1116 - Literally Anything uPick

[Doombunny9]

Remember our good friend Chrono? Turns out she went all Ant on us and is posting in other games not this one.

I've been updating my system and I lost the bookmark for this, Surprised I didn't get poked.

Only this one? I find that hard to believe.

Also, some questions toward Ant when he gets up to his catchup post:

What are your views on Plum?
What are your views on Leo?
Who do you think is the scummiest person right now?

For town, their vote is all they have, short of town aligned PR's. The only reason town has to not place their vote is if they feel someone is more scummy, or they person in question is either at L-1, or in danger of being otherwise quickhammered. As of the time of Powers vote, Leo was at L-3, and, as one can plainly see, Leo is his highest scumread, so neither of the above limit him so.

How does make chrono different from some other people (i.e. me, Zang) who just weren't/aren't voting because they don't/didn't have any strong reads yet?

[Zodiark13]

For town, their vote is all they have, short of town aligned PR's. The only reason town has to not place their vote is if they feel someone is more scummy, or they person in question is either at L-1, or in danger of being otherwise quickhammered. As of the time of Powers vote, Leo was at L-3, and, as one can plainly see, Leo is his highest scumread, so neither of the above limit him so.

How does make chrono different from some other people (i.e. me, Zang) who just weren't/aren't voting because they don't/didn't have any strong reads yet?

First of all, I'm refering to Powerrox, not Chronopie. Second, Power DOES have a read on Leo, as he admits. You and Zang(not that I've been paying much attention to him) don't have reads.

[Powerrox93]

I've been turning this over in my head for the last several days, and the conclusion I've come up with is this. This isn't something town would say. For town, their vote is all they have, short of town aligned PR's. The only reason town has to not place their vote is if they feel someone is more scummy, or they person in question is either at L-1, or in danger of being otherwise quickhammered. As of the time of Powers vote, Leo was at L-3, and, as one can plainly see, Leo is his highest scumread, so neither of the above limit him so. I read his post and I see: "I feel Leo is worthy of suspicion, but don't want to be seen as responsible when/if Leo flips town". Only scum, or a noob townie, would think as such.

Therefore;

Unvote
Vote:Powerrox93

So... Should I call everyone that has made a few bad posts scum?

[Zodiark13]

I've been turning this over in my head for the last several days, and the conclusion I've come up with is this. This isn't something town would say. For town, their vote is all they have, short of town aligned PR's. The only reason town has to not place their vote is if they feel someone is more scummy, or they person in question is either at L-1, or in danger of being otherwise quickhammered. As of the time of Powers vote, Leo was at L-3, and, as one can plainly see, Leo is his highest scumread, so neither of the above limit him so. I read his post and I see: "I feel Leo is worthy of suspicion, but don't want to be seen as responsible when/if Leo flips town". Only scum, or a noob townie, would think as such.

Therefore;

Unvote
Vote:Powerrox93

So... Should I call everyone that has made a few bad posts scum?

Nice attempt to dodge the point there.

[Ghostlin]

I've been turning this over in my head for the last several days, and the conclusion I've come up with is this. This isn't something town would say. For town, their vote is all they have, short of town aligned PR's. The only reason town has to not place their vote is if they feel someone is more scummy, or they person in question is either at L-1, or in danger of being otherwise quickhammered. As of the time of Powers vote, Leo was at L-3, and, as one can plainly see, Leo is his highest scumread, so neither of the above limit him so. I read his post and I see: "I feel Leo is worthy of suspicion, but don't want to be seen as responsible when/if Leo flips town". Only scum, or a noob townie, would think as such.

Therefore;

Unvote
Vote:Powerrox93

So... Should I call everyone that has made a few bad posts scum?

Well, if you could phrase it and make it effective plus apply pressure somehow, you'd be doing a little thing we call in the business called 'scum hunting'.

[Leo]

Leo makes a note of the fact that Powerrocks is not active lurking any more.
Leo

unvotes

and

votes Chronopie

.

Again, is that all?

Leo laughs and nods in a way that suggests there's more visible than you appear to see.

He's going to be hard to read if he doesn't back up his vote reasoning.

Here's a fun fact for you all. Ant has been posting in other games but not this one.

SC:

Do you think Leo is going to be harder to read than a lurker like AntB?

Leo nods at the nail which AurorusVox has hit on the head (Leo indicates uncertainty that they are using this analogy correctly.) Leo expresses skepticism at the premise that by playing loosely and stating a small number of reasons Leo is harder to read -- or scummier -- than someone who plays tightly but types up a "reason".

Also, some questions toward Ant when he gets up to his catchup post:

What are your views on Plum?
What are your views on Leo?
Who do you think is the scummiest person right now?

