Open 530 "WSoB" (Stack the Deck): GAME OVER

[JacobSavage]

Hi prod recieved, will post tonight.

[yabbaguy]

Vote Count 2.4

10 alive, 6 to lynch

thenewearth (4): Ankamius, Hiraki, Brian Skies, Alduskkel
Sakura Hana (4): EspeciallyTheLies, InflatablePie, thenewearth, DoctorEagle
DoctorEagle (1): Sakura Hana

Not Voting: JacobSavage

Deadline: October 15, 9 PM EDT ((expired on 2013-10-15 21:00:00))
Still Prodding: Ankamius

[Sakura Hana]

A+ for the

quick

flip flop on the pieguy wagon.

Come on, you already know i flip flop a lot, besides there's like 30+ posts difference that's a little more than a page.

Now youre just building towards any wagon that goes to you at this point.

Sure, so?

I actually just love the fact that me NOT being here because I was V/LA for two weeks, it was site wide btw, means that I am avoiding you.

Well you never said that you were V/LA until that one post you made, and you supposedly were already back when you made it, it's not like I go stalking your main account to see if you have a V/LA tag or not.

Actually, I just love the fact that we hydra'd and you know exactly how we went and disagreed with reads, which explains BE not voting for you, yet somehow when it comes to a situation elsewhere, youre quick to call scum on it.

I'm not calling you out for disagreeing with reads, why bring this up?

[thenewearth]

@Mod: Requesting replacement

Finals next week.

I'm only keeping slow and small games now

and this is considered fast for me

[Hiraki]

Really? Why? In that situation, I'd rather have a no lynch, and I expressed it as such.

You should've been more vocal. I'm wrong, I thought there were 13 people in this game. With 12 people, there's a decent chance of 3 scum. The odds still work out well if there are 2 scum. We can right this wrong though if we NL though. I don't like your reasoning for NLing but that's you and not me.

Unvote, Vote: NL

That being said, we should continue to keep talking.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I dont understand what info we gain from no lynch if we find scum???

[Alduskkel]

Vote Hiraki

.

I refuse to believe that this is town behavior. Am I really supposed to believe you a) don't know how many scum are in this OPEN setup and b) have determined that NOW is the opportune time for a no lynch?

[InflatablePie]

aldusk, your questions/reaction to me were making me lean town on you but then you had to make that dumb Hiraki vote. that reasoning sucks

I'll answer those questions when I'm not on my phone at work btw

[Alduskkel]

Uh, I already thought Hiraki was scummy before. This just adds to it.

Anyway, how about you wait around for Hiraki to defend himself before you defend him.

[InflatablePie]

... hence why I'm not elaborating yet on why that post is bad

[InflatablePie]

ps don't tell me what to do you're not my mom

[Alduskkel]

Don't use that tone of voice with me young man.

[InflatablePie]

I'm sorry mommy please don't grab the belt again I'll be a good boy I promise

[Alduskkel]

Just wait until your father gets home!

[yabbaguy]

Searching for the new thenewearth.

[Hiraki]

Am I really supposed to believe you a) don't know how many scum are in this OPEN setup

Whooptedoo I made a mistake on one part of the setup and now realize that my theorizing is not needed.

Unvote, Vote: Adusskel

and b) have determined that NOW is the opportune time for a no lynch?

Considering that under those circumstances we'd need to use it now unless you wanted to NL on N3.

If making a mistake is not town behavior to you, then I think you're in your own league.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

NL on

N3

.

Concerned with doing things at night... ? Most mistakes are not alignment indicative. However, some mistakes, like this one, are scumslips.

ISOing Hiraki; be back shortly.

[JacobSavage]

Really? How is that a scumslip?

[InflatablePie]

Why do you ask, by the way? And why do you ask me in particular?

Also, don't you think it's a problem to be so wishy-washy? (re: my 429)

Since typically scum like to lynch town, had you responded "no, the wagon could not have been 100% towndriven" I would have followed up by asking you the most likely scum then, because you think Sakura is town.

do you think it's unreasonable to lynch from the pieguy wagon first? or do you think it's more strategic to lynch off the wagon first?

and I can see if people have a problem with me being a bit back-and-forth but I don't really care so yeah.

[InflatablePie]

hmm.

unvote
vote ETL

[Alduskkel]

@Hiraki: Please respond to 451.

Also, I would rather no lynch later rather than sooner, since a lot of roles in this game can utilize the extra player (a vigilante will be able to kill without costing a lynch, a roleblocker will be able to stop a kill and grant us an extra lynch).

I will see what ETL comes up with and then I'll see if I want to pursue this conversation. IP's vote isn't a bad one, though.

@IP: I don't care about wagon analysis right now. When more players have flipped I'll consider it. What I care about is who is acting scummy.

It's not really about who was on what wagon at this point, it's about why they were on that wagon. People on wagons for shitty reasons are more likely to be scum.

[InflatablePie]

well Sakura was on the pieguy wagon and her reasoning was shit yet you still think she's town. just sayin'.

actually, Sakura brought JS from L-1 to L-2, bringing pieguy to L-2. eagle switched to put him at L-1, ETL unvoted Jacob, and Ank hammered.

I need to sit down and think a bit harder about how this wagon switched over actually. although it may need to wait for another flip...

[DoctorEagle]

Hiraki, it's still a townread, it doesn't matter if it's Day 7 or Day 1. I want you to explain it.

@493, eh, it's a very, very minor scumslip.

I would be voting Hiraki, but DP has stuff to do with Sakura.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I agree DE. My townread on Hiraki still stands after the ISO for other reasons. To be honest, I need to look at some of what aldu has said about him cuz I'm dense.

[yabbaguy]

Bumping VC to next page.