Mini 1111: Wait Your Turn, Tex! (GAME OVER)

[Katsuki]

Fate is dumb sometimes, but this isn't atypical for his town game

I disagree. I find this game varies from the times I've played with fate-town. While not exactly matching his scum game, there are things that I feel are off.

Not to mention, the two times my gut said fate was scum, he flipped anti-town both times (once neutral).

[Fate]

I'll admit I haven't been posting as naturally as I normally would, and to be completely honest its because I'm trying to make a good impression on Flay.

Hilarity has ensued though and I have half the game callimg me dumb???

Katsuki I wanted a policy lynch on you so that I could live to use my shot, is that so wrong?
(correction: Is that so scummy?)

[Fate]

It just shows how little you know of FATE-META (if there were such a thing), because I always do crazy anti-town things in order to survive. Because having me alive is the most pro-town thing in my view /grin

[Katsuki]

The fact that you wanted a lynch on me because you thought that I'd vig you as town, then I'd say, yes, it is scummy.

[Katsuki]

It just shows how little you know of FATE-META (if there were such a thing), because I always do crazy anti-town things in order to survive. Because having me alive is the most pro-town thing in my view /grin

The funny thing is that I'm usually able to differentiate between the two (town or scum).

[Hoopla]

For what it's worth, the casual role-info dropping should probably cease, because we want as many N2 vigs alive for tomorrow to give us good chances of winning the game. Telegraphing who's even and who's odd to scum is a bad move. Unless of course this is your subtle way of wifom'ing the scums, in which case, continue (don't really).

[Fate]

Now your taking things out of context, Katsuki. I said you'd vig me as town, OR scum. There's no guarantee that you're town this game, which means having you dead instead of me tonight is more pro-town from my point of view (as I am confirmed to myself).

I can't read you for shit. In fact, I haven't even SEEN a game with you AS town so its safer just to lynch you. And if that lynch means I get to survive to N2 AND has a chance at hitting scum, then that's all I care about. (Plus your OMGUS vote just feeled so FORCED whereas it was geniune in that Dream game we played, this just reads as you trying to "copy" that pre-existing meta of OMGUSing me and "finding me scummy")

(I was jut about to claim here but Hoopla has apparently said I should stop that so I've removed it. Oops maybe I am dumb >_>)

[Fate]

It just shows how little you know of FATE-META (if there were such a thing), because I always do crazy anti-town things in order to survive. Because having me alive is the most pro-town thing in my view /grin

The funny thing is that I'm usually able to differentiate between the two (town or scum).

You may be able to differentiate between when my posting feels FORCED and when it is real, that does not ALWAYS correlate to town/scum (it usually does).

As I said this game I was posting oddly because I was trying to avoid a 10-page spam fest between me and someone (notably UA, Xalve, and here we are you and me katsuki) to try and show Flay that the impression he has of me is wrong.

That has apparently backfired and my play is coming off ass n00bscum.... which saddens me.

At least Hoopla knows and can appreaciate the genius of my scumplay.

[Katsuki]

Yes, I realized you said town or scum. Needless to say I know my alignment, hence I found that statement of yours so scummy.
Translation of your statement:

"Kat will vig me as town anyways so I'd rather lynch Kat than convince Kat I am town."

As for your second statement of having never played with town me, that's just pure BS. I was town in both the games you flipped scum, Magician Mafia, and probably some other games I can't think of off the top of my head.

Also, how was this game OMGUS? I'm curious, as wanting you dead for what I feel are scum statements =/= OMGUS. I like how you're trying to shape it up as such though.

P-EDIT: Your play being forced is what I've been saying. Your stupidity feels forced.

[Fate]

Oh you were town in Magician's? I'm pretty sure you replaced in AFTER I was gone, oh and, by the way, your play was ATROCIOUS that time and probably single-handedly cost us the game.

Cuz you got lynched AND didn't reveal important information. And what other games? Where I was a lyncher? Don't even remember focusing on your play there at all because, oh yeah, I was a LYNCHER. As for the OTHER game you are referring to, you yourself admit that I WAS SCUM. Being TOWN with someone, and actively trying to figure out their alignment is COMPLETELY different from being scum when someone is town, because you don't look at their play the same way. And there are no other games you can think of, you've always been scum.

Its OMGUS because I voted you and then you went "oh wow you really ARE scum" and this was BEFORE I revealed my reasons for voting you.

And I don't know what the fuck to make of your last point. My STUPIDITY feels forced? I'm not even TRYING to be stupid, nor do I even SEE where I have done stupid things (sans almost claiming because I didn't see the harm it in at that time) because-as you can see-UA and whoever else has called me dumb has failed to point me toward any specific examples or posts I have made.

