Mini 1064 - Charlie's Town (Game Over!)

[Shotty to the Body]

Scum team to the rescue with a counterwagon!

[masfloohinev]

Haha guessing, fine. "DERP DERP NO EXPLANATION VOTE OMG SOMEONE QUESTIONED ME DEFENDING SCUM HERP LOLOLOL"

That pretty much sums it up yes?

Close, but not quite. I'll explain later. BTW, this post is scummy too.

[masfloohinev]

FoS: RichardGHP

[masfloohinev]

Scum team to the rescue with a counterwagon!

Is this serious?

[Reckamonic]

Scum team to the rescue with a counterwagon!

Is this serious?

Is this?

Unvote; Vote: masfloohinev

[masfloohinev]

What?

[SpyreX]

I KNEW I had a game start that I didn't put in my bookmarks.

Sheesh.

Unvote, Vote: Shotty

Methinks thou dost protest too much

[q21]

Haha guessing, fine. "DERP DERP NO EXPLANATION VOTE OMG SOMEONE QUESTIONED ME DEFENDING SCUM HERP LOLOLOL"

That pretty much sums it up yes?

Close, but not quite. I'll explain later. BTW, this post is scummy too.

Personally, I hate this "I'll explain later" crap. If you have a point, make it.

[Shotty to the Body]

Haha guessing, fine. "DERP DERP NO EXPLANATION VOTE OMG SOMEONE QUESTIONED ME DEFENDING SCUM HERP LOLOLOL"

That pretty much sums it up yes?

Close, but not quite. I'll explain later. BTW, this post is scummy too.

Personally, I hate this "I'll explain later" crap. If you have a point, make it.

Shhh, he might get away with bullshitting a point later if you don't speak up!

@Spyre: Protest what exactly? He voted without posting a word of reason which isn't excusable even in the RVS and then turns it into some sort of terrible gambit when he gets called out on it. Oh, and it's drawing votes away from GHP who he throws a weak FOS at to distance with.

@masfloodsadjnfj: Sure, why not?

[Substrike22]

UNVOTE: whoever I had my vote on for rvs
VOTE: Masfloohinev

FoS aimed at your probable scum buddy and two posts with little to no content, and a lot of ambiguity.

Especially posts 52 and 53. They are scummy as hell. 51 is decent, at least it kind of makes a point, but then you blew that by saying "I'll explain later."

[SpyreX]

@Spyre: Protest what exactly? He voted without posting a word of reason which isn't excusable even in the RVS and then turns it into some sort of terrible gambit when he gets called out on it. Oh, and it's drawing votes away from GHP who he throws a weak FOS at to distance with.

Vote: RichGHP

RVS shouldn't be so literal.

Why?

Lol.

Haha guessing, fine. "DERP DERP NO EXPLANATION VOTE OMG SOMEONE QUESTIONED ME DEFENDING SCUM HERP LOLOLOL"

That pretty much sums it up yes?

Scum team to the rescue with a counterwagon!

[masfloohinev]

Wow. Shotty, that post was full of crap. There is a lot of evidence suggesting that you are scum right now:

The reason for originally voting you was because you showed a strange amount of interest in my vote for q21. It was the RVS, so why did you have to ask me if I had reasons for my vote? What kind of answer were you expecting? ("He's got the letter q in his name, that's why!!!") Did you think my vote was serious at the time?

You think my vote for q21 was to draw votes away from RichardGHP. This logic is soooo incredibly irrational. First of all, you seem to think my vote was useless because it had no reasons accompanied to it, yet you are also blaming me for drawing votes away from RichardGHP. Secondly, why in the world would I be interested in taking votes away from somebody in the RVS?!?

Also, your suspicion of me and RichardGHP seems wierd. You have brought up several points against me (bad points), you haven't shown extreme suspicion of anybody else, and I currently only have one vote (I think), so why not vote for me? Is it because you are afraid to? I don't believe you actually feel that me and RichardGHP are scumbuddies, because that should involve having quite a bit of certainty that I am scum, yet you are voting RichardGHP instead. If you suspect RichardGHP on the basis of me being scum, then you should be voting me, but if you suspect me on the basis of RichardGHP being scum, then you actually need evidence explaining why RichardGHP is scum, because you haven't given any points (and you seem to be against players keeping their points to themselves). And if you

are

suspecting me on the basis that RichardGHP being scum, then you failed to mention when your vote became serious (looks like

you

are also withholding information). Saying you suspect us both based on me supposedly trying to "draw votes away" also makes no sense: I gave no reason for my vote. You seriously think a REASONLESS VOTE was designed to draw votes away from another player from and RVS BANDWAGON?!?

