Normal 10 (Intrigue Mafia) - Deadline: March 18th 11am.

cuban smoker · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:03 am

Vote count

11 RubberDuck (ambic, Werebear, Corsato, DP, DS, Polotet, mathcam, mikegoo, warrior, jadesmar, Night Stalker)
10 warrior4037 (AF, d8p, rite, jeep, PB, Porro, Gaspode, Bobacino, Dourgrim, Kelvin)
1 PolarBoy ( Leonidas)
1 NO LYNCH (RD)
1 DoomCow (CB)

16 to lynch

Not voting: DoomCow, GC, DarkBlade, Mackay, SaberKitty, Tigris

DEADLINE SET FOR 3 DAYS FROM NOW. March 18th, at 11:00 am (-0500)

Polotet · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:14 am

I'm sorry, I still think RubberDuck's role claim is ridiculous and unbelieveable, and will continue voting for him.

Dourgrim · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:19 am

Out of curiosity, how do you feel a role claim can be "ridiculous and unbelievable" when we're playing in a game based on Improbable Role Mafia? I mean, the Flying Pumpkin is pretty unbelievable too, isn't it?

Polotet · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:30 pm

It's not the name of the role, but the substance: "I might get info if people vote for me" just doesn't sound like a viable role for me.

PolarBoy · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:26 pm

Of course this can lead to the famous, "That's just what you're meant to think" logic loop, but maybe the first thing that makes rubberduck's role claim believable is the fact that it's so ridiculous. Why would a Mafia claim a role that would actually attract lynching votes? That seems like an unnessecary risk. Wouldn't it be easier to claim cop before night one? That way he wouldn't have to reveal any investigations but could also squeeze out of a lynch. With RD's claim, we could almost lynch him by accident if we tried to help him help the town, what with simulposting. All in all, it's just not the kind of lie people normally think up. Everything that's happened lately has made me wonder what to think though. What are you supposed to do in situations like this?

Bobacino · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:04 pm

I don't really know what you are supposed to do. However, what happens most of the time in these situations is that people go with gut feelings and bandwagons and innocents get killed. What you should do, at this stage, is vote for the person who seems the most mafia like or else don't vote at all. Either way, someone is going to die in a couple of days, whether you cast your final vote or not... Sorry Im not much help!

Night Stalker · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:21 pm

You know, he could be a suicide bomber...

Green Crayons · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:47 pm

Your

mom

could be a suicide bomber!

Oh, wait. We're trying to keep our posts reasonable and pertaining to logic, aren't we? Hum. Okay.

I find both warrior and Rubberduck as crap contenders for the lynch, so i'm not going to put my vote on either of them.

Vote: Night Stalker

. ..Basing that on limited personal suspicions.

Darkblade · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 4:48 pm

Sorry for the delay. I was overworked and at an overnight debate trip. After looking through the pages, I shall

VOTE: Rubberduck

for I seriously doubt cuban creating a wizard

PolarBoy · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:03 pm

*cringes before plunging in*

I don't exactly follow the logic of that last post Darkblade, I assume you were mistaken. How does my role claim being suspicious make it more likely that rubber duck is mafia? Rubber Duck is the village idiot. I'm the wizard.

As far as my vote is concerned, I feel like it might be more worthwhile to leave it on Warrior. Not because I think he's scum, but because nobody else has more than one vote on him except Rubberduck, and I am interested in seeing the results of his investigation. Is it possible to get a bandwagon going at this point that will lead to 12 votes on anyone besides these two? Basically what it comes down to is I'd rather leave RD alive and find out that his claim was true than leave Warrior alive and find out that his claim was true. If RD's bandwagon doesn't come down

and

Warrior's doesn't come down, my vote will change, as it can no longer help RD at that point anyway.

PolarBoy · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:14 pm

You know what, I've just changed my mind. I think I see where Mr. Acino's suspicions come from.

unvote: Warrior4037

and

Vote: Night Stalker

. One cannot merely echo his way out of a bandwagon.

Gaspode · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:27 pm

Unvote: warrior

because certain people seem more suspicious to me right now (see later in the post), and at least you've claimed a useful role.

Big FOS: Warrior

until he reveals his role name.

vote: Darkblade

for voting without knowing what's going on. Polarboy is the claimed wizard, RD is the village idiot. If you don't have the right facts, don't vote. It's possible that he (Darkblade) is mafia who is trying to be a good little townie by jumping on a bandwagon quick, but got the facts wrong in his haste.

