The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

[Fishythefish]

For vanilla people: we now have an arrow/bones farm. Go down the water shaft at -273, 195 (in water very near spawntown). At some point I'll make the farm itself more beautiful, and add a proper entrance.

[Maestro]

if I hear anything from certain individuals about server downtime I'll gladly show those individuals the 4-hour-long dynmap deletion that is currently ongoing. we're either moving to a lowres version of dynmap or we're removing it, because this is a HUGE waste of memory and time on something people barely even use. and all most people do when they do use it is gripe about the lack of a dynmap/IRC bridge which isn't really a priority ATM and probably never will be

Klaz and I are REALLY tempted to remove dynmap - if anybody has sever separation anxiety or has thoughts they should share them

P-Edit: Fishy ILU welcome back and stuff <3

[Fishythefish]

Thanks! At some point I might get around to trying out FTB. BTW, does vanilla still have dynmap or is that gone?

[Tierce]

It's gone, vanilla is running snapshots.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I really, realy, really like dnmap and use it all the time, rspecially now that i've haf no access to ftb.

[Rhinox]

if I hear anything from certain individuals about server downtime I'll gladly show those individuals the 4-hour-long dynmap deletion that is currently ongoing. we're either moving to a lowres version of dynmap or we're removing it, because this is a HUGE waste of memory and time on something people barely even use. and all most people do when they do use it is gripe about the lack of a dynmap/IRC bridge which isn't really a priority ATM and probably never will be

Klaz and I are REALLY tempted to remove dynmap - if anybody has sever separation anxiety or has thoughts they should share them

I really, realy, really like dnmap and use it all the time, rspecially now that i've haf no access to ftb.

I use dynmap all the time. I generally always have it open while I'm playing. Its extremely useful to tell where un-generated chunks are, which is useful for avoiding generating new chunks (most cases), or to explore new area if there's something I'm looking for (useful to explore new chunks in a systematic way so as to not explore more than needed). I use it for navigating as well, if there is a biome I'm looking for specifically for some resource, or to know how to find someone's place (I don't have waypoints to everyone). I use it to see where people are and what they're working on. I like looking at peoples structures on the dynmap even if all the blocks don't have a texture. Also, IRC is blocked by my work network and my phone is unreliable in the factory, so dynmap is the only way I am able to communicate with people playing on the server for roughly 50hrs per week.

Basically, I've gotten pretty used to playing with dynmap and I'd have to change the way I play if it were to be no more, and I'd be somewhat more disconnected from the community. That being said, the 3D res can probably easily by dialed back a couple clicks. I recall it zooming it more than practical most of the time, while the 2D felt about right. Really though, if I had the choice between way scaled back, or no dynmap at all, I'd still choose way scaled back for the navigation and locating of un-generated chunks, while zooming in is only really useful for viewing structures which is already limited due to not every block having dynmap textures.

tl;dr: please don't take away dynmap completely

[Maestro]

I'm not seeing how this is possible...but the deletion is still going on, guys

I have no idea when it will be done either

[Rhinox]

/inb4 M missed clicking yes on the "are you sure you want to permanently delete 15,432,524 files" dialog box hidden behind another window

[Maestro]

that's exactly what I clicked yes to - I said that no matter what we're deleting all dynmap renders and switching to lowres, but I didn't realize it would take a full 20 hours to delete them all. I mean, I know that at some point while I was sleeping my connection got cut or something, but this has still been going for at least 10 hours now and I actually don't see any significant progress...

[Maestro]

Thanks! At some point I might get around to trying out FTB. BTW, does vanilla still have dynmap or is that gone?

yeah, as Tierce said - we're running the lastest snapshot now so that we can keep Vanilla bleeding edge while all this Redstone shit is sorted out. a lot of Mods and plugins may break with 1.6 too, so we may eventually have Bukkit on there again, but not for the foreseeable future

[Rhinox]

that's exactly what I clicked yes to - I said that no matter what we're deleting all dynmap renders and switching to lowres, but I didn't realize it would take a full 20 hours to delete them all. I mean, I know that at some point while I was sleeping my connection got cut or something, but this has still been going for at least 10 hours now and I actually don't see any significant progress...