The purpose of the reasonless vote and giving reasons later was because I wanted to see how people reacted and what sort of actions they took in response before they knew the reasons. For example, I am thinking FakeGod is scum based on his response to my vote for Shotty.

[FakeGod]

I am thinking FakeGod is scum based on his response to my vote for Shotty.

Where's your vote?

[Shotty to the Body]

Cool Spyre, quoting stuff and saying nothing, forgot how much I disliked your play.

Wow. Shotty, that post was full of crap. There is a lot of evidence suggesting that you are scum right now:

We'll see what you say here then.

The reason for originally voting you was because you showed a strange amount of interest in my vote for q21. It was the RVS, so why did you have to ask me if I had reasons for my vote? What kind of answer were you expecting? ("He's got the letter q in his name, that's why!!!") Did you think my vote was serious at the time?

So I was dead-on in my quote of you from before where you're herp derping fishing for a reason to vote someone. How is the single word 'why?' an "inordinate amount on interest." Considering you voted without saying anything isn't it a fair question? If you were voting him for having a 'q' in his name all you had to do was say so. Your vote may or may not've been serious, I didn't know since you said nothing, you could've been pushing a policy lynch for all I knew at the time so I asked for clarification.

You think my vote for q21 was to draw votes away from RichardGHP. This logic is soooo incredibly irrational. First of all, you seem to think my vote was useless because it had no reasons accompanied to it, yet you are also blaming me for drawing votes away from RichardGHP. Secondly, why in the world would I be interested in taking votes away from somebody in the RVS?!?

A reasonless vote isn't useless, it's a good scum-tell! At any stage in the game, scum often have trouble scum-hunting and weakness like your reasonless vote and the FoS on GHP are signs of it. As for taking votes away from him, he was at what 4? That's over halfway to lynch, you wouldn't want your scum-friend getting caught by a stupid RVS wagon, so of course you would try to shift focus if the two of you were buddies. I believe you're behavior was taking the pressure off of GHP, RVS or not I don't really see how that gives you an excuse.

Also, your suspicion of me and RichardGHP seems wierd. You have brought up several points against me (bad points), you haven't shown extreme suspicion of anybody else, and I currently only have one vote (I think), so why not vote for me? Is it because you are afraid to? I don't believe you actually feel that me and RichardGHP are scumbuddies, because that should involve having quite a bit of certainty that I am scum, yet you are voting RichardGHP instead. If you suspect RichardGHP on the basis of me being scum, then you should be voting me, but if you suspect me on the basis of RichardGHP being scum, then you actually need evidence explaining why RichardGHP is scum, because you haven't given any points (and you seem to be against players keeping their points to themselves). And if you are suspecting me on the basis that RichardGHP being scum, then you failed to mention when your vote became serious (looks like you are also withholding information). Saying you suspect us both based on me supposedly trying to "draw votes away" also makes no sense: I gave no reason for my vote. You seriously think a REASONLESS VOTE was designed to draw votes away from another player from and RVS BANDWAGON?!?

GHP is as good a push as any at this point in the game, at the beginning you have little to no evidence on anyone. It's not like he's done anything to make me think better of him, he's letting you fight his battle and his only post since I voted him was OMGUS after two people had already voted me. Your FoS links you to him as you're covering all your bases at that point by simultaneously attacking (via FoS) and defending him (in this post saying I have no points on him). If GHP is town his odds of being a VT are greater than his odds of being a PR, so why not push it? Especially, when I'll have a fairly solid opinion on your alignment if he flips scum. Even if the wagon goes nowhere, we're still generating information right now instead of sitting around so what the fuck why not? If you want to be frank, mas, I'm still on his wagon because it's bigger than yours is right now and I'm indifferent to lynching either of you.

The purpose of the reasonless vote and giving reasons later was because I wanted to see how people reacted and what sort of actions they took in response before they knew the reasons. For example, I am thinking FakeGod is scum based on his response to my vote for Shotty.

So are you saying we're buddies or what? You still haven't explained why I'm scummy, all you've done is contest my arguments which isn't the same thing (townies can be wrong after all). Your all or nothing attitude towards alignment is incorrect at best.

[SpyreX]

Thats cool bro.

Lets play words and meaning since well, my quotes were just SOO BAD:

GHP is as good a push as any at this point in the game, at the beginning you have little to no evidence on anyone.

Scum team to the rescue with a counterwagon!

That second quote is an awesome one under the guise of "little to no evidence". Considering, to make said statement: Richard would be scum AND at least one of: Substrike, jmurph3, masflooh, and well, Richard are scum. (If one wants to get banal, its really two of the latter because the scum 'team' has come to the rescue).

