Final Fire wrote:Now, I can promise you guys that I'm not scum, and I wouldn't bring up this point and cast suspicion on myself if I was. So if we eliminate my name from that list of yos. Both of those lists seem like they might be viable as the teams of mafia. Here's what I propose we do. Tonight we vote off one person who voted for yos - if they're innocent, let the other two go. If they're scum, pick off the other two. If tonight's execution is an innocent, then we move on to the next list of people. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Yes, I do - Final Fires.Nikanor wrote:Does anyone have a suggestion as to whom I should vote?
lol.Final Fires wrote:Unvote: Yosari
Actually, now that I think about it, killing him off might not be such a good idea. (I assume) if he remains inactive he'll eventually be modkilled - lynching him would be a waste of our execution. And even if he's not modkilled, he won't be using any of his powers. As it is, he'll just have no influence on the game, and he's not worth killing off.
In a game of this size, is it safe to assume that there are about 3 mafia, give or take? I think it's pretty suspicious that three people have voted for him, without a lot of reasoning, while everyone else has just voted randomly. This is my first mafia game on this board, so I'm not sure how communication works between the mafia here. I've looked into a few other games here and it seems like suspicion is always cast on those people who try to draw out the first day - although I admit I don't completely understand why.
People who voted for Yos: Albert, Whiskey, Darla, and Me
People who haven't posted yet: Brokenscraps, Yosarian2
Now, I can promise you guys that I'm not scum, and I wouldn't bring up this point and cast suspicion on myself if I was. So if we eliminate my name from that list of yos. Both of those lists seem like they might be viable as the teams of mafia. Here's what I propose we do. Tonight we vote off one person who voted for yos - if they're innocent, let the other two go. If they're scum, pick off the other two. If tonight's execution is an innocent, then we move on to the next list of people. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Like I said earlier though, this is my first game of mafia here and I could've made a huge logical fallicy somewhere. But as of now, it seems like that's the best lead that we've got. If anyone else has a better idea, or the people who voted for Yos have a good explanation, I would be glad to change my vote.
Vote: Albert
um, it'sFinal Fires wrote:Unvote: Yosari
Actually, now that I think about it, killing him off might not be such a good idea. (I assume) if he remains inactive he'll eventually be modkilled - lynching him would be a waste of our execution. And even if he's not modkilled, he won't be using any of his powers. As it is, he'll just have no influence on the game, and he's not worth killing off.
In a game of this size, is it safe to assume that there are about 3 mafia, give or take? I think it's pretty suspicious that three people have voted for him, without a lot of reasoning, while everyone else has just voted randomly. This is my first mafia game on this board, so I'm not sure how communication works between the mafia here. I've looked into a few other games here and it seems like suspicion is always cast on those people who try to draw out the first day - although I admit I don't completely understand why.
People who voted for Yos: Albert, Whiskey, Darla, and Me
People who haven't posted yet: Brokenscraps, Yosarian2
Now, I can promise you guys that I'm not scum, and I wouldn't bring up this point and cast suspicion on myself if I was. So if we eliminate my name from that list of yos. Both of those lists seem like they might be viable as the teams of mafia. Here's what I propose we do. Tonight we vote off one person who voted for yos - if they're innocent, let the other two go. If they're scum, pick off the other two. If tonight's execution is an innocent, then we move on to the next list of people. Rinse, lather, repeat.
Like I said earlier though, this is my first game of mafia here and I could've made a huge logical fallicy somewhere. But as of now, it seems like that's the best lead that we've got. If anyone else has a better idea, or the people who voted for Yos have a good explanation, I would be glad to change my vote.
Vote: Albert
Did you preview edit any of your post besides the final bit?DarlaBlueEyes wrote:lol.
Okay. Obv n00b is obv.
Though I am getting scummy vibes off that entire post, I want a little more evidence before I throw in a vote and make a bandwagon. Though he's at the top of my list already.
Here's a (not so pro) tip: promising you're not scum and expecting that to be enough = not gonna work.
Edit: Grahg! Ninja'd. Damn my distract-able self.
Horror! Oh the horror of softclaiming! Combined with that all time favorite "lynch me and you'll be sorry".Final Fires wrote:Let me just say though, if you vote me off, you won't only be voting off a townie, but a powerful townie at that. If you have to lynch me tonight then fine, but afterwards maybe you'll take my accusations seriously.
Yep, that is strange. I don't know what to make of rekirtS vote even more, now.Jahudo wrote:I just noticed that Empking's signup page had 15 people /in, the #9 slot was used twice. So somehow that meant Flinter is not in the game even though she did /in?
This is bad reasoning. Even if youFinal Fires wrote:If you have to lynch me tonight then fine, but afterwards maybe you'll take my accusations seriously.
Why so insistent about telling Final Fires what to do? That surely looked like an instruction as opposed to advice to a new player.Pomegranate wrote:um, it'sRVS, SO SHUT UP
Allow me to paraphrase: "No! We spent so much time laying down our scum-plans and now you have to go and ruin everything during the RVS!!!"Pomegranate 31 wrote:um, it's RVS, SO SHUT UP
Why hold back your vote? Only two people had voted for him and seven would be required for a lynch. Like pom's post, this comment is kind of pointless. "I think he's scummy, but I'll let everybody else do all the work. ho hum."DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Though I am getting scummy vibes off that entire post, I want a little more evidence before I throw in a vote and make a bandwagon. Though he's at the top of my list already.
