NY 160: Terrible Melodrama Mafia (Game Over)

DeasVail · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:52 am

Vote Count 1.02

Senjai (4)- JacobSavage, Toon Fighter, adorkable, Nero Cain
Nero Cain (2)- Demon Core, Senjai
PiggyGal15 (2)- Cletus+Brandine, Untrod Tripod
JacobSavage (1)- Plan B
Toon Fighter (1)- PiggyGal15
Number Six (1)- theamatuer
adorkable (1)- 4nxi3ty

Not voting: N, DoomYoshi, Number Six

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

14th November, 6am AEDT

DoomYoshi · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:23 am

In post 49, JacobSavage wrote:i would say mre piggy is probably nervous town than scrum but so far there really has not been enough to say either way with any sort of uncertainty

In addition to the other question... why would town have a reason to be nervous? Wouldn't you agree that someone who is nervous during page 2 scum?
You also never answered 4nxiety's question.

VOTE: jacob

Curious timing, demon. Are you my

alt

mother?

Senjai · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:30 am

In post 73, Untrod Tripod wrote:your scumreads are post suggestions? that particular scumread was a posting suggestion?

also way to reading comprehension. I called it a "bullshit" scumread, implying that it's not one that actually tells you anything.

k

Senjai · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:37 am

EBWOP: In the meantime, do you have anything else to add?

JacobSavage · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:26 pm

Town have a lot to be nervous, there's people killing each other and I don't have a gun!! it's scary

Also where is this question?

DoomYoshi · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:40 pm

In post 51, 4nxi3ty wrote:
JacobSavage wrote:VOTE: Senjai Obv Chainsaw, you obnoxious teenager

If you thought Senjai was attacking Toonfighter to defend Piggygal then you must've thought both of them did something scummy at the time? Or was that not a serious comment?

This question.

Demon Core · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:28 pm

In post 76, DoomYoshi wrote:Curious timing, demon. Are you my
alt
mother?

No, DoomYoshi. I

am

your father.

Wait a second, that didn't really fit, did it?

Senjai · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:33 pm

Hey guys, on a side note (not sure what timezones you all are in) I'd like to wish everyone a happy and

safe

Halloween.

N · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:39 pm

Senjai, what do you think of your wagon? What about what you were up to L-2?

JacobSavage · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:44 am

oh it was a joke vote (sorry I thought I had answered it? )

DoomYoshi · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:35 am

um, derp, yes you did answer it. What do you think of the last chainsaw accusation (by Toon Fighter)?

N, what's with the no vote? What do

you

think of the Senjai wagon?

In post 40, PiggyGal15 wrote:I'm sorry >.< I have nothing left to say

Nothing at all? Senjai gave some reads, does this make him scum?

Toon Fighter · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:38 am

Still not liking some Sejai's posts, but he's looking better.

Secondind N, what do you think about the wagon on you, Senjai?

Agree with DoomYoshi about jacob, still being undecided looks bad. Make a statement, have an opinion, even if you have to change it later on.

N · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:49 am

In post 85, DoomYoshi wrote:um, derp, yes you did answer it. What do you think of the last chainsaw accusation (by Toon Fighter)?

N, what's with the no vote? What do
you
think of the Senjai wagon?

In post 40, PiggyGal15 wrote:I'm sorry >.< I have nothing left to say

Nothing at all? Senjai gave some reads, does this make him scum?

I would trim this down so I'm oink only replying to the but concerning me, but I'm on my phone.

Why do I need to have a vote down? And I'll wait until Sendai replies before I answer.

4nxi3ty · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:52 am

In post 67, Demon Core wrote:anxiety should join me on this wagon.

nah i like where my vote is--a small hop on a large wagon and has been quiet ever since.

PiggyGal15 · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:18 am

In post 85, DoomYoshi wrote:um, derp, yes you did answer it. What do you think of the last chainsaw accusation (by Toon Fighter)?

N, what's with the no vote? What do
you
think of the Senjai wagon?

In post 40, PiggyGal15 wrote:I'm sorry >.< I have nothing left to say

Nothing at all? Senjai gave some reads, does this make him scum?

Yes nothing at all o.O I don't know, someone do something scummy so that I have something to talk about. Right now everyone is null/scum except Senjai who's town because my gut tells me so.

JacobSavage · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:19 am

In post 41, Cletus+Brandine wrote:Are we really going to argue about RVS?

VOTE: PiggyGal

This is a serious vote

DIAF

I want bacon

Just going through everyones posts, and found this.
Only post (Not that I am one to talk, also adorkable has one RVS post still....) not a serious vote but accompanied with a non-serious comment....

JacobSavage · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:59 am

OPIONION TIME!!! HORRAY

Demon Core

Not much to go on, a post about a chemical reaction and then a vote which he then said was non random (posts 43,44,45, and 62) Gave me scummy vibes, not so sure about them though.

Cletus + Brandine

See post above, I mean its only one post but I just don't like it. Its a very gut thing, probably scum.

Piggy

Overall rather neutral, but did seem to be buddying a lot to Senjai (post 29) so if Senjai does flip scum then a Piggy lynch should follow soon after (However if Senjai is town, dont discount Piggy)

Nero Cain

Probably town, seemingly wanting to avoid a mislynch, not much else

4nxi3ty

His question to me did seam like he was trying to find someone to band wagon with, and his refusal to move his vote was a little odd. Not scummy but odd.

