The Mafiascum World of Warcraft Thread

InflatablePie · Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:09 pm

I'm scared to queue a randadungeon as tank on my DK because I know I'm gonna suck. <_<

DPS isn't too bad as an Ass Rogue though. Set up poisons, Mutilate -> Slice and Dice -> Rupture/Envenom -> Envenom/Rupture -> Backstab at 35% HP or lower. Maybe throw in an Expose Armor or something if it's a huge HP boss or something.

Nightson · Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:18 pm

We tanks just lie about how hard tanking is so we can keep our insta-queues. Really tanking isn't very tricky, it's just hitting everything so you stay highest on threat and knowing how to gear reasonably well so you don't get smashed.

Later on you might need to arbitrarily pick some CC targets for the DPS to take care of.

Oman · Post Post #202 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:16 am

Tanking is hard with a bad group. I mean, it's super easy when you're all communicating and smart.

InflatablePie · Post Post #203 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:02 am

So what's the basic DK Blood rotation at Lv58 for tanking? I'm assuming run in, Plague Strike -> Pestilence (if multiple targets) -> Blood Boil -> Death/Heart Strike? Or if diseases aren't necessary, I can just run in and Blood Boil -> Death/Heart Strike, repeat as necessary. Completely clueless here.

Or should I PvE/DPS till higher levels and better abilities?

Reckamonic · Post Post #204 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:03 am

I hit level 60 yesterday.
I should probably buy the expansions...

tanstalas · Post Post #205 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:05 am

Reckamonic wrote:I hit level 60 yesterday.
I should probably buy the expansions...

I am so tempted to re-activate my account to play with you guys

xRECKONERx · Post Post #206 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:39 am

InflatablePie wrote:So what's the basic DK Blood rotation at Lv58 for tanking? I'm assuming run in, Plague Strike -> Pestilence (if multiple targets) -> Blood Boil -> Death/Heart Strike? Or if diseases aren't necessary, I can just run in and Blood Boil -> Death/Heart Strike, repeat as necessary. Completely clueless here.

Or should I PvE/DPS till higher levels and better abilities?

Blood tanking is priority based.
1. Diseases up
2. Rune Strike
3. Death Strike
4. Make sure Scarlet Fever is up if not Plague Strike, Blood Boil
5. Heart Strike
6. Icy Touch

xRECKONERx · Post Post #207 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:40 am

So, since dram has 60 free levels to give me, I'm thinkin a Goblin Shaman might be the way to go...

InflatablePie · Post Post #208 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:10 pm

xRECKONERx wrote:
InflatablePie wrote:So what's the basic DK Blood rotation at Lv58 for tanking? I'm assuming run in, Plague Strike -> Pestilence (if multiple targets) -> Blood Boil -> Death/Heart Strike? Or if diseases aren't necessary, I can just run in and Blood Boil -> Death/Heart Strike, repeat as necessary. Completely clueless here.

Or should I PvE/DPS till higher levels and better abilities?
Blood tanking is priority based.
1. Diseases up
2. Rune Strike
3. Death Strike
4. Make sure Scarlet Fever is up if not Plague Strike, Blood Boil
5. Heart Strike
6. Icy Touch

Gotcha. *takes note*

xRECKONERx wrote:So, since dram has 60 free levels to give me, I'm thinkin a Goblin Shaman might be the way to go...

Shamans are cool, I guess. Haven't played one, but they seem useful. Dunno how Goblins are because I still haven't bought Cata. <_<

popsofctown · Post Post #209 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:30 pm

Im starting WoW my roommate finally convinced me.

Dunno what class I want or will like or anything.

AGar · Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:53 am

I'm a fucking tard.

I've been playing my warrior since I started last April. I'm dual specced in Arms/Prot. Shield

Slam

is a core of the Protection Warrior tanking rotation. Shield

Bash

is a nice little quick fix move to interrupt a caster, and with 2 points in gag order, silence them for a few seconds. I just discovered Shield Slam yesterday while I was redoing my bars, since I redid my entire interface. (Bartender is pretty legit, btw) Needless to say, things are quite a bit easier now.