FURTHER, if we want to get into it you're saying that the initial wagon is fairly town weighted. You know that wagon that got all the way up to L-2 (I think) under the weight of itself? Yea.

So, what's the dealio. Is it "no information" or is it "Richard is scum and the wagon on me is scum saving scum".

[SpyreX]

(Or, if you will, methinks thou dost protest too much)

[Shotty to the Body]

You're quotes are pointless when it's essentially the whole ISO (5/6 post-start posts) with zero explanation. Post 50 was hyperbole if you want to get technical, the point was focused at mahfloo and OMGUS from GHP. "Little to no" doesn't mean zero either, Richard and mahfloogsfaslk are the best bet right now in my opinion, so I'm voting them and laying out some points. If you want to sit around and wait til page 10 to start I'll just back off and we can twiddle our thumbs and not generate any info.

[Substrike22]

You're quotes are pointless when it's essentially the whole ISO (5/6 post-start posts) with zero explanation. Post 50 was hyperbole if you want to get technical, the point was focused at mahfloo and OMGUS from GHP. "Little to no" doesn't mean zero either, Richard and mahfloogsfaslk are the best bet right now in my opinion, so I'm voting them and laying out some points. If you want to sit around and wait til page 10 to start I'll just back off and we can twiddle our thumbs and not generate any info.

No. Let's lynch Masf. He's scum and he FoS'd his scum buddy.

[Nachomamma8]

Wow. Shotty, that post was full of crap. There is a lot of evidence suggesting that you are scum right now:

The reason for originally voting you was because you showed a strange amount of interest in my vote for q21. It was the RVS, so why did you have to ask me if I had reasons for my vote? What kind of answer were you expecting? ("He's got the letter q in his name, that's why!!!") Did you think my vote was serious at the time?

You think my vote for q21 was to draw votes away from RichardGHP. This logic is soooo incredibly irrational. First of all, you seem to think my vote was useless because it had no reasons accompanied to it, yet you are also blaming me for drawing votes away from RichardGHP. Secondly, why in the world would I be interested in taking votes away from somebody in the RVS?!?

Also, your suspicion of me and RichardGHP seems wierd. You have brought up several points against me (bad points), you haven't shown extreme suspicion of anybody else, and I currently only have one vote (I think), so why not vote for me? Is it because you are afraid to? I don't believe you actually feel that me and RichardGHP are scumbuddies, because that should involve having quite a bit of certainty that I am scum, yet you are voting RichardGHP instead. If you suspect RichardGHP on the basis of me being scum, then you should be voting me, but if you suspect me on the basis of RichardGHP being scum, then you actually need evidence explaining why RichardGHP is scum, because you haven't given any points (and you seem to be against players keeping their points to themselves). And if you

are

suspecting me on the basis that RichardGHP being scum, then you failed to mention when your vote became serious (looks like

you

are also withholding information). Saying you suspect us both based on me supposedly trying to "draw votes away" also makes no sense: I gave no reason for my vote. You seriously think a REASONLESS VOTE was designed to draw votes away from another player from and RVS BANDWAGON?!?

The purpose of the reasonless vote and giving reasons later was because I wanted to see how people reacted and what sort of actions they took in response before they knew the reasons. For example, I am thinking FakeGod is scum based on his response to my vote for Shotty.

Vote: masfloohinev

[Nachomamma8]

that makes it a lot of votes btw

[SpyreX]

What I was getting at is you've been waaay too reactionary to the votes.

Further, "scum are setting me up as the opposing bandwagon" is not any form of "no, little, small, tiny" or any other term for minute in relation to the implied information that statement has to have to have meaning.

[Reckamonic]

We'll be catching up on the walls o' text at some point today/tomorrow (whenever we can sync our schedules up).

Should probably note - half of this hydra will be

V/LA from Friday through Monday

so the other half probably won't be posting much during that time.

@SpyreX: The other half of this hydra won't let me CAPS LAWK ALLIANCE with you, but you should just know up front that we're town, k?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Unvote, vote: massflowinevian

[RichardGHP]

I have no comment on the RVS wagon on me, but please do not refer to me as GHP. Instead, call me Richard.

I've made two RVS votes, and since RVS is now over, it's time to get serious. Nacho's vote in post 68 causes a reaffirmation of my intitial vote on him.

Unvote, Vote: Nacho

; mas reads as town right off the bat and Nacho has posted 3 times thus far. Meanwhile, none of those posts are even remotely exonerating or content-laden.

HoS Cogito Ergo Sum

for the former reason.

[Charlie]

Bump.
Cogito Ergo Sum, I'm counting that last vote on massflowinevian as a vote on masfloohinev.