Mini 416 - AM Mafia - Game Over D:

[CoG888]

Alas, sarcasm doesn't always come through in forum posts.

--------------Votecount as of the top of this page------------------
Nai -3- (Elias_the_thief, IH,Thestatusquo)
Thestatusquo -2- (Nai, CoG888)
Panzerjager -1- (bird1111)
massive_goonery -1- (Ripley)
IH -1- (PBug)

Not voting - (massive_goonery, Panzerjager, Sailor Jerry, trestain)

With 12 alive, it will take 7 votes to lynch someone!

[Thestatusquo]

When is wagoning ever a good stratetgy... unless you are SCUM?

Unvote Nai, VOTE: Thestatusquo

for wagoning on page One.

If youre gunna to throw a vote behind it, its not a joke.

[IH]

Vote:Cog

[sarcasm]It's not scummy to put a vote on someone, and then when someone disagrees, say you were just kidding, yet not remove your vote at all![/sarcasm]

[IH]

unvote, vote:Cog

[Nai]

It was scummy to put me at lynch -3 without actually having any reasoning behind it at all. I was being wagoned for asking a pro-town question there.

[CoG888]

Sarcastic votes, random votes, OMGUS votes... its all good on page one...
Now page TWO, thats different... *puts on serious hat*

[massive_goonery]

I have no idea what that just meant.

What I want to know is if "Sleep" equates to mafia all the time, and if all the 'sleep'-ers can talk to each other at night.

I know it sounds minor, but I could theoretically see this as pretty scummy. Presumably mafia already have this information, so asking about it seems like a scum tactic to seem pro-town. Also, I can see it as a longshot at possibly setting up a false claim later on.

Looks like there were a couple of unvotes, so I'm cool with a

Vote: Nai

at this point.

[Nai]

I love the game of mafia. It's the only game I know of where pro-town actions can be construed as scummy where scummy actions are ALSO scummy, meaning you're screwed no matter what.

The thread DOES say that "Sleep" is bad and "Work" is good, but what it DOESN'T say is if "Sleep" directly equates to Scum and 'work' directly equates to Town. If that was the fact, it probably would have been stated as such. Instead, it just says that Sleep is bad and Work is good. So I want to know (or at least speculate about) exactly what the Sleepers get to do.

This is ALSO a mini normal, which means things don't change all that much. So there's a high chance that 'sleep' and 'work' equate directly to 'scum' and 'town'.

Now... I'm told that stopping townie discussion about a game, when things are different, is a scummy thing. Care to comment?

[massive_goonery]

12.) Instead of "Town or Mafia" alignments, players have "Work or Sleep" alignments.

[Thestatusquo]

Nai. You're not being wagoned cause you were scummy..

[Thestatusquo]

But because d1 wagons are the only way that town gets i

[Thestatusquo]

nformation at the begining of the game. also

fos:MaGo

[Ripley]

Vote: Nai

I think that not understanding is scummy.

Nai. You're not being wagoned cause you were scummy..

???

[IH]

Ripley, that was obviously a joke.....

[Ripley]

Ripley, that was obviously a joke.....

Which one was the joke?

[IH]

THe not understanding.

[PJ.]

What up, Shea? This is DC from WIFOM. Anyway, I also think Cubsfan is scummy. Okay, game-related content now Ladies, Gentlemen, and IH.

I dislike how Skruffs clearly wrote that Sleep = Mafia and Work=Town in the rules and Nai is still pushing that it doesn't directly say that Sleep can night talk. He then says that in Normal games things don't change all that much(which is true) and that it is highly probable that Sleep is normal mafia. So, when you think that,they are normal mafia and Skruffs writes that they are normal mafia then it's not normal mafia, in a normal mafia game? Your logic doesn't make any sense and that last sentence was very wordy but I can't make it better. It's seems like Nai is trying to find holes that he can wiggles himself into when he needs to fake a claim. Just for some semi relevant information, Nai is an experianced player so this probably isn't something that can be blamed on him being a "new player".

Vote: Nai

for his poor logic and trying to find holes in the system.

[Thestatusquo]

Just a warning: He is now 2 from lynch. claim now please

[Elias_the_thief]

sorry i've been out. camping trip.
im happy with my vote where it is. it seems unusual that Nai is defending his question as much as he is when he could easily have just said "oh, my bad" once he saw where the rules immediately answered his question, and moved on.

[bird1111]

Unvote

, as the game is exiting if not already exited the random voting stage

And would also like to see a Nai claim, not liking the question when as others have said, the answer is clear in the rules.

[TBuG]

Holy SHIT.

Unvote, Vote: massive_goonery; major FoS: Panzerjager

Are you kidding me? Voting this fast by Page 2? Nai's questions make sense, and I myself wonder about their answers.

I voted goonery over Panzer because Panzer actually has substantial reasoning, whereas goonery just seemed to be like "Tra-la-la-la-la, there's room for me to bandwagon."

[Nai]

The rules don't say anything about the question I asked.

On another note, there's no way in hell I'm claiming because of this bandwagon.

[Thestatusquo]

Holy SHIT.

Unvote, Vote: massive_goonery; major FoS: Panzerjager

Are you kidding me? Voting this fast by Page 2? Nai's questions make sense, and I myself wonder about their answers.

I voted goonery over Panzer because Panzer actually has substantial reasoning, whereas goonery just seemed to be like "Tra-la-la-la-la, there's room for me to bandwagon."

PBuG speaks major truthery. I glork many pants......

[CoG888]

Unvote: Thestatusquo
FOS: Sailor Jerry
FOS: trestain

48 hours in guys... lets post something.

[Thestatusquo]

Prodding lurkrs when theres real discusion is scummy