Open 19 - Nightless (Over?) before 430

[Elias_the_thief]

vote: john

posting above me is a scumtell.

[John]

Ha Ha, noone posted above you.

Unvote, Vote: Elias the thief

for having bad luck with posts.

[VitaminR]

Vote: John

He's scum.

[John]

That is the absolute best reason ever, Vitamin. Bar none.

[VitaminR]

'kay, here is my reason:

Just to make sure, Nightless does not allow NKs right? its all death by lynch?

This shows concern with scum powers. Town powers don't change in this set-up.

[TonyMoonshine]

'kay, here is my reason:

Just to make sure, Nightless does not allow NKs right? its all death by lynch?

This shows concern with scum powers. Town powers don't change in this set-up.

Sounds good to me.

[IH]

unvote, vote:John

Good call on that one Vit. I thought his statement looked Iffy, but I wasn't exactly sure what it meant, but you're probably right.

Tony, why didn't you put your vote on him if you thought it sounded good?

[TonyMoonshine]

unvote, vote:John

Good call on that one Vit. I thought his statement looked Iffy, but I wasn't exactly sure what it meant, but you're probably right.

Tony, why didn't you put your vote on him if you thought it sounded good?

I was late to the game and again I apologize. While catching up I made note of John's post, but this is only my second game and I learned not to be vote happy. Also, if we lynch him now what information do we have to go on for tomorrow?

[Occult]

fos: John

There's really not much to go on besides that slip up.
John, an explanation would be nice...

[IH]

I was late to the game and again I apologize. While catching up I made note of John's post, but this is only my second game and I learned not to be vote happy. Also, if we lynch him now what information do we have to go on for tomorrow?

There are more players than in a newbie game. With Twelve alive it's 7 to lynch.

Also this a mountainous nightless game.

Scum need 4 mislynches to win, right? So we have a guaranteed 4 days. Yet, with every person we lynch, the town gains "an extra life" since scum kills can't exactly balance it out.

Look at it this way.

with 12 alive, 4 are scum.

We lynch correctly, we're at 8 townies 3 scum left.

That's a guaranteed 5 days. We have some room to mislynch. We shouldn't get careless, but we shouldn't mind putting some pressure on people, because if scum speedlynch, then we have enough room to lynch them right back.

[mustafa15]

Random vote: Drain Bead

I think John was just making sure that he understood the basic concept of the game. I agree that it makes him slightly more suspicious than everyone else, but it doesn't warrant a bandwagon quite yet.

[John]

Your voting based on something I said in pre-game, but besides that, I was simply clarifying what the rules were.

Why should I not be concerned about scum powers? You think we should know nothing about the opposition? It would be just as dumb going into day 2 and having something i didn't see coming happen. I've never played nightless before, and there are no power roles mention in the first posts, I was curious because of the mafia's inbuilt ability to NK.

Maybe i should have reworded it, but it's a little late now.

[VitaminR]

Scum is just more likely to wonder about that than town. It is a perfectly valid question, though.

The fact that it was pre-game doesn't matter.

[TonyMoonshine]

I was late to the game and again I apologize. While catching up I made note of John's post, but this is only my second game and I learned not to be vote happy. Also, if we lynch him now what information do we have to go on for tomorrow?

There are more players than in a newbie game. With Twelve alive it's 7 to lynch.

Also this a mountainous nightless game.

Scum need 4 mislynches to win, right? So we have a guaranteed 4 days. Yet, with every person we lynch, the town gains "an extra life" since scum kills can't exactly balance it out.

Look at it this way.

with 12 alive, 4 are scum.

We lynch correctly, we're at 8 townies 3 scum left.

That's a guaranteed 5 days. We have some room to mislynch. We shouldn't get careless, but we shouldn't mind putting some pressure on people, because if scum speedlynch, then we have enough room to lynch them right back.

Everything makes sense. When I said, "sounds good" that was my way of putting pressure on John, I forgot about using:

fos: John

[John]

It should IMO, But thats regardless.

It has nothing to do with scum or town. It has to do with who is ignorant of the situation or not. Your twisting this on me.

If its a valid question, then why the vote?

FoS: VitaminR

[John]

The FoS is because i feel Vitamin is putting it on me, twisting what he admitted was a perfectly honest question.

[VitaminR]

It's a valid question, but you're more likely to be scum for it. Hence the vote.

The fact that it was pre-game doesn't change your awareness of your alignment.

[John]

True, but you at least realize how weak your reasoning really is, right?

But it is early, and its as good a place as any to start I guess.

[VitaminR]

Well yeah, I never said it was a very reliable determiner of alignment.

[blahgo]

vote:John

[Drain Bead]

This is my first nightless game. Is a quicklynch a little less suspicious in a game where there are no night kills? I'd imagine so, if only because we're not guaranteed to start out down two if we misfire on Day 1.

unvote

Not going so far as to vote John yet until I get an answer to my semi-noob question.

[Occult]

Yes, it's very suspicious. We don't even have a real page and everyone is already jumping on john.

Vote blahgo

Fos IH and VitaminR

Seems like an attempt to start a bandwagon to me.
Vit for starts it
IH agrees to keep it moving
blahgo doesn't even give an explanation, thats why he gets the vote. We need more to go on before we lynch in a nightless

[Elias_the_thief]

um, i actually had similar questions about the game, seeing as this is my first nightless as well. i think any intelligent scum would make it a point not to ask that, but ask about some other power role (i know this is WIFOM). I dont know. i admit it makes him more suspicious than anyone else so far, but im not comfortable with lynching him for ignorance.
Anyways, bandwagons are not inherantly scummy. I mean, a bandwagon to start conversation is a good thing, as long as there's no random lynch. But i dont like how blahgo just jumped on without saying anything.
so

fos: blahgo

, and

unvote

for now.

[Aimee]

FOS: Blahgo

Any particular reasons for simply jumping on the bandwagon against John?

[John]

This is my first nightless game. Is a quicklynch a little less suspicious in a game where there are no night kills? I'd imagine so, if only because we're not guaranteed to start out down two if we misfire on Day 1.

unvote

Not going so far as to vote John yet until I get an answer to my semi-noob question.

What question? You have 4 posts, none have a question.