Leo reads this and clicks "Like".

Leo smiles favorably at doombunny.
Leo smiles moderately at zodiark13.
Leo frowns at Chronopie.
Leo expresses displeasure at Strangercoug's post 89.

[VasudeVa]

Vote Count 1.3.

Players still alive and voting!

AurorousVox [L-7]
PowerRox93 [L-5] -Zang, Zodiark13
Zodiark13 [L-7]
Chronopie [L-6] - Plum
AntB [L-6] - Ghostlin
Ghostlin [L-5] - Framm 18, Leo
Plum [L-7] -
Zang [L-7] -
Framm 18 [L-7] -

StrangerCoug [L-4] - PowerRox93, Doombunny9, AurorusVox

Cogito Ergo Sum [L-7] -
Doombunny9 [L-7] -

Leo [L-4]- Chronopie, Cogito Ergo Sum, StrangerCoug

Not Voting: No one.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

D1's Deadline is at Feb 21, 2010. The countdown can be viewed here

Zang and Framm18 are dangerously close to being prodded.

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[StrangerCoug]

No. Neither are going to be of any help to us.

Then why vote Leo over Ant? I for one would think that someone who at least does something should deserve to live longer than someone who ignores the game completely.

I only invoke Lynch All Lurkers if I have to to get anywhere (in fact, I don't like policy lynches other than Lynch All Liars myself). The observation that AntB is posting elsewhere is taken into account, but I wanted to see where my current lead went. He's starting to improve, so UNVOTE: Leo.

Vote: stranger

Including what I've said before about him, even if he just wants to policy lynch Leo/Ant, he should still be scumhunting.

Do I have my definition of "policy lynch" messed up? To me, policy lynching somebody is lynching somebody who does something specific no matter the context. Leo refuses to back up the reasons for his votes, which I consider to be scummy. In RVS, it's all fine and dandy, but once there's info rolling people should be commenting on it. Therefore, I feel that I am scumhunting, even if Leo was the only person I was attacking at the moment.

Remember our good friend Chrono? Turns out she went all Ant on us and is posting in other games not this one.

The last time I checked, Chronopie is male, but thanks for the observation.

I've been turning this over in my head for the last several days, and the conclusion I've come up with is this. This isn't something town would say. For town, their vote is all they have, short of town aligned PR's. The only reason town has to not place their vote is if they feel someone is more scummy, or they person in question is either at L-1, or in danger of being otherwise quickhammered. As of the time of Powers vote, Leo was at L-3, and, as one can plainly see, Leo is his highest scumread, so neither of the above limit him so. I read his post and I see: "I feel Leo is worthy of suspicion, but don't want to be seen as responsible when/if Leo flips town". Only scum, or a noob townie, would think as such.

Therefore;

Unvote
Vote:Powerrox93

So... Should I call everyone that has made a few bad posts scum?

This reaction comes off wrong. The defense is clearly... I'm not going to say inadequate. I'm going to say absent.
VOTE: Powerrox93

[Framm 18]

Sorry, school has been busier than expected.

I am going to do a reread and make a post tomorrow hopefully.

[Doombunny9]

First of all, I'm refering to Powerrox, not Chronopie.

That was me not thinking when I made that post and typing someone completely different. I knew/know who you were referring to XD

Second, Power DOES have a read on Leo, as he admits. You and Zang(not that I've been paying much attention to him) don't have reads.

I've had plenty of reads on people. They were just too weak to go off of.

Do I have my definition of "policy lynch" messed up? To me, policy lynching somebody is lynching somebody who does something specific no matter the context. Leo refuses to back up the reasons for his votes, which I consider to be scummy. In RVS, it's all fine and dandy, but once there's info rolling people should be commenting on it. Therefore, I feel that I am scumhunting, even if Leo was the only person I was attacking at the moment.

You got it correct. You said you were going to vote Leo for not providing explainations (aka. something specific) despite him always doing it (aka. no matter the context). Your reasoning for Ant is the similar, the only reasoning being that he's not posting (see: Lynch all Lurkers; A policy scheme of voting). Your cases on Leo and Ant just look like you're trying to get hinderances out of the way rather than actually thinkng that they're scum.

The last time I checked, Chronopie is male, but thanks for the observation.

meh, my bad

[StrangerCoug]

Do I have my definition of "policy lynch" messed up? To me, policy lynching somebody is lynching somebody who does something specific no matter the context. Leo refuses to back up the reasons for his votes, which I consider to be scummy. In RVS, it's all fine and dandy, but once there's info rolling people should be commenting on it. Therefore, I feel that I am scumhunting, even if Leo was the only person I was attacking at the moment.

