Stoofer's 2nd Law

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Stoofer's 2nd Law

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:57 am

Post by Mr Stoofer »

states:

As a discussion in the Mafia Discussion Forum grows longer, the probability of someone voting for someone else in the thread approaches 1
.

It happened a couple of days ago in Yo
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and is getting out of hand there. It has just happened in
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::edit:: Turbovolver has pointed out that Stoofer's 1st Law is actually something else, so I have renamed this law Stoofer's 2nd Law.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:05 am

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Vote: Stoofer
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*sigh* Couldn't resist.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:07 am

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Mr Stoofer wrote:Stoofer's Law states:

As a discussion in the Mafia Discussion Forum grows longer, the probability of someone voting for someone else in the thread approaches 1
.

It happened a couple of days ago in Yo
u know you have been playing too much Mafia when...
and is getting out of hand there. It has just happened in
Mafia Tells
.
You'd have to have the mind of Hitler or something to think that kind of law up!
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:10 am

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:wink: at Aelyn for spotting my inspiration!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:21 am

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it took spam off a long time...

but it wasa a mish mash
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:05 am

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As something on any thread or a combination of threads happens more often, the probability of someone making a new thread "inspired" by this "something" approaches 1.

qed
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:20 am

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I don't think thats limited to this forum, I think it occurs anywhere where the density of mafia players is above a certain (low) critical threshold, say, 1 mafia player per 10 active users?
I guess this should change now ¬_¬
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:34 am

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^^ Yea...that's weirdly true...
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:25 pm

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I guess the stoofer equation is:

P = 1 - 1/n

Where P is the probability of a vote, and n is number of posts.

(waits for someone to make a thread with a vote on the first post to screw me over)
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:31 pm

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What does this say about the voters, are they more lkely to be scum in life?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:47 pm

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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:58 pm

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warpdragon wrote:Godwin?
See Aelyn's post 2.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:12 pm

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According to Godwin's law this discussionwas over in post three. According to common sense there was really nothing else to say after that anyway.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:17 pm

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Oh, but there is. Let's bring up another of Stoofer's Laws, if I may:

In a C9 game, a townie lynch on day one will have both scum on the lynchwagon.

He brought it up in a game I was in with him, and if we believe his statistics it has like an 80% success rate (sample size: 8 or so). The reason I put it out there is to see if other people have found it to be true or untrue in their experience.


It is OK that I say this, right Mr. Stoofer? I mean it's already sort of public knowledge when you posted it up in our game. If not, sorry :oops:
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:20 pm

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If the game is still continuing, then I'd advise you leaving discussion at that post, and picking up conversation after the game has ended.

But what do I know? I'm but a meager game show host...

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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:16 pm

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Turbovolver wrote:Oh, but there is. Let's bring up another of Stoofer's Laws, if I may:

In a C9 game, a townie lynch on day one will have both scum on the lynchwagon.

He brought it up in a game I was in with him, and if we believe his statistics it has like an 80% success rate (sample size: 8 or so). The reason I put it out there is to see if other people have found it to be true or untrue in their experience.


It is OK that I say this, right Mr. Stoofer? I mean it's already sort of public knowledge when you posted it up in our game. If not, sorry :oops:
Check the five-year invitational. A townie was lynched day one, yet no scum were on the wagon.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:06 pm

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Jeff Probst wrote:If the game is still continuing, then I'd advise you leaving discussion at that post, and picking up conversation after the game has ended.
Your name is awesome.

But no, the game is finished. I just wasn't sure if Mr Stoofer wanted his secrets revealed....
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:38 pm

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Turbovolver wrote:Oh, but there is. Let's bring up another of Stoofer's Laws, if I may:

In a C9 game, a townie lynch on day one will have both scum on the lynchwagon.
As one can see in the finally concluded Mini 257, this is true even when Stoofer is scum.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:19 pm

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Turbovolver wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:If the game is still continuing, then I'd advise you leaving discussion at that post, and picking up conversation after the game has ended.

Your name is awesome.


But no, the game is finished. I just wasn't sure if Mr Stoofer wanted his secrets revealed....
Thanks - be sure to check out the even more awesome game starting soon.

Who cares what Stoof thinks... according to some, he smells of wee wee. :?

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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:30 pm

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raj's law.

raj is always right.

raj shouldnt be lynched.

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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:32 pm

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Turbovolver wrote:Oh, but there is. Let's bring up another of Stoofer's Laws, if I may:

In a C9 game, a townie lynch on day one will have both scum on the lynchwagon.

He brought it up in a game I was in with him, and if we believe his statistics it has like an 80% success rate (sample size: 8 or so). The reason I put it out there is to see if other people have found it to be true or untrue in their experience.

It is OK that I say this, right Mr. Stoofer? I mean it's already sort of public knowledge when you posted it up in our game. If not, sorry :oops:
Turbovolver is quite right, This ought to be Stoofer's 1st Law in fact, since I have been propounding this for some time.

Note it only applies to C9 games, and therefore wouldn't apply to the invitational.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:12 am

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rajrhcpfreak wrote:raj's law.

raj is always right.

raj shouldnt be lynched.

you must love raj.
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For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:59 am

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It's very comprehensible:
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:06 am

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vote: bigAl
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:49 am

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Stewie wrote:I guess the stoofer equation is:

P = 1 - 1/n

Where P is the probability of a vote, and n is number of posts.

(waits for someone to make a thread with a vote on the first post to screw me over)
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