Mini 365- Thinking Mafia - Game Over!

[Pink Princess]

(Baby is me, by the way. Scumchat name.)

I'm relatively convinced by omg at this point. I'm willing to buy newbie/misunderstanding. His explanations strike me as genuine.

Also, ces...IGMEOY. You seem to be liking bandwagons a lot this game, which is a little odd to me.

To save me the trouble of metagaming, is the bandwagon madness not normal CES play?

Lowell's last post bothers me. I'd like to hear more out of him.

[Arafax]

And, at this point, it's pretty clear arafax is scum. He's jumped on wagons extremely uncharactaristicly and seriously, baby needs to stayin this game. The attacks are really unfounded and assinine, but you try and throw craplogic out there anyway. That reeeeeeeeeally worries me, even this early.

Rosso, please show me which wagon I jumped on....Please explain to me the craplogic that I used.

In other news, I'm not sure how I feel about omg yet...I'll keep my eye on him, but I'm going to take a look at Lowell for now.

[Elias_the_thief]

i still find omg to be the most scummy. ill keep my vote where it is. but im kind of suspicious of lowell. his post didnt seem right.

[bloojay]

Also, ces...IGMEOY. You seem to be liking bandwagons a lot this game, which is a little odd to me.

To save me the trouble of metagaming, is the bandwagon madness not normal CES play?

I dunno, is it? I've never played a game with him.

Also, to OMG: Actually, you did basically say that you thought he was scum.

i thought mert was acting the most like a mafioso

in addition, you say this:

i thought we were playing a game where the person with the most votes would be lynched after 24 hours. as such i tried to lead a lynching on the person i found most suspicious (you)... so a complete random didnt get lynched day 1. thats just how i roll

And yet, your vote of Mert originally was completely random, seeing as "having an avatar that frightens me a little" can't possibly be a good, strong reason to lynch someone. And it is for these reasons that I continue to vote for you. In my mind, your defense just isn't cutting it for me.

[Arafax]

MOD

...I checked the game earlier this evening and there was a post by Pink Princess that seems to be missing....I remember it distinctly because I had to read it 3 times to understand what her post said.

Any idea what happened?...Thanks!

[RandomActs]

MOD

...I checked the game earlier this evening and there was a post by Pink Princess that seems to be missing....I remember it distinctly because I had to read it 3 times to understand what her post said.

Any idea what happened?...Thanks!

So if you read it 3 times you should have a good idea what it said? Why not relate it to the rest of us?

[Pink Princess]

Yeah, my post is totally missing. I can re-post a similar post after this one, for all who are interested.

For this post, however, I'll mention that I posted this missing post around 5:00 pm (EST). Not only is my post gone, bloojay's post, (which was right above mine) - the one I was responding to and quoted in my post - is also gone. Something wierd happened here.

[bloojay]

Yeah, my post is totally missing. I can re-post a similar post after this one, for all who are interested.

For this post, however, I'll mention that I posted this missing post around 5:00 pm (EST). Not only is my post gone, bloojay's post, (which was right above mine) - the one I was responding to and quoted in my post - is also gone. Something wierd happened here.

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yeah, I noticed that too. but thankfully, i was able to basically re-create mine.

[Pink Princess]

The missing post, as close as I can get it the the original:

The first quote is quoted from bloojay's 9:00 post, but it was was also in bloojay's missing post, only it was worded "I don't know, I have never played with CES, is it?"

Start of post -

I dunno, is it? I've never played a game with him.

Oh, I misread you earlier in the game.

Also, ces...IGMEOY. You seem to be liking bandwagons a lot this game, which is a little odd to me.

I thought you were saying it was odd because it was out of character for CES. You were just saying it's odd. Got it.

Blast. I thought I had a lead...
End of post.

That's all. Nothing really of consequence.

[Pink Princess]

yeah, I noticed that too. but thankfully, i was able to basically re-create mine.

Yeah, apparently it's happening in other games too...wild.

[omg_im_innocent_wtf]

And yet, your vote of Mert originally was completely random, seeing as "having an avatar that frightens me a little" can't possibly be a good, strong reason to lynch someone. And it is for these reasons that I continue to vote for you. In my mind, your defense just isn't cutting it for me.

oh ffs

im not responding to you again until you bother to read my posts.

im changing my vote to you, not only because i think you are scum, but because having someone in the game who cant even be bothered to read 5 pages of posts is only going to be bad for the village.

unvote

,

vote bloo

[Mert]

Yes, to be fair to OMG he was not the one who random voted me for having a scary avatar - that was Lowell.

He did hop on the bandwagon though after I responded to Lowell's "scary avatar" post and has been a bit strange the whole game, really. I still think some of the things he has said have been fairly scummy (the WIFOM post is certainly the strangest, but could just be newbishness) but his reason for voting me wasn't that I had a scary avatar but that I was "too friendly" (presumably in my vote on RA).

