I'm sorry, seriously meta me and look at my day 1. I hate day one and i generally get all of crap-all accomplished on day 1, special setup mechanics aside.
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In post 78, Venrob wrote:I'm sorry, seriously meta me and look at my day 1. I hate day one and i generally get all of crap-all accomplished on day 1, special setup mechanics aside.
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Okay,
Vote: Albert B. Rampage
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You asked me to vote someone.
Do you have a reason to do so or is this really just a vote to have a vote out?
Also, @Taco, why didn't you have anything to say about the Venrob situation except for "calm down bro"?
Venrob is probably town. Those who pushed for him though needs to be looked into. I find that wagon opportunistic. I can see one fairly obvious scum on his wagon though, but I will keep it to myself for now. I’d rather see if the rest of you can see it as well.
Also UNVOTE: That vote and reasoning was only to get reactions, but I got none.
Actually, I don't think anyone would have anticipated Venrob to react so violently to being pushed to L-2, given how rare it is that anyone gets lynched on page 3. Bandwagoning early is a town move.
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
Absolutely, it is. You're not going to get information without there being real stakes on the table.
It seems like you expect scum to magically slip that they have information the rest of us don't. That rarely happens. Town usually lynches someone they think will give them more information on the game, someone they have a gut read on, or settle for a policy lynch. Worse case scenario, they deadline lynch someone at random.
Without the backing of votes or the pressure of deadline, you can't figure out who the scum is. It's easy to distance from a buddy if you think they're safe from being lynched, either because it's too early, or because the other players in the game think that your buddy is town.
You may have been forced to claim, but that took a few votes off of you and now you have players like me who think you're town, thanks to the bandwagon that built on you. Bandwagons generate information, wallposting and pointing out contradictions or technicalities don't. Town contradict themselves, change their reads, do anti-town things for the wrong reason all the time. It's only after a few flips that you get to put the pieces of the puzzle together.
TL;DR
8/10 would wagon again
Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.
I don't want to play the whole game with YOU GUYS AREN'T LISTENING TO ME I'M A VANILLA TOWNIE WAH WAH V/LA FINE GO AHEAD HAMMER ME I GIVE UP
and did anyone else see this:
In post 57, Venrob wrote:Anyway, setup stuff; there is a small trick to the setup. If scum pick 2 roles and do not recruit (either 2 +daytalk or just 2) then goon cop is useless and gets same result on everyone. By choosing daytalk aswell there is a better chance of giving town the useless goon cop. If i were scum Id prob do this.
rolefishing to find out how the goon cop works?
idk, I'm just saying don't write him off as town just because of his little meltdown
@ Bard: this early in the game, bandwagoning isn't a serious tell
I think I'm going to VOTE: RedCoyote.
Tell me, how did you get from "go ahead and lynch Venrob he's anti-town regardless of alignment" to "nope he's genuine imma vote someone for getting rid of an RVS vote" in under an hour?
I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.
VOTE: anorway
Just seems to me like you're either trying to protect Venrob if hes scum or just bide time for something scummy.
Just doesn't smell right.
In post 84, Umbrage wrote:rolefishing to find out how the goon cop works?
All the role pms are in post 3...
I don't like Formerfish calling for a hammer, particularly when his reason is that Venrob was being a "prima donna," which is not related to alignment. UNVOTE: VOTE: Formerfish.
First we had the legs race. Then we had the arms race. Now we're going to have the brain race. And, if we're lucky, the final stage will be the human race.
Blow me. My call for a hammer was due to the ate and the self vote. I'm sick and tired of playing with people who think that is a legit way to play. You vote yourself and I will be more than happy to see you hang.
In post 92, Desperado wrote:I don't like that we stopped lynching Ven because his reaction "looked genuine" even though it was like his 4th reaction to what had happened.
And Venrob's flipout seems more angry than upset, which is a scum reaction.
Hell, the more I think about it, the more I think my gut is right.
