NY 173: Knight-Errant 2 - GAME OVER!

[Bicephalous Bob]

you're not getting a reaction

[beastcharizard]

VOTE: Metal Sonic

Scum lurking by not confirming.

[GreyICE]

you're not getting a reaction

Coaching your scumbuddies already bob?

[burn_209]

This is my first game with a "hydra." What are they and why do people do them? Lol

[Twisted Advice]

*insert violent flailing reaction here*

[Antihero]

This is my first game with a "hydra." What are they and why do people do them? Lol

6 months and you don't know what a hydra is

...what rock have you been living under?

[The Knight-Errant]

Vote Count 1.01

Lords of the Unreal (2) - Turkish Van, MafiaSSK
Twisted Advice (2) - Kublai Khan, Antihero
Turkish Van (1) - notscience
GreyICE (1) - GreyICE
Antihero (1) - Twisted Advice
Bicephalous Bob (1) - jbomber732
Metal Sonic (1) - beastcharizard

Not Voting (9) - Katarina LeBlanc, Metal Sonic, PeregrineV, Lords of the Unreal, Bicephalous Bob, Hopkirk, MonkeyMan576, Guzame, burn_209

18 alive, 10 to lynch. Deadline is set for 3 weeks from now, on April 21st, 2014 at 6:00 p.m., PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-04-21 18:00:00)

[Kublai Khan]

VOTE: GreyICE

[Turkish Van]

VOTE: Metal Sonic

Scum lurking by not confirming.

Hmmmm.

This is my first game with a "hydra." What are they and why do people do them? Lol

Two players in one account who share the same role PM. They are fun and a learning experience.

This is my first game with a "hydra." What are they and why do people do them? Lol

6 months and you don't know what a hydra is

...what rock have you been living under?

A PineApple Under the Sea.

Need to talk to Peng, but starting not to like Bob.~

[Twisted Advice]

VOTE: Turkish Van

[Turkish Van]

Nope.

I'll start spoiling my sigs.

[Metal Sonic]

Confirm

[Katarina LeBlanc]

In this game I am town.

[burn_209]

This is my first game with a "hydra." What are they and why do people do them? Lol

6 months and you don't know what a hydra is

...what rock have you been living under?

Ive been really focused in the games I play. Havent done much forum surfing outside of the games I played in

[Lords of the Unreal]

VOTE: Lords of the Unreal

[notscience]

Hi Burn!

obvtown yourself for me and we can kick some ass

Hydra are two people playing under one slot.

[Kublai Khan]

oh hi mastin

Is this a thing?

Could the asinine "anonymous hydra" reveal their members because it's the most super pro-town thing to do. Refusal to do so and having a town PM is evidence of not playing to win condition.

[Twisted Advice]

We will not be revealing our heads.

We are willing, however, to confirm that neither of us is mastin. Since you'll figure that out pretty fast anyway.

If you'd like us to sign under pseudonyms, I at least would be willing to make that concession.-

Iago
(Jafar has not posted yet)

[notscience]

It's within their right to refuse.

I don't see why metadodging as town is "not playing to wincon" but feel free to explain why.

[Kublai Khan]

I don't see why metadodging as town is "not playing to wincon" but feel free to explain why.

Cons to anonymous hydra-ing as town:
1. The game of "Who is the hydra" distracts from "Who is the scum".
2. Hiding a secret that isn't "I'm scum" creates a false flag no matter how much they don't intend it.
3. Knowing a player's personality helps read them. Town would want other town to read them as town so time and energy isn't wasted.

Pros to anonymous hydra-ing as town:
1. Fucking with people for out-of-game reasons.

BTW - Don't reply for them notscience. Unless you're scum. If you're scum then by all means debate me on this topic and threadshit on the game. I barely tolerate hydras as it is (because I believe it's a form of cheating and goes against the spirit of the game), but anonymous hydras have absolutely no benefit. I really don't care about anyone else's opinion on the subject. I want Twisted Advice to stop playing a stupid non-mafia game inside a mafia game and reveal themselves so we can move forward. Withholding non-role based information as town is playing against win condition.

[Twisted Advice]

I can only pray that my insolent bird has not done too much damage here... Good evening I am Jafar and I apologize for not being here sooner. And I am pleased that this game should already prove to be an interesting one.

I am pleased to note that notscience and GreyICE are very likely town. In addition I like Antihero too but that could just be gut. Iago believes in his gut that burn could also be town, though I am apprehensive to give that read at the present. I would also say that I like Turkish Van for town right now. Unless someone can better explain their case to me, I will proceed with

UNVOTE: Turkish Van

And finally I believe that Kublai Khan is likely to be town here. However there are couple of points to note. There is nothing antitown about us being an anonymous hydra at all. And we are not a distraction. Your 45 is patently untrue.

1) It shouldn't make the game into who is the hydra. It's not important. As my bird has so wisely stated to me, no one is forcing you to make this a distraction. This is all on you. In addition there is always the option for you to not try to play that game. We are a hydra of people with whom you haven't played. This is a hydra between the Royal Vizier and his bird. Those are the two player slots. Just imagine us as players you've never encountered. Problem solved.
2) There is no false flag. I am not hiding anything. Your argument works just as well with alts. Would you say that alts are cheating as well?
3) Perhaps, but there are other reasons that one would prefer to hide his or her meta. Perhaps one of us has been having troubles. Or one of us is trying to diverge from established meta. There is plenty of town motivation

As for there only being motivation to distract people for out of game reasons, that is false. I don't see why you're being so hostile here. We aren't even the only hydra. If you consider it cheating, why are you in a game with so many hydras?

You're simply making things up with regards to us playing non mafia games inside a mafia game. We are not revealing anything apart from the fact that we are Jafar and Iago. It is as simple as that.

Now I feel as though Bob's first posts look too much like an attempt to appear lighthearted and uncaring in RVS. They appear forced.

VOTE: Bob

~The Royal Vizier

[Hopkirk]

45/twisted: "I would also say that I like Turkish Van for town right now. Unless someone can better explain their case to me, I will proceed with"
Please explain this considering they haven't posted anything (of any substance) since you voted them. Also why you voted them in the first place with a belief they were town.

VOTE: Twisted

[Twisted Advice]

Are you reading the thread, Hopkirk? Iago voted Turkish Van because he did not like their 33. I disagreed, saying that I actually did like it, and he was fine moving the vote away from them. Plus Bob is a much better vote anyway.

~The Royal Vizier

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Knight Errant was my first game on this site, as well as the first time I was actually hammered in a mafia game :<

[jbomber732]

Oh so you're in this game sometimes mala?