Mini 255 - RajÔÇÖs Freaktown I (The Beginning)- GAMEOVER

[rajrhcpfreak]

NIGHT 2

Andy starts to franticly search...
"I have to find him...."
"We will all die if we don't escape..."
"Hello Mr. Shadow Man. You look like a good person to ask tonight."
"What?" the Shadow Man asks.
"Are you Alex?" Andy Asks hopefully.
"Why?"
"Because me and him are going to become pirates and sail the seas. I'm going to be his first mate if we get out of here alive."
"Too bad you wont," and the Shadow Man attacks him and starts to strangle him with a bra.
"HELP!!!!" Andy screams.
The Shadow Man hears some footsteps around the corner and flees from the murder site.
"Help me," Andy gasps.
"Compliments from the mafia," the figure said.
And the person takes a giant T-bone and smothers Andy to death.

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The town continues to sleep as well as they can, hoping that they wont become the next victim, until the clock struck 6AM. They all got out of bed, hoping no one would be dead until they see:

Iammars

(Andy, Special Win Conditioned Townie) Strangled with a bra and smothered with a T-bone

, Night Two

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"AGAIN TO THE COURT HOUSE!" someone says.
"THIS TIME WE MUST MAKE A CHOICE" someone yells.
They call the town to the courthouse to figure out what they must to do rid the town of the evil that prowls the night.
They reach a conclusion that they must kill someone to make an example to these ‘evil doers’.
Deliberation begins.

DAY TWO

reminders:
this day will be longer.
30 IRL mins = 1 mafia min.
you must have 4 posts by the noon vote count.
and then 7 posts by the end of the day.
if you dont meet the requirement then i will replace you on the spot.
remember im giving you more time because of christmas.
dont abuse it.
Deadline is at 2:30PM EST on Dec 30

[LyingBrian]

well first things first...

darquiel, how many killers

tried to kill me

left their house?

[Don Gaetano]

Of course, you know that one of us is going to turn up dead tonight, just to simplify things...

Sadly (although not unexpectedly) it turned out to be true, RIP Iammars.

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well first things first...

darquiel, how many killers tried to kill me left their house?

Why would anyone want to kill you LB. I think everyone agrees that your ability is most likely real considering what Elvis said. Why would scum waste their nightkill on finding out if you were lying or not? The scum would have no reason for trying to kill you if they thought you were lying, and if they thought you weren't lying it would be even more stupid to target you.

Most likely:

1. Some scum groups can only kill every other night.

2. All the scum groups targeted Iammars, and we weren't told in the night scene.

3. The doc was successful.

4. A combination of two or all three of the above.

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That being said, please enlighten us, Darquiel.

[elvis_knits]

It sounds like two killers/groups tried to kill Iammars, as

Strangled with a bra and smothered with a T-bone

One person was strangling with a bra, and then another killed with a T-bone. They can't be on the same team because the Bra-Man ran away before the T-bone Guy got there.

[elvis_knits]

OH MAN! Thought you guys should know this:

Remember all of LyingBrian's bullshit saying he can't be scum because he hid a message in his posts saying "my schtick"??? Then he said I should defend him because I know he did this in another game we're in? Well, we lynched LB in that game and he CAME UP SCUM. So his dumb messages prove nothing and I feel like a fool for not lynching him yesterday. (Sorry to Don G for being ALL over you!)

[Iammars]

Damn you all.

Can I still win?

[rajrhcpfreak]

Damn you all.

Can I still win?

X

[LyingBrian]

OH MAN! Thought you guys should know this:

Remember all of LyingBrian's bullshit saying he can't be scum because he hid a message in his posts saying "my schtick"??? Then he said I should defend him because I know he did this in another game we're in? Well, we lynched LB in that game and he CAME UP SCUM. So his dumb messages prove nothing and I feel like a fool for not lynching him yesterday. (Sorry to Don G for being ALL over you!)

LOL

somehow i knew this was going to come up!

if you really think i'm going to start a new schtick and only use that schtick when i'm scum, then i don't know what to say... that makes no sense to me... in fact, i would be ashamed of myself if i made such a huge blunder! i don't know how far the "don't talk about this game outside of this thread" rule goes, but i can give you other games & post #'s where i've done the same thing...so i MUST be scum ALL the time!

this is just a personal schtick that has absolutely nothing to do w/ my role!