[AGar]

Guys, let's lynch Fate.

I feel good about this one.

[AGar]

The whole Fate-Kats argument feels like bullshit is seeping out of Fates side. Kats is remaining fairly level-headed here.

[Fate]

Ah what the hell?

I coulda SWORN you were voting me from the RVS still and hadn't checked in yet.

You're actually calling me scum?

[Fate]

Fate do you realize:

A. I had my avatar first.
B. I am way more relevant than either of you.
C. You have a vacuous posts.

D. Fritz has been here longer
E. His av is different enough that it's easy enough to tell the difference between the two
F. He's not a huge douche like Tans

I had to look up the word vacuous.

G. Fritz carried us in Halo. Tans did not.
H. I got nothing.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fate

For obvious ignorance of the fact that my avatar is also similar. WHACHAAAAA

mhmmmm. My memory does serve.

[AGar]

Fate do you realize:

A. I had my avatar first.
B. I am way more relevant than either of you.
C. You have a vacuous posts.

D. Fritz has been here longer
E. His av is different enough that it's easy enough to tell the difference between the two
F. He's not a huge douche like Tans

I had to look up the word vacuous.

G. Fritz carried us in Halo. Tans did not.
H. I got nothing.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fate

For obvious ignorance of the fact that my avatar is also similar. WHACHAAAAA

mhmmmm. My memory does serve.

Yes it does. Only now I'm calling you scum. Is there a problem with that?

[Fate]

Third Vote Count of Day One

PokerFace - 4 (UltimaAvalon, Fate, Cogito Ergo Sum, Fritzler)
Fate - 4 (Katsuki, AGar, Xalxe, Sudo_Nym)
Xalxe - 3 (scotmany12, Hoopla, PokerFace)
Katsuki - 1 (chamber)

Not Voting: nobody!

With twelve alive, seven votes will be needed to lynch.

If Katsuki and me is town on town (which am I beginning to feel it is, as Katsuki reads more of that person who is over-confident about their meta skills due to the recentness of the game I was scum with her in), then yeah I'd say AGar is scum with PokerFace.

He rolls up, already has his vote on the biggest counter-wagon to PF, and then justifies it with "Katsuki makes sense, Fate is bullshitting" which is weak, WITHOUT commenting on the rest of the game.

PokerFace/AGar/

I'm not so sure about this pokerface wagon. Really think xaixe is the play.

scotmany/??? (Beginning to doubt my xalve read)

P-EDIT: Yeah, the problem is you're scum coasting on my wagon.

[PokerFace]

36 hour postings and 7 day deadlines, strict game requirements indeed. I got alot to do tonight but i should get a chance to post thursday evening

[Fritzler]

1st thing: AGar, we are playing halo tonight, you in?

Ah what the hell?

I coulda SWORN you were voting me from the RVS still and hadn't checked in yet.

You're actually calling me scum?

I am. I mean, I know I'm town, and 4 out of the 11 of you are scum. You're probably one of them.

[Fate]

1st thing: AGar, we are playing halo tonight, you in?

Ah what the hell?

I coulda SWORN you were voting me from the RVS still and hadn't checked in yet.

You're actually calling me scum?

I am. I mean, I know I'm town, and 4 out of the 11 of you are scum. You're probably one of them.

This post makes NO FUCKING SENSE AND IM STARTING TO GO INTO RAGE MODE, FLAY BE DAMNED.

[Post showing AGar's sudden Fate-scum read after his RVS vote's convience]
[Quote said post and say "hey I know im town youre probably scum cause of PERCENTAGES LYULOOLOL]

IS THIS GAME GONNA BE A SCUMCHAT BUDDYFEST OR ARE YOU CLOWNS ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY AND WIN?

BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER TOWN READ ON AGAR THAN ME RIGHT NOW, YOURE ACTUALLY WORSE THAN TANSTALAS AND IT WOULD BE AN INSULT TO HIM TO CALL YOU BY THAT NAME.

[scotmany12]

My computer is broken. Am currently posting using my iPod. I will hopefully get my computer fixed soon. I'll try to keep up.

[Katsuki]

Oh you were town in Magician's? I'm pretty sure you replaced in AFTER I was gone, oh and, by the way, your play was ATROCIOUS that time and probably single-handedly cost us the game.

Cuz you got lynched AND didn't reveal important information. And what other games? Where I was a lyncher? Don't even remember focusing on your play there at all because, oh yeah, I was a LYNCHER. As for the OTHER game you are referring to, you yourself admit that I WAS SCUM. Being TOWN with someone, and actively trying to figure out their alignment is COMPLETELY different from being scum when someone is town, because you don't look at their play the same way. And there are no other games you can think of, you've always been scum.

