Mini 1141 - Frogs Mafia 2 - GAME, SET, MATCH

[implosion]

VOTE: ender

Only person here I've played with before, even if it was in marathon games.

[Amrun]

Why would you make two votes in one post, though?

[Amrun]

Oops, there was a page 2! Post was addressed to Truant.

[Truant]

First vote was a salutation, 2nd vote is srs. Didn't want to waste a chance to RVS vote, but it wasn't the time to keep an RVS vote on anybody since I see scumminess.

[Amrun]

I really don't understand voting for two people in the same post.

[petroleumjelly]

I really don't understand voting for two people in the same post.

And I don't understand how this is a relevant topic of discussion, seeing as it is clearly not indicative of alignment. Although at this point in the game, I certainly

wish

I could vote for two people in the same post. I want to vote like four players at once right now!

[Amrun]

Well, I think it COULD be indicative of alignment, but in this case, it probably isn't.

Why would you want to vote four players, though?

[BlenBlen]

First vote was a salutation, 2nd vote is srs. Didn't want to waste a chance to RVS vote, but it wasn't the time to keep an RVS vote on anybody since I see scumminess.

Second vote is serious business?

Actually, no.

Because this is a themed game, it is actually possible for me to have information relating to BlenBlen. Which is one reason why -- rather than assuming Tuncali "has no idea how this game is played," as you claim -- I asked him his level of experience.

Actually see rule 2?

Anyway I'd like to think that someone postulating that you might be a cop with a night 0 investigation and with the ability to share your results in night 0 is probably very new. Didn't make it any less amusing to read tho

[petroleumjelly]

Actually, no.

Because this is a themed game, it is actually possible for me to have information relating to BlenBlen. Which is one reason why -- rather than assuming Tuncali "has no idea how this game is played," as you claim -- I asked him his level of experience.

Actually see rule 2?

Anyway I'd like to think that someone postulating that you might be a cop with a night 0 investigation and with the ability to share your results in night 0 is probably very new. Didn't make it any less amusing to read tho

You seem to be discounting Day Roles, as well as roles that start the game with information. But that is neither here nor there.

Amrun, I would like four votes for the following four reasons:

1.)

mozamis

2.)

BlenBlen

3.)

Tuncali

4.)

To badger non-posters (currently Magnetic & ender241)
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[Truant]

Actually, no.

Because this is a themed game, it is actually possible for me to have information relating to BlenBlen. Which is one reason why -- rather than assuming Tuncali "has no idea how this game is played," as you claim -- I asked him his level of experience.

Actually see rule 2?

Anyway I'd like to think that someone postulating that you might be a cop with a night 0 investigation and with the ability to share your results in night 0 is probably very new. Didn't make it any less amusing to read tho

You seem to be discounting Day Roles, as well as roles that start the game with information. But that is neither here nor there.

Amrun, I would like four votes for the following four reasons:

1.)

mozamis

2.)

BlenBlen

3.)

Tuncali

4.)

To badger non-posters (currently Magnetic & ender241)
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I endorse this idea/product.

Furthermore, yes, the 2nd vote is serious; if you'd like, ignore the first vote/treat it as a separate post with "RVS" in big bold letters all around it, and the 2nd vote is a new post. It really doesn't matter and pestering me about it will do absolutely nothing.

[Meransiel]

Actually

, no.

Because this is a

themed game

, it is actually possible for me to have information relating to BlenBlen. Which is one reason why -- rather than assuming Tuncali "has no idea how this game is played," as you claim -- I asked him his level of experience.

5.)

I find it curious that you suggesting somebody with a join date of Janaury 17, 2011 has "no idea how the game is played" when your own join date is March 5, 2011 (i.e. nine days ago). Can I take it you're an alt / otherwise experienced, then?

I really call them as I see them, really. I mean, I'm playing a newbie game right now and most people, though just as new as me, seem more experienced than that guy.

[Meransiel]

Actually, no.

Because this is a themed game, it is actually possible for me to have information relating to BlenBlen. Which is one reason why -- rather than assuming Tuncali "has no idea how this game is played," as you claim -- I asked him his level of experience.

Actually see rule 2?

Anyway I'd like to think that someone postulating that you might be a cop with a night 0 investigation and with the ability to share your results in night 0 is probably very new. Didn't make it any less amusing to read tho

You seem to be discounting Day Roles, as well as roles that start the game with information. But that is neither here nor there.