P.S. i really don't think you need to apologize to Don Gaetano, elvis_knits... his arguments still have holes, mostly assumptions...

[Chaos]

First of all... Apparently I forgot to Unvote before voting for LyingBrian yesterday, so raj didn't count it in his final vote tally. Not that it mattered, we were still 1 from a lynch anyways.

FOS: elvis_knits

for supplying incorrect information, etc. I can't believe we ended yesterday with no lynch. I think the lurking players are scum, and they lurked as a reason to end the day with a no-lynch. If this is true, then they could have been protecting LyingBrian....

Ugh, this is hard.

[rajrhcpfreak]

High Noon Vote count will apear on Dec 21 (the first day of winter) at 8:30PM EST

[Stewie]

I think it might be worth it to mention that darquiel didn't post in any of the games we are both playing for about a week.

[LyingBrian]

i think she just needs to be prodded....

she has posted to the site recently....

[rajrhcpfreak]

prodded, she has till thursday to give me an answer.

[RangeroftheNorth]

IF the lurkers were scum, they wouldn't have gained very much From getting a no lynch. Unless LB was maFia (and the lurkers and LB were maFia together) they would have been more than happy to lynch him. My best guess is that they just weren't on in time. I must say that the 1 kill tonight is vastly superior to the three kills previously. Assuming that two diFFerent groups targeted Iammars, that means that we probably have at least 1 group that can kill every night. It is possible that the other groups can only kill every other night or something like that. It is also possible that simply had succesFul docs or that 1 or more groups tried to kill LB and Failed. We won't know for sure until darq gets here and lets us know.

[elvis_knits]

FOS: elvis_knits

for supplying incorrect information, etc. I can't believe we ended yesterday with no lynch. I think the lurking players are scum, and they lurked as a reason to end the day with a no-lynch. If this is true, then they could have been protecting LyingBrian....

Ugh, this is hard.

What incorrect information? I really am sorry for not lynching LB yesterday, but I was telling you as much as I knew at the time. Besides, Chaos, you never unvoted, so you didn't help much either.

Also...I have to do something right now, but, trust me, it hurts me more than it hurts you. (Tumors hurt, you know?)



SORRY if this grosses you out. Blame RAJ!

[LyingBrian]

@elvis_knits:

so you really think i'm scum now?!? just b/c i used the same meta-game tactic in that other game that i used in this game?!? that's like saying rajrhcpfreak is scum every time he spams a thread!

[Don Gaetano]

Sorry for the long post

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P.S. i really don't think you need to apologize to Don Gaetano, elvis_knits... his arguments still have holes, mostly assumptions...

Well, I have to admit that my arguments against you are based on assumptions, but unless you have out-of-thread information, more or less all arguments in mafia are based on assumptions. However, I made my assumptions very clear, and nobody has explained to me what part of my assumptions are illogical.

I'll post my argument one last time to make everything clear.

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To make my argument valid, all of the following assumptions must be correct:

1. There's more than one scum group and atleast one serial killer in this game. (If not then 3 nightkills would be hard to explain)

2. Atleast one of the serial killers has to be the only person left in the game to win. (As is usualy the case)

4. LyingBrian can't be nightkilled. (Providing he's telling the thruth)

If those assumptions are correct, then my argument makes it IMHO almost impossible that LB is pro-town, so here goes:

If LB was pro-town and the town didn't lynch him (remember that we started the game with a cop, so his claim could easily have been proven) then the only way a serial killer could win would be if there were 3 scum left in the endgame. (if not, then the best thing a serial killer could hope for is a draw)

Since there's more than one scum group, the scum can kill each other at night, and we can lynch scum during the day. If you combine that with all the other facts in this game, the chances of there being 3 scum left in the endgame are so small that it wouldn't even be funny. (well of course they're higher now than they were when the game started, due to an unfortunate night and a no lynch ) If someone tried to calculate the odds, they would find out just how small the chances of that happening are. Simple logic tells you that it's way to close to zero.