Senjai

Having lots of difficulty reading him, hes not standing out other than that he posts a lot, I would call him a null currently

So overall If I had to choose a top 3 I would say:
Anxiety, Demon Core and Cleutus.

What does anyone else think?

Demon Core · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:38 am

In post 91, JacobSavage wrote:His question to me did seam like he was trying to find someone to band wagon with, and his refusal to move his vote was a little odd. Not scummy but odd.

^This is your description of your top scum read (assuming your reads are in order).

And you conveniently left post 67 (which details my "random vote") out of your little dossier there.

Would you like to try again?

Senjai · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:39 am

I <3 My wagon. It's different than when a wagon is on someone else. You have two unknowns, what that persons role is, and what the people wagoning him are. I know who I am, so I get the priviledge of getting lots of juicy intel from others when they react to my posts. I said in #52 wagons are awesome.

In post 86, Toon Fighter wrote:Still not liking some Sejai's posts, but he's looking better.

Secondind N, what do you think about the wagon on you, Senjai?

Agree with DoomYoshi about jacob, still being undecided looks bad. Make a statement, have an opinion, even if you have to change it later on.

Being undecided doesnt look bad at all. Changing your statements makes you look bad.

In post 60, Senjai wrote:Here are my reads thus far.

ToonFighter: Slight
town
read. After some reflection in the shower I think he's just stubborn. Scum aren't likely to go all out on someone and make themselves that vulnerable to scrutiny this early on IME. Though I would like to know, given his reasoning why he doesnt have issues with #41, #43, and #58. Among others I missed.

Nero Cain: Slight
scum
read. Decided to seriously vote me without any valid reason, commenting on my post count and my desire for him to walk were he talks. Seems to me he was just looking for any reason to jump on a bandwagon and move for a QL.

Unipod Tripod:
scum
read, hasnt commented on anything since page one and is still RVS'ing. This goes for Cletus and DC and anyone else who doesnt feel like commenting on anything that has happened thus far.

Everyone else: neut.

That is all. Time to go interview for a job, wish me luck. Be back in a bit.

Now, when I gave these reads I was lying. All of my reads stand except the one on Toonfighter. Toonfighter has been the most obvious and stubborn in supporting my lynch while not scumhunting anybody else. As quoted he doesnt respond to any of the other posts, nor imo does he try to reliably scumhunt anyone either than me.

So this is what I attempted to do.

I would make a post saying that he's a town read. I'd expect him to back off of his position as scum. Because he knows that two people consider me town, by associating himself with me or backing off he could get some cheap towncred with those two people. While in later times he could argue he was scumhunting the wagon, was satisfied, and went with my reasoning. I changed my vote to Nero Cain (dont get me wrong NC, I still think your scumtastic) and expected him to hop on. Had he have done this I would make it my lifes desire to have him lynched.

But he only went partway, and that was backing off his position (again with no explination). He didnt do this when I attempted to reason with him (among others like theamatuer and Anxiety) but only when I stated that I had a slight town read. This is SCUMMY. Though not as scummy as if he hopped on with me, I wont vote him yet. but...

FOS: ToonFighter

Senjai · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:43 am

In post 92, Demon Core wrote:
In post 91, JacobSavage wrote:His question to me did seam like he was trying to find someone to band wagon with, and his refusal to move his vote was a little odd. Not scummy but odd.

^This is your description of your top scum read (assuming your reads are in order).

And you conveniently left post 67 (which details my "random vote") out of your little dossier there.

Would you like to try again?

Wagons are good. I suggest we run up on NC next

Senjai · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:47 am

In post 83, N wrote:Senjai, what do you think of your wagon? What about what you were up to L-2?

As long as theirs a wagon its cool. Great for scumhunting. If someone quicklynches that quickly then I dont want to be a part of this town. Also it was technically L-3, as I was one of those votes.

Senjai · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:50 am

Happy Scumday TF

Nero Cain · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:59 am

stop multiposting like that to make yourself look active.

Toon Fighter · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:18 am

WTH is that Senjai? I didn't back of you just because you called me town. In fact I did nothing you expected me to do. Actually, a gambit like that does make me think you are more town-looking in my book, so there's that. It's not, however, a good gambit.

Also, being undecided is a scum tell. I saw it before, and I will see it again. Heck, I did it myself as scum, and got lynched for it. Scum don't want to lynch a townie and look bad doing it. They know he is town, and being too eager to lynch him may look bad, so scum look undecided until they think it's a safe time to put their vote in the wagon and the townie lynched, looking guiltless as they do it.

I'd expect town to put their vote around instead, checking someone until they are surer of his alignment, and moving on if they decide he's town/sticking if they find him scum. Voting someone and then changing your mind is townie, being undecided is scummy.

Also, agree with Nero, multiposting fluff like that looks bad.

Senjai · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:29 am

Yea but I don't care about 'looks' .. Sorry :/
The way you put it your right. I meant saying 1 person is 100% scum then switching and going back on it without any significant evidence is scummy.
May have not been the best gambit or w/e but I thought I'd try something out so.