Patrick wrote:Yeah I know the definition of false dilemna. I just don't see how that is one. Maybe at worst you could say there are other possibilities that are slightly different, but I don't see any intentional deceit by Falcone, and in fact I think it's most likely to be a mixture of the two he gave. If Shadowlurker did have some other reason, then why not give it to us there and then?
Those are truly the only two possibilities you can see? What about the possibility that ShadowLurker thinks Falcone is scum?Falcone wrote:Is it because I used the first thing that was remotely interesting to try and start a discussion, or just because I voted you?
Those were honestly the only two possibilities that came to my mind when I read the one line explanation for your vote. My comment was meant more as an invitation to explain your vote than anything else, but if you want to read a false dilemma into it, be my guest.ShadowLurker wrote:nice false dilemma
good defense kilmenator, i'll leave u alone for nowkilmenator wrote:ok, without much to go on in the first few pages. The person I find most scummy at this point is Shadow Lurker. She seems much to defensive with just one vote on her. So for right now I willVote: ShadowLurker.Still watching this game, along with my others.
You "killmenator" people at night, don't you?killmenator wrote:ok, without much to go on in the first few pages. The person I find most scummy at this point is Shadow Lurker. She seems much to defensive with just one vote on her. So for right now I will Vote: ShadowLurker. Still watching this game, along with my others.
I thought ShadowLurker was joking. I mean I don't even see what it was defending againstgeraintm wrote:This is my first game outside newbie land, so going from 7 to 12 people makes it harder to follow, too many voices.
Found it odd that Turbo and Shadow got such different reads on killmenator's post. One saying it was a good defence, the other using it to point a finger. One has to be wrong, don't they?
Well yes and no. I understand the value of wagons, of votes that spark them etc and I do think there's a good chance of finding scum (especially inexperienced scum) on a pattern of wagons, but just as your argument is that you're town using wagons to try to catch scum, there's an equal case for you being the scum that is on those wagons, non?Rosso Carne wrote:mert, ill be honest. i want to be on the biggest wagon possible.
that makes reactions.
thats how mafia works.
youve played games, you know that this is how mafia works.
bad coin:mert
The thing is, I think it is made too easy for players to hide behind their playstyle sometimes. I take each game as it comes, to be honest. I've been in a game with Rosso before and he played a similar style to this, but not exactly. But yeah, I have my eyes peeled but I'm not saying he's definitely scum at this point or anything.Patrick wrote:It's just how Rosso plays.
If you say so mate. You call it freaking out, I call it mentioning my concerns. I'm sure we can move past it all, especially since my post was basically nothing more than an IGMEOY...Rosso Carne wrote:my point is tht you freaked out over a couple votes.
Mert wrote:Hmmm, I'm concerned by Rosso at the moment. He voted Turbo just after I did with very little reason and has since jumped onto the other guy with two votes (Sotty). I'm keeping my eye on him for the time being.
Rosso Carne wrote:mert, ill be honest. i want to be on the biggest wagon possible.
that makes reactions.
thats how mafia works.
youve played games, you know that this is how mafia works.
bad coin:mert
Mert wrote:Well yes and no. I understand the value of wagons, of votes that spark them etc and I do think there's a good chance of finding scum (especially inexperienced scum) on a pattern of wagons, but just as your argument is that you're town using wagons to try to catch scum, there's an equal case for you being the scum that is on those wagons, non?Rosso Carne wrote:mert, ill be honest. i want to be on the biggest wagon possible.
that makes reactions.
thats how mafia works.
youve played games, you know that this is how mafia works.
bad coin:mert
Rosso Carne wrote:well when it gets to lynch-1 quickly and i get off and bear down hard on the -1 voter, youll know im town.
Mert wrote:The thing is, I think it is made too easy for players to hide behind their playstyle sometimes. I take each game as it comes, to be honest. I've been in a game with Rosso before and he played a similar style to this, but not exactly. But yeah, I have my eyes peeled but I'm not saying he's definitely scum at this point or anything.Patrick wrote:It's just how Rosso plays.
Rosso Carne wrote:my point is tht you freaked out over a couple votes.
no one is in danger
w.t.f.Mert wrote:If you say so mate. You call it freaking out, I call it mentioning my concerns. I'm sure we can move past it all, especially since my post was basically nothing more than an IGMEOY...Rosso Carne wrote:my point is tht you freaked out over a couple votes.
w.t.f.w.t.fx4Ozymandius wrote:I'm here. Do you have a problem with me ShadowLurker?
I'm still trying to sort out what the situation is, and right now, I don't have much time, I'll be back later.