Just spitballing a couple of ideas...

If I click on my dynmap shortcut I go to a page that loads a black screen. When the dynmap has been down in the past, I'd get a straight "Page not found" error - is it possible its having trouble deleting stuff because something is still running?

If it stopped making progress, would it be worth cancelling and restarting? everything it already deleted

should

still be deleted right? I know if I do a move operation and cancel half way through, whatever was already moved stayed moved. Same with a copy - if I cancel half way through, whatever was copied was copied. Delete should work the same right? Maybe that would get it going again if it hung up when you lost your connection?

[fuzzybutternut]

They're currently downgrading it right now, Rhinox.

[Maestro]

that's exactly what I clicked yes to - I said that no matter what we're deleting all dynmap renders and switching to lowres, but I didn't realize it would take a full 20 hours to delete them all. I mean, I know that at some point while I was sleeping my connection got cut or something, but this has still been going for at least 10 hours now and I actually don't see any significant progress...

Just spitballing a couple of ideas...

If I click on my dynmap shortcut I go to a page that loads a black screen. When the dynmap has been down in the past, I'd get a straight "Page not found" error - is it possible its having trouble deleting stuff because something is still running?

If it stopped making progress, would it be worth cancelling and restarting? everything it already deleted

should

still be deleted right? I know if I do a move operation and cancel half way through, whatever was already moved stayed moved. Same with a copy - if I cancel half way through, whatever was copied was copied. Delete should work the same right? Maybe that would get it going again if it hung up when you lost your connection?

Nothing's running - I'm backing up/gutting/deleting shit from FTBBot as we speak
and I actually get the "page not found" error you speak of...

[Rhinox]

Hey guys so... while we're waiting for the server I was wondering if you guys can give me some ideas for how to turn spawners into grinders for items? I found a zombie/spider double dungeon in the cave system under my base and I have a skellie spawner to add to it. I'd really like to make a grinder out of 'em but I've never done it before. Any tips for me? I'd like for it to automatically deposit items into storage for me, so that as long as I'm working at my base the grinder will be running collecting items for me.

[fuzzybutternut]

Klaz knows all about grinders. As him. x)

I personally can't design one to save my life.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I know how to build that!

I have a design that is pretty compact for killing. I think you need, 2D, 9x14 or 9x18 with the spawner(s) in the middle.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

No need for long drops anything, passive killing so no exp, but builds up pretty quickly when you're in the area.

Also, it can be set up for both passive and xp grinding, so when you feel like having xp, you can. And drops are safe, meaning no cactus or lava involved.

[Klazam]

mfrl grinder

melee turtles

2 great options

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Or that fancy shit. ^^^

[Rhinox]

klaz: any vanilla ideas? I don't have turtles or mfrl grinders, and i'm not sure I want to invest the time crafting and learning them now when I'm still trying to invest time and resources into other things.

etl: care to share your method or just tease me with it?

[Klazam]

for vanilla- I much prefer my drop grinder- make a vertical 1x1 shaft up 23 blocks, then a little horzional, then a drop of 23 blocks.

have water pushing all mobs in the vertical shaft, then have sign at bottom of that, then water, then sign, then water and so on. make sure water doesn't spill out in main room- use signs to prevent that.

mobs will be tricked on thinking they're drowning and swim upwards to the top of the shaft, where water pushes them to the drop. and since there's a sign blocking water going down, the mobs will just fall down and land at .5 heart or die. if you want auto death, just have the drop be 24 blocks, and put obsidan pipe at the base to collect all drops and put in a chest.

[Rhinox]

That will work for the skellies and zombies... what about the spiders? they won't fit in 1x1 holes.

[Klazam]

break the spider spawner.

or you can use the grinder I have in vanilla. go in my house and in the enchanting room. look in basement.

tL;dr: spiders sux

[Rhinox]

but I need sting and this modpack no haz flax

[izakthegoomba]

Yeah, it's damn near impossible to make a good "fat spider" farm. Believe me, I've tried - they're so inefficient they're only good if you're playing UHC or something and you really need an XP farm. Cave Spiders are a bit better, but still only worthwhile if you can get a bunch of them together.