VOTE: Venrob
It's the speed that worries me. Players usually only lose their cool like that after a fair bit of pressure. They have to get pushed to that point. Venrob was ready to pull the claim/self-vote card right from the get-go.
In post 85, Venrob wrote:RedCoyote, remind me never to play 2 games at once with you. It's getting confusing!
Buddy? Anyone?
I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.
I don't get that angry unless I'm being lynched... Oh, say on page 3. Then i get that angry regardless alignment. As scum, save for an early lynch like that, i tend to get more flustered than frustrated. For instance, see Open 428: Double Day Unlimited. My first completed game, and a scum game. Near the end i got a bit overeager and am surprised i still won, but absta was an idiot that game....
Or just check my wiki for any of my games up to the time of my wiki ban (which ends this month!!! Yay!!!!)
Umbrage, that last quote was non-game related. I have to read him in both games, which is surprisingly confusing. Of course to explain it i would have to go into more detail, which breaks the ongoing game rule..... And as such, I believe that is useless as cannot be explained without breaking site rules.
In post 96, Umbrage wrote:*snip*It's the speed that worries me. Players usually only lose their cool like that after a fair bit of pressure. They have to get pushed to that point. Venrob was ready to pull the claim/self-vote card right from the get-go.*snip*
*cough**cough*
Not when they have anger issues IRL
*cough**cough*
Speaking of which, it has come to my attention that i havent mentioned something this game.... Let me get some quotes.
I have Aspergers Syndrome, a type of autism. I have mentioned this before due to the fact that it changes how people read me.
In post 61, Venrob wrote:Not meta, just scummy. In one game a cheating mod had me replaced before 48 hours to respond to prod and he replaced me (470). Got back in cuz mod cheated, and that is town meta anyway. Self-voting means Jester or scum imo. Thus my vote.
Also about me: Just so you read me more accurately, I have a type of autism reffered to as aspergers. I play a bit oddly, so check my meta before reading me too in-depth. Check my wiki for my meta.
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I just logged on for first time since i confirmed... A game or 2 ago i first logged on at 7 pages and wasnt the last to post anything other than 'hey im here [insert RVS vote]
fluff'
And now i get on at page 3 and get voted for lurking? I'd vote you if not for having no reason other than omgus. Well, no SOLID reason...
Now, think about that when you try to read me. See what difference it makes.
In post 74, RedCoyote wrote:
VOTE: anorway for 66. What prompted this? Also, if you really thought that the Venrob wagon was careless, why did you not vote someone that was on it?
RVS was already over by then, and I prefer to unvote my RVS votes.
I don't really think it was careless - I just think it went too fast. I felt there was a real threat that someone would hammer, and we would be left with not really much information when Day 2 starts, regardless of how Venrob would have flipped. We have three weeks to lynch, and I want to use as much of that time as necessary. And voting someone on the wagon would be practically a random choice to me, since I use a lot of time before establishing any town or scumreads. That being said, I think TvK and Umbrage are town, though.
In post 97, Venrob wrote:I don't get that angry unless I'm being lynched... Oh, say on page 3.
Then i get that angry regardless alignment.
As scum, save for an early lynch like that, i tend to get more flustered than frustrated. For instance, see Open 428: Double Day Unlimited. My first completed game, and a scum game. Near the end i got a bit overeager and am surprised i still won, but absta was an idiot that game....
Strange how you point out yourself that it is very much possible that you would have the same reaction as scum...
In post 61, Venrob wrote:Not meta, just scummy. In one game a cheating mod had me replaced before 48 hours to respond to prod and he replaced me (470). Got back in cuz mod cheated, and that is town meta anyway.
Self-voting means Jester or scum imo.
Thus my vote.
This is probably totally unrelated to what you're trying to explain about your aspergers, but you still say this about self-voting. Do tell me, how can we believe that you are town if you call self-voting scummy yourself? And please don't use your autism as an excuse to contradict yourself.