Amrun, I would like four votes for the following four reasons:

1.)

mozamis

2.)

BlenBlen

3.)

Tuncali

4.)

To badger non-posters (currently Magnetic & ender241)

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It's not exactly wise to do that. Lurkers are likely scum, but people that don't post at all can't be scum.

[Shanba]

THE FIRST EVER FROGS MAFIA II Vote Count:
3: Tuncali

(scotmany12, BlenBlen, Amrun)

3: mozamis

(petroleumjelly, Meransiel, OhGodMyLife)

2: BlenBlen

(kunkstar7, Truant)

1: ender241

(implosion)
Not Voting:

Tuncali, Magnetic, mozamis, ender241

I'm gonna go prod people who haven't shown up (magnetic, ender241) and send them a link to the thread.

[scotmany12]

It's not exactly wise to do that. Lurkers are likely scum, but people that don't post at all can't be scum.

And do you have anything to back up this claim of yours?

[Tuncali]

I am sorry if I said something that I was not expected to say. I was just confused as to why several people were so quick to listen to petroleumjelly when he said BlenBlen was a scum. As to your question of me, petroleumjelly, I have little experience in playing this game. The game of Mafia was introduced to me by a student and it is my second game on this site after I was killed in my first one.

[Truant]

I am sorry if I said something that I was not expected to say. I was just confused as to why several people were so quick to listen to petroleumjelly when he said BlenBlen was a scum. As to your question of me, petroleumjelly, I have little experience in playing this game. The game of Mafia was introduced to me by a student and it is my second game on this site after I was killed in my first one.

It's more that he's one of the scummiest so far (which isn't saying a lot as we're 2 pages into it, and not everyone has posted). Therefore he's deserving of a vote to truly figure out his alignment.

[Meransiel]

It's not exactly wise to do that. Lurkers are likely scum, but people that don't post at all can't be scum.

And do you have anything to back up this claim of yours?

Logic, mostly. Voting for someone that is completely absent is equivalent to picking at random. So the chance of him being town is 13-x out of 13, x being the number of non-townies. And that's high, at least until day 3.

[Tuncali]

I'm not following your logic, Meransiel. By definition, the number of scums in a game must be nonzero, and so it is inaccurate to say that picking someone at random means the chosen person "can't be scum".

[Truant]

@Meransiel: Kinda what Tuncali said, why are you defending somebody that has probably ~1/4 chance of being scum when you have nothing to prove that he's pro-town?

[mozamis]

Clam yourself. You must see that voting for someone and then changing it without any reason looks a bit odd. So yes, why did you do that?

My first vote was my random vote (i.e. I wanted to recognize a certain person, say hi, whatever) while my 2nd vote is a more serious vote. What else could it be at this point in the game?

Wll, thats fair enough i guess. But it looked weird. Would have been more helpful if you said that in between votes.

[mozamis]

and lol, i see i have picked up three votes already. The ol' mozamis charm never lets me down.
To those who are voting me, why?

[Meransiel]

@Meransiel: Kinda what Tuncali said, why are you defending somebody that has probably ~1/4 chance of being scum when you have nothing to prove that he's pro-town?

Because everyone has a right to defend himself. At least, day 1-wise. You don't vote on people that don't post, you ask the mod to prod them and get them replaced. Until that happens, voting for them means voting at random. And that's fairly anti-town (though unavoidable in some cases).

As such, I won't vote for someone that never posted. I suggest you don't rush with that yourself.

@mozamis: your avi is annoying.

[Meransiel]

And yes, that means I'll probably unvote.

[Truant]

@Meransiel: Kinda what Tuncali said, why are you defending somebody that has probably ~1/4 chance of being scum when you have nothing to prove that he's pro-town?

Because everyone has a right to defend himself. At least, day 1-wise. You don't vote on people that don't post, you ask the mod to prod them and get them replaced. Until that happens, voting for them means voting at random. And that's fairly anti-town (though unavoidable in some cases).

As such, I won't vote for someone that never posted. I suggest you don't rush with that yourself.

@mozamis: your avi is annoying.

Ignoring the overall game-state implications of voting for lurkers; why aren't you voting at all? People are posting, what, if anything, is suspicious to you?

[Truant]

Ignore that, confused you with Moz on the votecount. Moz, why aren't YOU voting?

@Mer: Who would you vote for then if you plan on unvoting?