So this is essentially a post calling my play shit.
For the record, I was in Magician's from the start.

Its OMGUS because I voted you and then you went "oh wow you really ARE scum" and this was BEFORE I revealed my reasons for voting you.

Katsuki's "ZOMG VIG FATE" reads forced as hell. Like "well shit I GOTTA fakekill Fate or else he'll get an off-meta read on me."


OH THE IRONY.

Unvote:
Vote: Katsuki

Oh shit you really are scum.

...

Unvote, Vote: Fate

If you're gonna refer to a post, put it in its context. Even here, the reasoning on your vote for me feels forced. I mean, you're referrencing my first post in the game.

All the other times where your push on me has felt fake, you flipped scum. It was most definately not an OMGUS vote on my part.

And I don't know what the fuck to make of your last point. My STUPIDITY feels forced? I'm not even TRYING to be stupid, nor do I even SEE where I have done stupid things (sans almost claiming because I didn't see the harm it in at that time) because-as you can see-UA and whoever else has called me dumb has failed to point me toward any specific examples or posts I have made.

Oh come now you have been going on this entire game about

"wanting to live past N1"

.

Thanks.

I'm trying not to die N1 this game.

This was on pg1. I doubt you're dumb enough to softclaim throughout the entire day and still hold the stance that you've

"almost claimed but haven't"

.

For example, this post is just plain silly.

(I was jut about to claim here but Hoopla has apparently said I should stop that so I've removed it. Oops maybe I am dumb >_>)

You are pushing the idea that you are an even night VERY strongly, to the point where it's not even close to being subtle anymore. Very good example of your forced stupidity thus far this game.


All this

"oops I almost claimed but just barely held back teehee"

does not seem accidental to me at all, nor something that be just simply explained away as

"teehee soz was being stupid guyz >.>b

. Accidentally claiming once, maybe. Soft-claiming over the entirety of the day? Scum.

[Fate]

Wanting to live past N1 isn't stupid, and if it is I do it all the damn time and

I

don't think its stupid unless I'm a miller or a beloved princess or something.

Also I haven't been soft-claiming-as Hoopla put it-WIFOM and misdirection. If you think I would transparently soft claim all day,

as scum

then you REALLY don't know my scummeta. I would NEVER limit my possibilities of fakeclaim by softclaiming something. So saying "softclaiming all day=scum" is ACTUALLY stupid to say, because I doubt you could find any believable scum motivation for doing something like that.

This tunneling is absurd.

All I ask is that when I flip town tonight (no you're not getting me lynched today, boohoo), you PROMISE me you won't make any future attempts in any other games to say "Fate-scummeta tehee"

[Fate]

Also I just realized Fritzler's vote is on POKERFACE whilst calling me "probscum."

Which means I'm scum "real-claiming" what I'd do as scum this game (busbusbusbus) and he's voting with me?

Now THATS a stupid stance to take.

And YES I'm calling your play shit. Your reads in this game (if you are town, hopefully for your sake yo aren't) are all based around Fate-scum-gut-tunnel and that's stupid. Your play in Magician's LOST US the game because you failed to act even a SEMBLANCE of town enough to avoid getting lynched and didn't claim vital info. THATS WHY I can't read you. I can't read terrible players that DELIBERATELY OR NOT make themselves hard to read.

[Hoopla]

Fate's pretty obviously town, and I know a dumb townie is going to shoot Fate N1 - but lets please not waste more than one bullet (preferably none, but I'm realistic) on him tonight.

[Katsuki]

Wanting to live past N1 isn't stupid, and if it is I do it all the damn time and

I

don't think its stupid unless I'm a miller or a beloved princess or something.

Also I haven't been soft-claiming-as Hoopla put it-WIFOM and misdirection. If you think I would transparently soft claim all day,

as scum

then you REALLY don't know my scummeta. I would NEVER limit my possibilities of fakeclaim by softclaiming something. So saying "softclaiming all day=scum" is ACTUALLY stupid to say, because I doubt you could find any believable scum motivation for doing something like that.

You call your play "WIFOM and misdirection", then immediately come in with a WIFOM statement right after?

It's similar to your statement of

"oh I'd busbusbus my buddies hard in this game"

, then stating

"Oh but there's no way I would bus this game AFTER I stated I bus as scum"

You're just piling on WIFOM sandwiches one after the other. It's basically like you saying "I never WIFOM".
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Erm, I got deadline lynched in Magicians. While I was in class.
How the fuck was I suppose to avoid that.

And no shit I played semi-scummy as a relatively powerful PR late in the game.

So you're trying to take my, in your eyes, "shit play" from that game and apply it here? OHO that's rich.