PolarBoy · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:40 pm

Ok, I thought up a bold strategy for using all of the recent information that has come forward and testing it for truth or falsehood at the same time. Here goes: We lynch virtually anybody except Warrior or Rubberduck, but we load up rubberduck with votes before the deadline, then Warrior protects RD tonight and RD reveals the results of his investigations tommorow. It will be fairly obvious if one of them is lying by tommorow and if we're lucky we get a stinking load of investigations. If we want to make sure that we find out if Warrior is lying or not I would reccomend that others docs who are suspicious of Warrior do NOT protect RD, I admit that this does put a potentially valuable asset at risk, but if we have liars it will definitely smoke them out. I submit my plan to the town for thurough analisys, any improvements would be gladly accepted. I'll attempt to post further comment tommorow, this is by no means a completed plan.

Kelvin · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:41 pm

Dourgrim wrote:Out of curiosity, how do you feel a role claim can be "ridiculous and unbelievable" when we're playing in a game based on Improbable Role Mafia? I mean, the Flying Pumpkin is pretty unbelievable too, isn't it?

Oh no, a Flying Pumpkin's pretty believable. I mean, we have them commonly where I live.

But a Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beams Out Of Its Ass? That's incredible.

Okay, since we have a role claim from warrior4037, and no obvious mistake on his part, I rather want to adopt PolarBoy's plan for testing the veracity of warrior and Rubberduck. As such I find that the two people most suspicious to me at this point are Darkblade and Night Stalker.

Vote: Night Stalker

Kelvin · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:41 pm

What I meant was

Vote: Night Stalker

.

Bobacino · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 12:48 am

Jesus, it's like a bloody ping-pong game! I do agree that voting either PolarBoy, RubberDuck or Warrior is probably a waste of an innocent (I think that Cuban is imaginative enough to include a wizard as a role, I think Polarboy's plan to test Warrior is logical and I think we could get loads of information from RD), and Night Stalker is lurking an awful lot.. so

unvote: Warrior

and

vote: Night Stalker

.

Night Stalker · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:44 am

Lurking an awful lot? I posted 9 posts ago!

Dragon Slayer · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:40 am

But hardly at all before that. In fact I haven't seen another post for pages. Hold on, RD clamed village idiot, but what power was it?

Dragon Slayer · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:42 am

polarboy wrote:but we load up rubberduck with votes before the deadline

Sorry, but what is the point of this agian?

cuban smoker · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 6:15 am

Vote count

13 RubberDuck (ambic, CB, Werebear, Corsato, DarkBlade, DP, DS, Polotet, mathcam, mikegoo, warrior, jadesmar, Night Stalker)
6 warrior4037 (AF, d8p, rite, jeep, Porro, Dourgrim)
4 Night Stalker (GC, PB, Bobacino, Kelvin
1 PolarBoy ( Leonidas)
1 NO LYNCH (RD)
1 DarkBlade (Gaspode)

16 to lynch

Not voting: DoomCow, Mackay, SaberKitty, Tigris

DEADLINE SET FOR 2 DAYS FROM NOW. March 18th, at 11:00 am (-0500)

Post count edited because as I was reading through the thread, I discovered CB has been voting for RD all along (since page 5).

CaptainBlicero · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 2:52 pm

unvote: RD

vote: NS

I'm back. Need more time to read.

Tigris · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:03 pm

Sorry for being quiet, I have been quite sick (coughing for 2 days straight amongst other things), still don't trust the duck, but would rather give him a day to confirm some things, right now he is the one getting lynched, but since I don't find any of the front-runners all that suspicious, but perhaps I am not thinking clearly.

If all you guys voting for me must know, Im the village idiot and I always have to try to be the center of attention, the more votes I get acts sorta like an investigation. Other than that LALAOLOLOLaOLOL

Here is the duck's quote about votes for anyone curious.

Gaspode · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:56 pm

Alright,

unvote: Darkblade

. I still think he's suspicious, though.

Vote: NS

because I want to keep RD and Warrior alive until tomorrow, and his "I'm not lurking" post was pretty stupid.

Lurking an awful lot? I posted 9 posts ago!

Yeah, and it (the post referred to in the quote) was really useful, too.

It consisted of eight whole words.

Dragon Slayer · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:58 pm

unvote Rubberduck

Benefit of the doubt (not my style). O well.

cuban smoker · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:28 am

Vote count

11 RubberDuck (ambic, Werebear, Corsato, DarkBlade, DP, Polotet, mathcam, mikegoo, warrior, jadesmar, Night Stalker)
6 Night Stalker (CB, GC, PB, Gaspode, Bobacino, Kelvin)
6 warrior4037 (AF, d8p, rite, jeep, Porro, Dourgrim)
1 PolarBoy (Leonidas)
1 NO LYNCH (RD)

16 to lynch

Not voting: DoomCow, Mackay, SaberKitty, Tigris, Dragon Slayer

DEADLINE SET FOR

25.5 HOURS

FROM NOW. March 18th, at 11:00 am (-0500)

Sometime this evening I will make a judgement call as to whether to extend the deadline. The post count should change dramatically for me to do that.