting spree (3 votes in one page and a comment about stating that this day is two slow, we need to lynch somone.)

So I'll go back to,

Vote NAR

[Elias_the_thief]

well, i know that NAR saw that the site was up, i talked to him on scumchat. wierd that he didnt post. anyways, ill go back to my

vote: NAR

in case it isnt registered. sadly we lost the post where i laid out my six reasons that NAR is scum. but i think you guys remember so its all good.

[Aimee]

I made a post of what I thought of everyone. Will post that tomorrow.

[now a ranger]

well, i know that NAR saw that the site was up, i talked to him on scumchat. wierd that he didnt post. anyways, ill go back to my

vote: NAR

in case it isnt registered. sadly we lost the post where i laid out my six reasons that NAR is scum. but i think you guys remember so its all good.

6 reasons? sure.



Care to relist? You didn't have 6.

[Elias_the_thief]

er, i had 6. im quite certain. i know one was the indecisiveness, one was votehopping, one was lying about me, another was that you tried to build a case against me based on your own lies...
thats all i can remember right now. i had 6 though. anyways, i think 4 reasons is still enough to justify my vote.

[now a ranger]

4 reasons ARE enough to justify your vote.

there weren't any others. I'm pretty sure that was it.

[TonyMoonshine]

Ok, when someone is impatient what does that usually mean? With a quick scan of the game this is all I have for now.

[now a ranger]

random vote: Tony Moonshine

Because I'm impatient.

Do you mean this post?

[TonyMoonshine]

random vote: Tony Moonshine

Because I'm impatient.

Do you mean this post?

No, I understand that's a random vote and it's how games are started. I've read things about quick lynch and who it benefits, so for those who want a quick lynch or just seem impatient what information does that provide?

[Simenon]

Battle Mage replaces blahgo.

[mustafa15]

4 reasons ARE enough to justify your vote.

there weren't any others. I'm pretty sure that was it.

What are you saying there? This seems to be a pretty trivial dispute.

Battle Mage, did you happen to read any of this before the whole NaR fiasco was deleted? If not, then you're kinda missing out on a lot of stuff...

[Elias_the_thief]

summary for BM: NAR votehopped, then when i brought it up he accused me of just copying what other people said. i actually was the first to accuse him of votehopping. he subsequently voted me for following other peoples opinions (which i didnt). Thats pretty much the whole summary. And there was much votehopping, but in particular there was the time he voted, unvoted, then voted vitamin in 3 consecutive posts.

[now a ranger]

yeah yeah yeah.....

whatever... tweaked stories.

[Elias_the_thief]

ok, post your version then.

[now a ranger]

because I couldn't get used to a nightless, I acted weird and didn't know how to adapt after IH and others said that bandwagoning isn't inherently bad.

That doesn't make me scum.

[Elias_the_thief]

making up facts and using them to build a case against someone is scummy no matter what NAR. end of story.

[now a ranger]

I did not make up facts. end of story.

[Elias_the_thief]

yes you did.. you claimed I had just copied everyones accusations about you. NO ONE had once mentioned votehopping before my post.

[now a ranger]

They implied I was votehopping too much already when you posted.

[John]

Implications are hard to acertain with text, NAR. try cold hard evidence.

Unvote, FoS: NAR

Just cause i think i had a vote on him, but i forgot so this is just in case. this new server thing is almost like a fresh start to me.

[Occult]

because I couldn't get used to a nightless, I acted weird and didn't know how to adapt after IH and others said that bandwagoning isn't inherently bad.

That doesn't make me scum.

You voted 3 times in four posts and was extreamly defensive. You even switched votes while I was posting. I veiwed it as scum freaking out over the fact he was getting votes.

Next, I really don't see much difference in town play for a nightless over a regular game. Especially during the first day, you're in a hole you dug for yourself and, IMO, your hiding behind the "I'm a newbie excuse" to get yourself out of it.

[Elias_the_thief]

yeah, this is my first nightless too. you didnt see me jumping around like crazy.

[John]

Same here. and i ALWAYS am the most jummpy.

Even with all this suspicion, i dont know if i really think he is scum. i think scum would think alot more about what they would say.

[Battle Mage]

no i didnt but i have read up on some players.
ill reread fully later (obviously withou the lost data)

4 reasons ARE enough to justify your vote.

there weren't any others. I'm pretty sure that was it.

What are you saying there? This seems to be a pretty trivial dispute.

Battle Mage, did you happen to read any of this before the whole NaR fiasco was deleted? If not, then you're kinda missing out on a lot of stuff...

[Aimee]

This is what I thought of every player before the loss - I think it was one of the last posts:

blahgo jumped on the bandwagon against John without any reasons. He hasn’t yet defended his actions properly, merely calling them “pseudo random”.

Drain Bead jumped against blahgo for his unexplained actions, firstly putting on a FoS and then voting. More recently, she has jumped on the bandwagon against NAR for his actions as well. That said, I don’t think at all that Drain Bead’s actions are particularly scummy.

Elias joined the suspicion against blahgo, but quickly moved to NAR, who he called out for vote hopping. He then gives six very valid reasons why he voted against NAR. His actions seem pro-town right now.

IH seemed suspicious of blahgo’s bandwagoning and has also expressed suspicion against Occult and NAR, calling NAR “opportunistic scum.” He also then claimed that if NAR is scum, then so is Occult.

John drew early suspicion for clarifying the rules, but I don’t believe this was scummy at all. After a quick spat about this with VitaminR, he moved towards blahgo’s unexplained vote and then NAR. He seems quite aggressive in his suspicions, but having played in another game with him shows me that his playstyle is similarly aggressive.

mustafa15 jumped against blahgo and called him “newbie scum”. He then joked he was the mafia, which led to an attack by VitaminR. No real vibes omitting at the moment.

NAR, meanwhile, has been vote hopping – voting initially for VitaminR, then unvoting, and then voting for VitaminR again. He then voted against blahgo, whilst not giving any reasons, and then towards mustafa15. He then votes for blahgo again, and then after elias attacked him, he voted against elias, in what seems like an OMGUS vote. Next, in the space of three minutes he votes for elias, complaining the day is taking too long, and then for blahgo again. He has since accused blahgo, and myself, of lurking again.

Occult joined the blahgo bandwagon, and has suspected many people throughout the game, mainly John and blahgo. He has also put FoSes on others, including myself, Vitamin and IH. He has also defended mustafa15. He has recently attacked NAR for vote hopping, like others, and has put a vote on against him.

Romanus initially lurked, but has since emerged as quite pro-town, after his points against NAR.

TonyMoonshine probably stayed the longest against the initial John bandwagon, and has recently lurked and not said much. No real vibes at the moment.

VitaminR’s playstyle has been called out as putting pressure on people, which is definitely what he is doing. He was the initiator of the John bandwagon at the start, and then attacked mustafa15. Recently, he has distanced, and hasn’t put as much pressure on NAR as some of the other players.