As for tanking - I've only done warrior tanking thus far. It's a bit difficult, but once you get the hang of it, it's fairly easy.

Trash:
If you're going to be doing any amount of AoE tanking, for the love of god, put both points in Blood and Thunder. It's a tier 1 protection talent, and if you apply rend to a target, and pop a TC, it'll spread the rend to every target in the range of TC, and rend's ticker is renewed with every TC.

Charge - Rend - Thunderclap - Shockwave to start. Transition into a rotation of TC - Shockwave - Revenge (when it's up) - Shield Slam - and Cleave if you're over 50 rage. If you maintain that, holding threat down shouldn't be an issue.

Bosses:

Start with Heroic Throw - Charge - Rend - Shield Slam. I personally like to get my 3 stacks of Sunders up before I hit anything else, to help the DPS output right off the bat. Once the fight gets rolling, I roll with Shield Slam - Revenge (on proc) - Devastate - Heroic Strike if over 50 rage. I throw down TCs as often as possible, and Devastate as often as possible as well. Keep Shield Bash nearby if you're against a caster boss. Make sure Rend is up, and it can be moved into the rotation if it's down, but TCs should keep it up fairly nicely. I like to try and keep my berserker rage up as well as Demo/Commanding shouts.

Your cooldowns are Shield Block, Shield Wall, Last Stand and Enraged Regeneration.
I use Shield Block more as a bit of a threat boost, as it ups the proc time for Revenge for that stretch of time, giving me guaranteed Revenges.

I keep Intervene and Intercept on one of my bars, part-mobility part-oh-shit buttons. Heroic Leap is a cool new trick, but not sure how it plays in yet. I enjoy it in Arms too lol.

Inner Rage I don't use much in tanking, might want to.

AGar · Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:54 am

Oh, and try and keep Spell Reflect up pretty often in caster situations. Healers love that.

TwoHeadedBoy · Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:50 am

popsofctown wrote:Im starting WoW my roommate finally convinced me.

Dunno what class I want or will like or anything.

It's dangerous to go alone. Take this.

I would recommend a Hunter, Mage or Rogue as a first class. But play whatever you think is interesting. There's really no "worst class" out there as long as you know what you're doing (or are at least trying to learn <_<).

xRECKONERx · Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:55 am

Whoever this person is above me, I want to kiss you for having such an amazing account name/avatar.

Mage or Rogue are probably the easiest starting classes. Mage is straightforward CAST SPELLS PEW PEW PEW and Rogue is straight forward GET UP IN HIS FACE AND HIT HIM WITH FAST AND AWESOME MOVES/SNEAK UP BEHIND HIM IN THE SHADOWS AND BACKSTAB HIM.

Hunter... I don't like Hunters, because pet management can get really fucking obnoxious. "Oh, I'm sad, you fed me prime rib instead of a goddamn apple! Oh, now I'm angry and doing 75% less damage because you haven't let me kill anything in a long time." Fuck off, you fucking twat.

crywolf20084 · Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:11 am

Nice reck... nice....

I am happily lvl 21 on my lock.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:31 am

Dram hit 60.99 today, but can't level any further till he gets Burning Crusade...

BLOOD ELF WARLOCK, HERE I COME! CHOOO CHOOOOOO

InflatablePie · Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:20 pm

xRECKONERx wrote:Whoever this person is above me, I want to kiss you for having such an amazing account name/avatar.

That's my hydra, created for myself and Fugitive (friend of mine, big NMH fan). I forgot to switch accounts. <_<

Also, Warrior/Paladin might be a good starting class.

Got to 58 on my DK. Almost 59. I really don't wanna level two characters through Outland, so I might just instance my DK through 60-70. Leveling up Mining and Herbalism from 0 sure is fun, though.