You got it correct. You said you were going to vote Leo for not providing explainations (aka. something specific) despite him always doing it (aka. no matter the context). Your reasoning for Ant is the similar, the only reasoning being that he's not posting (see: Lynch all Lurkers; A policy scheme of voting).

OK, this line of thinking makes sense.

[AntB]

I can't wait to see what Leos pick was to put a "Talk in 3rd-person only" post-restriction, I have a feeling his restriction could also be whats limiting his responses, otherwise I don't see the fuss.

Upto now, powerox "ok everyone who makes posts bad is scum" and #77 is whats jumping at me at the moment. (VOTE: Powerox93)

CES' Dayprotect also has me thinking there is a link of some sort between him and plum. WIll be observing.

@Leo
As best as you can, articulate why you voted or try and give us a reason why you can't.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Hunch.

Unvote, vote: AntB

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Uh.

I meant

Unvote, vote: StrangerCoug

.

[Ghostlin]

Unvote

Vote: Powerrox93

I can only agree with my fellow town mates that not only is PR not scum hunting, his defense post was lame and designed to stop the rest of us from scumhunting. I'm removing my vote from Ant because now he actually is participating somewhat; and yeah, lurking to the point of prod < scummy defense that goes in essence 'well, are you going to vote anyone else suspicious?'

[Leo]

"Talk in 3rd-person only" post-restriction

Leo shakes their head in response to this guess.

I have a feeling his restriction could also be whats limiting his responses

Leo points back to hair trigger mafia and how you viewed Leo's "limited responses" in that game.

Upto now, powerox "ok everyone who makes posts bad is scum" and #77 is whats jumping at me at the moment. (VOTE: Powerox93)

Leo ponders this comment.
Leo indicates approval of the Power rocks wagon but doesn't make any voting changes.

As best as you can, articulate why you voted or try and give us a reason why you can't.

Leo waits.

[Leo]

Leo points out some things that may help the ant in determining Leo's post restriction...

"Talk in 3rd-person only" post-restriction

Leo

shakes their head

in response to this guess.

I have a feeling his restriction could also be whats limiting his responses

Leo

points

back to hair trigger mafia and how you viewed Leo's "limited responses" in that game.

Upto now, powerox "ok everyone who makes posts bad is scum" and #77 is whats jumping at me at the moment. (VOTE: Powerox93)

Leo

ponders

this comment.
Leo

indicates

approval of the Power rocks wagon but doesn't make any voting changes.

As best as you can, articulate why you voted or try and give us a reason why you can't.

Leo

waits

.

Leo

says nothing

.

[StrangerCoug]

Why does post #116 remind me of a text RPG?

[Zang]

Leo makes a note of the fact that Powerrocks is not active lurking any more.
Leo unvotes and votes Chronopie.

Your voting someone for not posting content at the beginning of page 3?

I am irritated by your lack of votes altogether (assuming the Vote Count was incorrect and you're the only one not voting, yes?). However if you're consistent it's null, and you get a boost for the fun fact. I found it fun.

Why is it bad to not be voting someone? If you don't have any strong scum reads then you shouldn't vote.

First of all, I'm refering to Powerrox, not Chronopie. Second, Power DOES have a read on Leo, as he admits. You and Zang(not that I've been paying much attention to him) don't have reads.

I said that Leo is my strongest read but that I would still consider it null.

So... Should I call everyone that has made a few bad posts scum?

That's not even close to why he is voting you. He is voting you for having Leo as a scummy read but no voting for him.

[Doombunny9]

I can't wait to see what Leos pick was to put a "Talk in 3rd-person only" post-restriction,

*sigh*

I have a feeling his restriction could also be whats limiting his responses, otherwise I don't see the fuss.

Have you even been reading the thread? I recommend post 67 in particular. This looks even more fishy seeing as how Leo seems to be indicating he's played with you before...

I can see reasoning for the power wagon and it looks good but I'm happy keeping my vote here for the time being.

@CES-Erm... This is it? I reckon at least one or two people asked you about why you protected Plum. You could at the very least answer that.

[Zodiark13]

I'm just going to ask this before I head over to a friends for the afternoon; Leo, is there a restriction on the number of posts you can make?

[VasudeVa]

Whoever saw this post,

you saw nothing

.

[Ghostlin]

Guys, I think Leo can't talk. What I mean is, he has to express anything through actions, much like a mime. That doesn't make him protown, it just makes his role with an odd flavor. It also changes nothing, so I recommend we stop fishing.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

@CES-Erm... This is it? I reckon at least one or two people asked you about why you protected Plum. You could at the very least answer that.

My action speaks for itself.

[Powerrox93]

First, to clear my RVS vote UNVOTE:

He is voting you for having Leo as a scummy read but no voting for him.

But what if a read isn't scummy enough in order to be worthy a vote?