Open 424: Jungle Republic (Game Over)

[Psyche]

Sigh. So. LYLO.

[Konowa]

God, I do not think I have ever been that wrong.

Malakittens is town.
Crazy is town (due to early push D2 on yellowbounder).

That leaves Kondi and Pysche.
Doesn't really matter which one first.

Vote: Psyche

[Psyche]

I am town. I am town. I am town.

[Psyche]

This PoE thing clearly isn't working.

[Psyche]

Guess it's Konowa/Kondi, given the former's last post. Which is annoying, but at least I can produce cases on why both are scummy.

[Psyche]

And it's best to make sure our Crazy read is perfect.

[Psyche]

God, I do not think I have ever been that wrong.

Malakittens is town.
Crazy is town (due to early push D2 on yellowbounder).

That leaves Kondi and Pysche.
Doesn't really matter which one first.

Vote: Psyche

-_-
Scumpost.

What about Scigatt's early D2 push, Konowa?

EVERYONE: Clearly we have to accept the fact that there was some orchestrated bussing by the scumteam, given that, of the four unconfirmed slots, 3 have made early pushes on YB.

Got to keep up, Konowascum.

[Konowa]

What about Scigatt's early D2 push, Konowa?

This is Scigatt’s only post D2. What push are you talking about?

[Psyche]

What about Scigatt's early D2 push, Konowa?

This is Scigatt’s only post D2. What push are you talking about?

Fine, D1 push. Whatever.

[Psyche]

What's the difference?

[Konowa]

Difference is that Crazy was pushing yb D1 and followed up with it D2.
Scigatt had an early vote on yb D1 and then never followed up on it at all. Reasoning for voting yb was "this post does not help you".

[Psyche]

unvote;
Vote: Venmar

155 was a whole bunch of noise and very low signal.

This is weakly veiled parroting of Crazy and others with the goal of joining a winning wagon that wasn't on his scumbud.

Also, right before this switch, he posted this:

Definitely sticking with my yellowbounder vote. I will explain if people can not see why.

Again highlighting the dubiousness of his wagon hop.

Let's see why he voted YB.

Most of the read on YB is the interaction revolving around DMS' vote, post 84, 85, and 86.  I have no problem with unexplained votes, as long as they are easily read.  Given the timing of DMS' vote of PMysterious, I can clearly see why DMS would vote that way.  It, self-admittedly, is weak point/strong gut but I do not see town mindset in YB's thought process.

RainbowDash, to me Venmar's post was high nose:low signal.  That is scummy.

Here he neatly highlights the scumminess of his jump to Venmar.

He has a

case

on YB and strongly asserts that "he does not see a town mindset in YB's thought process.

Venmar is just scummy because his post was high noise:low signal. 

Votecount 1.6:

As there are 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.


(4)

PMysterious

drmyshotgun, Yellowbounder, Vijay2visandani, Umbrage

(L-3)

(4)

Yellowbounder

: Malakittens, Konowa, Scigatt, PMysterious

(L-3)

(2)

Scigatt

: Venmar, BK201
(1)

BK201

: Crazy

Not Voting:

Rainbowdash

Day One will end in (expired on 2012-07-22 01:32:00).

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Malakittens is V/LA through 7/15

This was the votecount. It's strange that he left YB so frivolously when a wagon on someone he "could not see a town mindset" for was already going strong.


There's a credibility gap here, between Konowa's articulation of and proclaimed commitment to the YB and Venmar wagons that suggests that his reasons for leaving the YB wagon may be disingenuous. 



...Eh. We need to consider everyone. I'm not confident enough in this case.

[Psyche]

Difference is that Crazy was pushing yb D1 and followed up with it D2.
Scigatt had an early vote on yb D1 and then never followed up on it at all. Reasoning for voting yb was "this post does not help you".

You confuse addendums for reasoning. But sure, I get your point.

We really should leave no stone unturned this time around, but Crazy's been good. I another LYLO I was in, the obvtown player was scum. >.>

[Konowa]

unvote;

Not going to be around until tomorrow.
Do not want shenanigans.

[Konowa]

If Crazy is mafia with yb, then he has been bussing him all game. I don't buy it. I really do not see mafiaCrazy.

[Psyche]

OF COURSE I'M THINKING ABOUT YB FLIPPING SCUM, I THINK YB IS FUCKING SCUM.

Because it involves keeping people alive who have no interest in the town's victory. I don't understand how it can be anything but anti-town.

Either you're incredibly dense or you're scum. I'm guessing mafia, but judging the way you overreacted and assumed we were asking the WW to claim, you could be the WW.

VOTE: Konowa

PM and Crazy are still town. Want more content from YB. Malakittens is a good wagon, but he's small potatoes. Konowa's been flying under the radar all game, I want to put him in the spotlight for a bit.

OH WAIT DERP THAT WAS YB AND I THOUGHT IT WAS KONOWA DUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP.

OK YB WAGON NOW HAS MY SUPPORT

So did I make that slip up or did I really forget who my scumbuddy was?

Ugh. Mindrape.

[Psyche]

So, guys. What makes you think Umbrage would mistake YB for Konowa?

Their avatars are similar, but it seems like quite a stretch that Umbrage would misidentify a person because of the vague similarity of his avatar with someone else's.

i'm suggesting that the confusion might be a scumslip, but I guess that might be too hopeful...

[Malakittens]

Vote: Pysche

[Crazy]

Posting to prove that I'm not quickhammering. I gotta think this over, though.

[Psyche]

Vote: Pysche

Ugh. What is wrong with you?

Don't you learn from mistakes? Quickvoting without justification is maladaptive. Especially in LYLO.

[Malakittens]

yeah and hammering while I'm asleep pisses me off. Plus 1 vote on you doesn't equal a quick hammer. I pegged your ass as scum a while ago and let it slide because you started to post and yeah well now I don't think you're town anymore.

[Malakittens]

I'm either voting you or voting Kondi. Take your pick.

[kondi2424]

I have to reread this. I felt good about a Crazy townread and a Konowa scumread in general before this. However, I probably need to read everyone individually some time today, and Konowa immediately voting Psyche and them arguing off the bat gives me doubts on them being a team. I'll probably end up voting Konowa today regardless due to the crappy quickvote.

@Mala: Unvote.

[Crazy]

Psyche did make an interesting point that pretty much everyone has bussed YB to a certain extent. Ironically, now this makes me think Psyche as less obv-town due to Scigatt's early vote on YB.

Looking at interactions between the 3 other unconfirmed people, I can't say that any scum-team is very difficult to see - if I was less lazy, then I could probably make a case for any of the 3 scumteams.

The biggest thing for me right now is how hard it is to see Umbrage's interactions with BK, as well as all the insults Umbrage threw around, being completely contrived.

Especially

considering that Umbrage's hypothetical partner would have already been bussing YB at some point, I really can't see why Umbrage would be so insistent that BK be lynched.

So yeah, I'm leaning towards voting Psyche right now. I think I'd rather vote Konowa than Psyche, but I'm not sure that's an option.

[Crazy]

Actually, just VOTE: Psyche

If Mala's only budge is going to be a Kondi vote instead of a Psyche vote, I'd rather just vote Psyche. If Umbrage is scum, that's the best freaking acting I've ever seen.