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Players that look scummy can also turn out to be town. There isn't really a difference in that regard, just that the dynamic is different.In post 69, Kublai Khan wrote:
All those things I mentioned: done by town hydras.In post 64, Zachrulez wrote:I always get a kick when people complain about the distracting baggage of hydras, and most of the things are things I have refined into hydra scum tells.
I've yet to see hydras drastically affect the balance of a game. I can point you to games where Sotty and I being in a hydra was not enough to tip the game in our favor in the end.In post 69, Kublai Khan wrote:
It is a sign that the mods involved don't particularly care about the balance of their game.In post 64, Zachrulez wrote:Also a mod allowing hydras into a game is explicitly saying it's not cheating.
I'm not sure how you can argue for their removal from theme games, especially given that the mod might want to specifically use that aspect for a game, and have in the past.In post 69, Kublai Khan wrote:
I'm 100% with you that hydras shouldn't be in normal games. I just want to take it a step further.In post 64, Zachrulez wrote:This thread is meant to be about whether they should be considered normal though.-
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All I know is, KK can PM me the next time he is modding a game.
As a sidenote, having actually played in a KK game before, it was one of my more memorable (if depressing) games on the site.
As another sidenote, is it just me or is this smiley a little off?
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Don't disagree. Both my point is that all the hydra babbage is alignment independent. So having one slots in the game with multiple personalities means that there is 2-3 times more work for the other players.In post 77, Zachrulez wrote:
Players that look scummy can also turn out to be town. There isn't really a difference in that regard, just that the dynamic is different.In post 69, Kublai Khan wrote:
All those things I mentioned: done by town hydras.In post 64, Zachrulez wrote:I always get a kick when people complain about the distracting baggage of hydras, and most of the things are things I have refined into hydra scum tells.
I have no problem with hydras being a special attraction that fit in with a mod's vision. I am annoyed at the rash of "/in with a hydra, let me go find someone to hydra with" stuff in sign-ins.In post 77, Zachrulez wrote:
I'm not sure how you can argue for their removal from theme games, especially given that the mod might want to specifically use that aspect for a game, and have in the past.In post 69, Kublai Khan wrote:
I'm 100% with you that hydras shouldn't be in normal games. I just want to take it a step further.In post 64, Zachrulez wrote:This thread is meant to be about whether they should be considered normal though.Occasionally intellectually honest
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Did you win that one? I forget....In post 78, RedCoyote wrote:All I know is, KK can PM me the next time he is modding a game.
As a sidenote, having actually played in a KK game before, it was one of my more memorable (if depressing) games on the site.
Could be worse. Could have been 2 bricks walls.In post 79, Zachrulez wrote:It's funny, but I've only played in one KK game, and it was also memorable and depressing. (If you've ever tried to argue with a brick wall before that's what the game was like.)
Well, obviously you're the hero that mafiascum wants!In post 80, SpyreX wrote:KK, not the hero mafiascum wants, but the one mafiascum needs.
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It was. I think maybe even more than two.In post 82, Kublai Khan wrote:
Could be worse. Could have been 2 bricks walls.In post 79, Zachrulez wrote:It's funny, but I've only played in one KK game, and it was also memorable and depressing. (If you've ever tried to argue with a brick wall before that's what the game was like.)-
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at who's expense?
Idk, it took some time for me to come to a conclusion on hydra's, but I don't think I like hydra's in games. Personally in games I've got trouble dealing with them, but that shouldn't be the argument.
I get that people have fun playing together with someone they like. I just don't know if it's worth the trouble this causes on games now and then. That starts with hydra's slowing the game down because they have to find a time to talk to the other head, in thread dissonance, generally the near immunity to meta tells as their motivations are obscured. Hydra's change the game quite fundamentaly, as already some complaints in this thread showed.
Is it so much more fun to play on one slot in stead of two together in one game, that the rest of the game has to deal with the fact that you can communicate outside the thread while the rest can't?Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.-
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By the by, this was just because I had my zoom at 75%. I know you were all dying to know.In post 78, RedCoyote wrote:As another sidenote, is it just me or is this smiley a little off?
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To play and cooperate with another player without chancing being on opposite sides.In post 93, burn_209 wrote:What exactly is the point of a hydra....Im still unclearBulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.- Nachomamma8, Maniacal Street Mafia
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Hydras are technically normal. They don't have anything to do with role interactions or voting mechanisms or anything.
You can think they suck in general, I think they suck in general, but there's not really a valid line of reason to ban them in normals and not themes."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Creating a rule prohibiting hydras in Large Normal games carries the potential of reinvigorating that sub-forum.
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