Based on those assumptions and that argument, I'd say it would be a gamebreaker if LB was pro-town and un-nightkillable, and if he lied about his ability then "Lynch a Liar" applies.

Please tell me if I'm missing something here, yesterday a lot of people didn't agree with this argument, if people still don't agree then please tell me what you think is wrong with it. If people do agree with the assumptions, and can't find any mistakes in the argument, then LB more or less has to be scum.

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At the end I just want to repeat that I'd really like to know what part of my assumptions and argument people disagree with if they think it's wrong. If I'm mistaken then atleast tell me where the mistake is.

[Chaos]

What incorrect information? I really am sorry for not lynching LB yesterday, but I was telling you as much as I knew at the time. Besides, Chaos, you never unvoted, so you didn't help much either.

It's the thought that counts.

I didn't know you guys were so picky that an Unvote was nessasary before each vote. Voting for another player usually implies unvote.


But, again, we were still 1 vote off even if I did actually vote for lyingbrian.

[elvis_knits]

Chaos:
I've been in NO other games where the mod didn't require an unvote to vote for someone else. I think this rule is standard. If I am wrong, please let me know (everybody).

You still didn't say what incorrect information I supplied, so you get this:

[rajrhcpfreak]

1. Votes must be in

bold

. If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted.
2. Please be attentive and

unvote

before casting a new vote. If you do not unvote, your new vote will not be counted.

standard rules....
not to mention i wasnt in a good mood after the refusal of doing your day actions along with you all not being active enough to get a lynch.
inhim also warned you in a vote count.

[Chaos]

Chaos:
I've been in NO other games where the mod didn't require an unvote to vote for someone else. I think this rule is standard. If I am wrong, please let me know (everybody).

You still didn't say what incorrect information I supplied, so you get this:

Alright, sounds fair. It just seems like a hassle, is all. I'll be sure to make note of it next time.

And I was refering to the whole "hey guys we shouldn't lynch lyingbrian!" and then switching your stance on the issue the next day.

[elvis_knits]

Um, that's because he wasn't dead yet in the other mafia we're in together. There's no way for me to report to you guys about his role before he's dead.

[LyingBrian]

@Don Gaetano:

the only hole in your logic IS the assumptions... if this was a normal game, the i would definitely tend to agree w/ you!

the scum killing scum at night hasn't worked so far, it won't necessarily work in the future! the town has at least a 50% chance of hitting an anti-town role IF we lynch!

oh, i just thought of something... if anybody wants to come forward & claim a resurrection ability, then i will sacrifice myself for the lynch!

ok, onto elvis_knits...

RabidRodents posted a picture of a horse & referenced a tumor
RabidRodents posted a picture of a weather map (i think that's what that is!) of Elizabethtown
elvis_knits posted a picture of the movie poster for Elizabethtown (with a picture of a horse in the background [maybe coincidence, maybe not])
elvis_knits posted a picture of a horse (with an disproportionate ummm, member) [this picture was from a website called sillyTOWN.com, maybe a connection]
elvis_knits posted a picture of a MRI (maybe someother body scan, not too medically savvy) referencing a tumor
elvis_knits posted a picture of the skelatal & muscular layout of a horse & its rider

it looks like they have to be posted 1x per RL week, and a couple insights...
except for RabidRodents pictures both pictures have something in common (a horse & the word TOWN) & (skeletal structure of a human)...

i would venture to guess the images are coming from rajrhcpfreak since all 6 pictures are from totally unrelated sights...

so we have 3 common themes: horses, tumor, Elizabethtown... elvis_knits, can you give us any insight, also does anybody else know or figured out the relevance...

[elvis_knits]

LB, the pics are not supplied by raj, I have to find them myself. They are supposed to be on the three topics you said: tumor, Elizabethtown and horses. They don't really mean anything to the game except that they hint at my role (I think, I don't know the person that I have). It's just sort of a flavor thing.

[LyingBrian]

ok, thanks for clarifying, so, the skeletal connection in the last 2 pictures & the TOWN connection in the 2 before that was just coincidence?

am i also to understand you can't confirm yourself?!? LOL