At least I've made a few hundred gold in the process. Wish I could get Goldthorn though - haven't checked LB's prices, but it sells for 60g per 5 over on Skullcrusher. Not a bad herb to farm.

Haven't been able to play much with work (Wed night, Thurs night, Fri night, Saturday double shift, tomorrow double), but I should have off from Monday until Friday night. Gonna spend at least one of those days grinding WoW stuffs.

Lastly, and this is probably old, but this video shows why Rogues are awesome.

Oman · Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:29 pm

AGar, keep shield block on cooldown.

The big thing about Warrior tanking is that you ARE damage mitigation. My Tankadin gets spanked and chewed for health but can keep threat easy as pie, my warrior tank fights to keep 3-4 trashites (think something like Vortex Pinnacle Trash), but the healer hardly drops mana.

In other news, starting to move into healadin as a secondary playstyle, but need to gear up for tankadin first.

IH · Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:19 pm

Yeah warrior tanks got buffed pretty hard for cata, and I have two toons right now. Both on darkspear. I have a level 84 blood elf Holy pally (Courageous), and a level 83 Tauren Warrior (Conebread). I raided a lot during wrath, and apparently both of my classes and specs are pretty good right now. If alot of people from here all wanted to level on the same server, I would also most definitely be up for that. I've always wanted to try shaman healing, but I kinda need friends to level with (a tank so we can faceroll queues)

Edit-HOLY SHIT, I have a level 30ish pally on lightnings blade. He's ret right now, but I'd totally take him holy and level/queue with you guys. I like holy anyway. I could also tank since I'm used to that on my warrior. Or I could roll a different class entirely lol.
EDITEDIT-Add me on a real id as thekolih@gmail.com

xRECKONERx · Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:34 pm

Added you, IH.

Welcome to Lightning's Blade. As soon as I hit 85, I'm gonna start raiding for our guild and get us some achievements/guild XP. Then "Lazercanonpewpew" will be teh epics.

Sudo_Nym · Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:58 pm

I swear, I'm gonna get the game, eventually. I just need to get some financial issues sorted out.

I'm thinking of being a mage, next. Any advice?

tanstalas · Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:00 pm

Sudo_Nym wrote:I swear, I'm gonna get the game, eventually. I just need to get some financial issues sorted out.

I'm thinking of being a mage, next. Any advice?

Don't

Such a pain in the ass to grind a mage

If you are set on a 'magic user' go Warlock or Priest

Sudo_Nym · Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:17 pm

tanstalas wrote:
Sudo_Nym wrote:I swear, I'm gonna get the game, eventually. I just need to get some financial issues sorted out.

I'm thinking of being a mage, next. Any advice?
Don't

Such a pain in the ass to grind a mage

If you are set on a 'magic user' go Warlock or Priest

Can you be more specific? I am a bit of a newbie, here.

tanstalas · Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:19 pm

More specific in what regard??

Grind? Process of leveling which is boring as hell.

Warlock or priest? Magic users who use the dark arts and have pets and a healer that can also be a crazy ass DD (warlock and priest respectively)

AGar · Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:01 am

Sudo_Nym wrote:
tanstalas wrote:
Sudo_Nym wrote:I swear, I'm gonna get the game, eventually. I just need to get some financial issues sorted out.

I'm thinking of being a mage, next. Any advice?
Don't

Such a pain in the ass to grind a mage

If you are set on a 'magic user' go Warlock or Priest
Can you be more specific? I am a bit of a newbie, here.

Mages are what are referred to as "Squishies". They die fast. They generally have cranked DPS output to compensate, but yeah.

Warlocks are clothies, but they can summon imps, succubuses, felhounds, and fel guard (among others I think - I never have leveled a lock) and if you level in the right spec for it, fel guard are basically walking tank pets.

Priests have heals so can spam self-heals in between DPSing for leveling, so they have that benefit.

Mages just hit hard, but if you don't kill, you die.