I still don't fully understand why, even in a timed game, I looked the most like scum at the point in which he voted for me, so if he could expand on his reasoning it'd be much appreciated.

With regard to CES's bandwagon hopping, I don't think it's particularly indicative of scumminess just yet. When I first read a few games I thought random voting achieved nothing as everyone knows it's a random vote and so it doesn't draw any useful reactions. Then I realised that it's not the random votes themselves but the bandwagon votes that follow that truly begin to give you a picture of what's going on.

Having said that, I do want CES to post some analysis or comment at some point as I think it'd be a pretty bad idea to go into Night One without having anything substancial from him to refer to.

Arafax's response to my post about him trying hard didn't sit terribly well with me... just because it's the early part of the game and there's not much danger of a lynching yet doesn't mean that it wouldn't be better for us to have a full explanation of why you're moving your vote from x to y. Some of your logic when saying you find someone suspicious or when voting for them has seemed odd or incomplete to me.

[Arafax]

At this point I'm not sure of omg_im_innocent_wtf....He still seems scummy and the scummy behavior can be attributed to being a noob, but I know that noobers can be decent scum at times.

I'm going to

Vote Lowell

for two reasons:
1. He has only posted twice the entire game.
2. His only post that wasn't a random vote (#85) screams scumminess to me.

[Mert]

2. His only post that wasn't a random vote (#85) screams scumminess to me.

I'm not saying his post is not scummy necessarily, but what is it that

makes

it scream of scumminess to you?

[Arafax]

I'm not saying his post is not scummy necessarily, but what is it that makes it scream of scumminess to you?

1. He used the word "villagers" in his post...I'm not sure why he is using that phrase but the only other person to refer to "villagers" in the game is omg_im_innocent_wtf (post #51). Scum partners?....I'm already suspicious of omg, so it's scummy.

2. He accused Colonel Kurtz of being scummy because he was lurking...Lowell went on to say that he himself was lurking....That's called craplogic.

3. He also said that he was lurking because of the grammer debate issue...While that would be fine if the debate has lasted an extensive period of time, there were only a few posts on it....Why wouldn't he post about the other posts in the game...This IMO is a poor defese for his lurking.

That is why I'm voting Lowell.

[Mert]

Cool, thanks for that, Arafax. I'd say I'll have a look through his posts and give my own evaluation but... well, there's not very much to go on is there?

Lowell, what do you think of Arafax's allegations?

[Elias_the_thief]

good points arafax. in addition to them, i'm willing to move to lynch becuase he's making the game stagnant, by only posting twice. FOS on omg, but for now

unvote, vote: lowell

[vikingfan]

Vote Count:

Colonel Kurtz- 2 (Lowell, Cogito Ergo Sum)
Lowell- 2 (Arafax, Elias_the_thief)
omg_im_innocent_wtf- 2 (bloojay, RandomActs)
Arafax- 1 (Rosso Carne)
bloojay- 1 (omg_im_innocent_wtf)
Mert- 1 (Twomz)

Not voting (3): Colonel Kurtz, Mert, Pink Princess

7 to lynch.

Yeah, I know about the missing posts- not much I can do about it though.

[Pink Princess]

Elias, you seem to follow whatever wagon is happening at the time. You followed on the omg wagon (twice, I think), and now the Lowell wagon. Seems a bit shady. Please comment.

[Arafax]

Lowell, what do you think of Arafax's allegations?

I was hoping that Lowell would reply to you too...I mean he just posted in another game about half an hour ago...Maybe he thinks that we're still discussing the grammar issue and doesn't have anything to post.

Confirm vote Lowell

[Elias_the_thief]

i actually was the second to vote on him both times. making the vote count two does not constitute jumping on a wagon. the vote directly after mine, in which cogito applied the third vote without any explanation is a fishy vote. mine was not. cogito ergo scum's vote stuck around until the second omg wagon, in which i was the second vote. my vote was totally unconnected to cogito's, so in essance, i started the second wagon on omg. my vote on lowell is becuase arafax makes good points, and to get him to talk, since he's posted a grand total of twice.

[Pink Princess]

i actually was the second to vote on him both times. making the vote count two does not constitute jumping on a wagon.

Slight correction. On the first omg wagon, you were the third vote.

Anyway, I didn't mean to accuse you of jumping on wagons necessarily, I meant to say that I get the impression of you following other's suspicions instead of having your own. That's what I'm curious about. Although, I do notice that you pointed out Colonel's lurking as an orignal point, so maybe my impession is weak.

[Rosso Carne]

arafax, lurkerhunting and reaching for scumminess: umm, die scum.

[Arafax]

arafax, lurkerhunting and reaching for scumminess: umm, die scum.

So, are you saying that it's okay for people to post in other games and not in this game when they have posted a whooping two times in the entire game?

[Rosso Carne]

to a point yes. i do that when theres nothing to talk about.

lurkerhunting is not only rude, it doesnt get us any closer to finding scum. theres plenty of people acting scummy now {although i wouldnt advise voting yourself, that would be stupid}