Mini 410 - McDonald's Mafia [Game Over!]

[Amb]

Its day one, and only 3 pages in by the way. I don't expect any bandwagon to be brilliantly conclusive, unless someone outrightly lies and gets caught. THat might happen - but not day one, and doubtful day two either.

So the pete d line is sufficient for now. Experience tells me the first bandwagon on Day 1 almost never gets lynched before it turns on someone else anyway. So Pete D won't be fretting too much yet.

[Amb]

Make that the 4th page

[spectrumvoid]

Vote Count!

Pete D -3 (Glork, Amb, StallingChamp)

StallingChamp- 2 (Frozen Atlantic, pete d)
Amb- 2 (Pink Princess, Omega)
Glork- 1 (blahgo)
DragonsofSummer- 1 (Zarvok)
Zarvok- 1 (DragonsofSummer)

7 to lynch.

(edited by CDB for structure. <3 SV for helping out with vote counts!)

[Pink Princess]

Unvote Amb

I'm not comfortable with those blindly following Glork without even posting discussion or even reasons. Yes, following a bad idea is a worse offense, but blindly following anything still makes me wary.

Glork had some good points, but at this point, I'm not quite convinced it's enough for a vote.

I think we definitely need some more discussion, I feel like there are some who have posted next to nothing thus far.

[Amb]

Thats my point, its difficult to make great points based on posting content etc this early on. Those blindly following Glork (including me) wont have much to add at all. The same goes for those that counter attack the early voters.

So the best tactic is to bandwagon someone and start to see where the chips fall. If that victim is me, Glork, Pete d or anyone else almost doesnt matter. Otherwise how else are we going to trigger conversation.

[Glork]

FoS: Everyone not voting Pete D

Yes, all 9 of you are scums. Die.

[Frozen Atlantic]

You can take that FoS and put it up yer bum, Glorkie.

[Glork]

Where do you think I pulled it out of?

[DeanWinchester]

I'll admit PeteD looks scumie but do you really think you should say we all need to die for not voting PeteD. After the initial snafu over the proxy not really anything post worthy has happened. Everybody is sticking to simple statments with very little context. I think neither pete nor Stalling champ are actually scum and the fact that there is a fair amount of luking going on makes me think the really mafia is staying out of it.

[StallingChamp]

Read Glork's past games. He makes statements like that often to show that he feels someone is scum.

[Amb]

Yes, lynching lurkers can be a good strategy. But.... thats also carries the higher risk of getting your docs and cops outed though, because they often like to lay low during the start of a game.

[DragonsofSummer]

Well since all I'm doing is random voting right now... I might as well move my vote somewhere it is warranted

Unvote, Vote: Pete D

for the same reasons as everyone else stated.

[Zarvok]

Unvote

since we are out of random voting. Sorry I haven't been around - this week has been crazy for me.

Pete d's post looks a little scummy to me, mostly because he misrepresents the facts a little bit, but I don't understand the size of the wagon that immediately developed on him. Could someone explain what makes him so obviously scum? I'm a bit of a newb here, maybe I just don't see it.

Also, Amb's blind following of Glork looks extremely suspicious. Following someone else's vote without suggesting what about their logic you agreed with or even that you thought about the logic behind the vote at all seems scummy.

So,

FOS: Amb, pete d

but I'm not ready to make a vote for either player yet.

[pete d]

the wagon has built because there's really not that much to vote for on a Day 1. It's not about whether someone is "obvious scum", rather the most scummy / most likely to be scum from the small amount of information available to the town on Day 1. Wagons also give the town a chance to examine reactions / posts from players to the wagon etc etc. until something else comes up.

[Glork]

Unvote, Vote: DragonsofSummer
IGMEOY: Pete D

Hunch.

[StallingChamp]

Although I trust Glork, I can't/wom't follow him on a hunch he doesnt explain.

Glork, please give reasoning for your vote if you feel that will be more useful than keeping it secret.

[Glork]

Something about voting for Pete D 4th, after my joke-post about FoSing everyone not voting him, coupled with the "based on everyone else's reasoning" sentiment. Makes me second-guess my Pete D stance based mostly on DoS's post

[StallingChamp]

Hmmm...I see your point, but I'll think on it some more. Of note - this could be DoS deciding to bus Pete D, but wanting to be able to jump off is he thinks he can redirect it.

[Pink Princess]

I didn't like Amb's blind follow, and I like Dragons even less. Especially when you factor in the low participation level up to this point.

Is it me, or is this game crawling?

[Amb]

I think I said this earlier, but the first bandwagoned player is almost never lynched. Therefore a quick but ultimately futile bandwagon on Pete D is of no huge consequence if it then disappears. And if it completes, then we gain a lot of info about where the dice fell etc.

[DragonsofSummer]

I didn't actually even take your joke FoS into account on my vote Glork. I did a reread of the four pages and agreed with the evidence other people had put onto him, and since my vote was random I decided to put it somewhere it was more deserved.

[StallingChamp]

Unvote, Vote: DoS

.

Blind following, Doing what most people are doing, and then acting as if he needed to have his vote somewhere, and just put it there for lack of a better spot.

[Amb]

Now if I turn around then join the DoS bandwagon how will you react?

[Glork]

I'd probably just pull be back and say something like "holy crap, this is one very wagony town."

[Pink Princess]

I think I said this earlier, but the first bandwagoned player is almost never lynched. Therefore a quick but ultimately futile bandwagon on Pete D is of no huge consequence if it then disappears. And if it completes, then we gain a lot of info about where the dice fell etc.

Yes, I know, and I dont find it an offense worthy of my vote or even heavy pursuit. But it is always worth noting in my handy scum busting notebook.