He said this after giving some pointers to Final Fires. Jahudo, if you think that Final Fires is not scum, then what do you think of Pom and Darla?Jahudo 35 wrote:I'm not getting a scummy vibe off Final Fires right now. Trying to take the lead and be proactive comes across as a natural townie response, even if his suggestion of grouping people together and lynching based on that is really flimsy reasoning for lynching.
Yikes! First of all, let me apologize if anything I said offended you. The joke with your name wasn't intended to be personal by any means, and I really am sorry if you took it that way. However, there's no reason to be hostile because I was speculating who might be scum.Pomegranate wrote: um, it'sRVS, SO SHUT UP
I didn't intend my post to be arrogant or to 'act like i had a game winning revelation'. That's why at the bottom I put:DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Noob town /=/ powerful townie. Beyond that I don't like your play at all, and your backtracking explanations don't sit well with me either. I'd have rather your vote sat on Yos than you act like you had some kind of mega-game-winning revelation in which you declare yourself 100% town and everyone else who's enjoying some RVS shenanigans scummy.
Final Fires wrote:Like I said earlier though, this is my first game of mafia here and I could've made a huge logical fallicy somewhere. But as of now, it seems like that's the best lead that we've got. If anyone else has a better idea, or the people who voted for Yos have a good explanation, I would be glad to change my vote.
First of all Jahudo, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this to me. In the forum where I played before, the mafia games worked very differently. The days were 24 hours long, so the need to get a majority quickly was much more urgent, so as a result we didn't have an 'RVS'. Every vote was much more urgent and meaningful - which is why I mistook the three people voting as 'teaming together'. You could also communicate outside of the thread, so revealing your role and powers, as well as claiming your innocence was extremely important if you wanted to stay alive. However I understand now how doing what would've saved me there ended up digging me my own grave over here.Jahudo wrote:Hey Final Fires welcome to the site. A couple of things:
1) Its still really early in Day 1 to call Yos inactive, and he'll most likely show up in a day or so, but if not its the mod's job to prod people that haven't made any posts in 72 hours or so. And this isn't a "BaM ruleset" so flakers would get replaced instead of modkilled.
2) Random Vote Stage (RVS) happens the first few pages to start getting information but its generally accepted that no one would have enough confidence or evidence to lynch someone yet. That usually takes a few weeks and tens of pages of case making and wagon building/falling/switching, etc.
3) Saying you're town, saying you would play scum differently than how you are playing now, saying that people will regret lynching you, or hinting that you may have a night ability generally don't help you. At worst people will scummy and want to lynch you more.
Yeah, as soon as I voted for yos I regreted it. I just saw a majority doing it and jumped on - but then I realized yos was the only one who had 'randomly' gotten more than one vote. Not a single other person had more than vote. I just assumed this was a team effort, and clumped the three together. It seemed like a logical conclusion at the time. Plus I really wanted to spark conversation and discussion about who could be evil.MoreWhisky wrote:Final fires you got to laugh how your reasoning has everyone apart from you who voted for Yos as most probaly the scum, we just started. If the game was a bit older you would have my vote for that.
Very true. But next round it will at least give you a place to start discussion. Maybe a better way to phrase it would've been "maybe you'll reconsider my accusations". It's true that my accusations are weak, but I don't think you could make a case against anyone that isn't flimsy at this point. No matter what we have to kill someone off, and I realize my evidence is far from perfect, but we have to start somewhere.DLG wrote:This is bad reasoning. Even if youFinal Fires wrote:If you have to lynch me tonight then fine, but afterwards maybe you'll take my accusations seriously.aretown and were lynched right this second, your accusations are not thereby made more accurate (except in that the potential pool of suspects has just been reduced by one player). Town alignment does not equal omnisicience.
Wouldn't a long, drawn out post accusing others of being scum look much more scummy than simply voting for yos? My motives weren't to look 'less scummy', but instead point out an observation I made, for what I thought was a better vote.Bub Bidderskins wrote: I get the feeling that he voted Yos and the he looked back on his vote and thought that it looked scummy, so he had to invent a BS reason to unvote.
Honestly, I simply meant to tell you to stop being so serious, and although it may have seemed hostile, it wasn't meant to be. I have a null-overeager-newb read on you ATM.Final Fires wrote:Yikes! First of all, let me apologize if anything I said offended you. The joke with your name wasn't intended to be personal by any means, and I really am sorry if you took it that way. However, there's no reason to be hostile because I was speculating who might be scum.Pomegranate wrote: um, it'sRVS, SO SHUT UP
They both seemed to recognize him as a n00b, so I can see what Pom and Darla were thinking about him when they wrote their posts. It doesn't answer why Pom didn't seem to want to generate more discussion about FF's words, or why Darla wants to make a confident vote next instead of a vote based on a vibe.Bub Bidderskins wrote:Jahudo, if you think that Final Fires is not scum, then what do you think of Pom and Darla?
@More Whisky: Do you mean he would be vote worthy if he made those posts later in the game, or that you are not ready to vote? If you think he's scummy I don't see why you aren't voting him.More Whisky wrote:If the game was a bit older you would have my vote for that.
