Mini 1044: Lie to Me Mafia - Game Over

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

FOS: Robbnva

Your GIF image deceptively places a lego piece in a tetras build. And, the lines do not disappear when the row is complete.

Espeonage

: Treestump sounds like a useless role. Do you like to be useless?

[Robbnva]

Lol, that avatar a buddy made for this football mmorpg we play, our team is video game theme, so each player is named after a video game.

Avatar is pretty good considering the 30k limit they have

I know pretty lame, not as cool as playing a mafia game on a forum

[Antihero]

Robbnva and Espeonage, have either of you actually played Jester before. Because it sucks.

In other news, Tazaro is still scum. Wagon, please.

[Tazaro]

Why am I scum?

[Robbnva]

Robbnva and Espeonage, have either of you actually played Jester before. Because it sucks.

In other news, Tazaro is still scum. Wagon, please.

Not sure how jester works here but the other site I play, jester wins if lynched

getting lynched is pretty easy to do

[Robbnva]

Why am I scum?

This reminds me of this crappy mafia site called epic mafia

it is like instant mafia, games last about 10 to 20 mins

they love the phrase why me = fry me

but I would like to hear why he thinks you are scum

[Tasky]

Timezone: GMT+1
Experience: I played a couple of games on this site, and a huge amount of real-life mafia
Fave Role: I'd say townie, but there are some town power roles I like
Playstyle in a nutshell: I actually played differently in every game I was in on this site... so I can't really tell.
Are you familiar with the theme?: yeah, I

love

Lie To Me...
Fave Alignment: TOWN


VOTE: Tazaro, for being scum

[Antihero]

UNVOTE: Tazaro
VOTE: Tasky

[Antihero]

Why am I scum?

No reason. I just had to get the ball rolling with some tunneling.

Now, as to why Tasky seriously is scum.

Look at how Tasky answered the questions. The first five (minus the timezone) are all answered in the same style: "answer, some detail." The last question is simply answered in one word (and in all caps to make sure we're all convinced of it). The styles of answering the question changed from when he was probably telling the truth to the last question; he's lying.

[Antihero]

And the fact that he followed my senseless tunneling doesn't help either.

[Robbnva]

Timezone: GMT+1
Experience: I played a couple of games on this site, and a huge amount of real-life mafia
Fave Role: I'd say townie, but there are some town power roles I like
Playstyle in a nutshell: I actually played differently in every game I was in on this site... so I can't really tell.
Are you familiar with the theme?: yeah, I

love

Lie To Me...
Fave Alignment: TOWN


VOTE: Tazaro, for being scum

Hmm real life mafia, so you are scum by nature

vote tasky

[Tasky]

Look at how Tasky answered the questions. The first five (minus the timezone) are all answered in the same style: "answer, some detail." The last question is simply answered in one word (and in all caps to make sure we're all convinced of it). The styles of answering the question changed from when he was probably telling the truth to the last question; he's lying.

wow... so you think you know better than me what alignment I prefer to play?
and even if I preferred to play mafia over playing town, how exactly would that make me scummy in this game since I did not pick my role.

I actually voted Tazaro for inter-game reasons (we played a game recently where he was believed to be scum by everybody but turned out town in the end). nothing to do with following your tunnel (the whole world is NOT rotating around you)

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

Tasky

, are you aligned with town in this game? Will you have a favorite experience, or an unfavorite experience?

I think we should vote players for

intra

-game reasons, and not

inter

-game reasons. It does not matter what role they played in another game. It only matters what role they play in this game.

[Tazaro]

Why am I scum?

No reason. I just had to get the ball rolling with some tunneling.

Now, as to why Tasky seriously is scum.

Look at how Tasky answered the questions. The first five (minus the timezone) are all answered in the same style: "answer, some detail." The last question is simply answered in one word (and in all caps to make sure we're all convinced of it). The styles of answering the question changed from when he was probably telling the truth to the last question; he's lying.

Overanalyis much?

[Tasky]

Tasky

, are you aligned with town in this game? Will you have a favorite experience, or an unfavorite experience?

yeah, I'm town-aligned... don't understand the second part of the question though

I think we should vote players for

intra

-game reasons, and not

inter

-game reasons. It does not matter what role they played in another game. It only matters what role they play in this game.

well... it's RVS man, you vote for whatever reason you want...
UNVOTE: VOTE: Shepherd_of_Wolves because 1+2=3

[ZeroFang]

I noticed how Taz was the only one brave enough to say that his favorite alignment was scum. I also noticed how Tasky put his preference in all caps.

Vote: Tasky

because his emphasis on preferring town is scummy. If you prefer town, you should just say it. Highlighting it like that looks like you're trying to score town points.

It's the beginning of the game, vote is highly subject to change, etc. etc.

[CryMeARiver]

Timezone:
Experience:
Fave Role:
Playstyle in a nutshell:
Are you familiar with the theme?
Fave Alignment or Role: (I know this isn't a upick but it is still an important question for when we need to start looking at motives for actions.)

Also disclaimer: I changed my avvie independently to this game. I didn't find out about this game until about two days after I changed my avvie.

East Coast Timezone (USA)
Experience, many, many games, but I recently just got back to MS from a summerlong break
Playstyle: You either hate it or you find me a good player, but mostly ya hate it
I have seen commercials for the show and know the basic plot
Favorite Alignment: Town, Favorite Role: VT, cop, watcher (I enjoy the scumhunting)

I disagree that it was a rolefish, but don't find AntiHero scummy or reaching for him to think that
@Taz: Sorry, I'll keep my big head in my pants
Note: Taz is claiming town LOL but I don't like his distancing or his wording that his favorite "role" has nothing to do with this game, rather than his favorite "alignment"
@Taz: Why me = Fry me
@Robb: STFU, epic mafia is the shit! VOTE: Robb

Alright, so the thing I was talking about before that no one has seemed to question me on has be answered, but I will pose the question in thread for the mod to answer to you guys:
Due to the flavor one might assume the game has a "lie detector" (I'm not trying to trick you into sayin whether or not there is). Due to rule 15a I wanted to check if suggesting the idea that everyone posts "I am not mafia" in the thread so that a potential lie detector becomes virtually a cop is breakin the game. Again, I'm not looking for any role info, I'm just looking for a "yes this idea is acceptable" or a "no, this ideacould potentially break the game". Thanks!

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

The 5 questions are addressed to Tasky, but anyone can also respond.

Tasky

, are you aligned with town in this game? Will you have a favorite experience, or an unfavorite experience?

yeah, I'm town-aligned... don't understand the second part of the question though

I think we should vote players for

intra

-game reasons, and not

inter

-game reasons. It does not matter what role they played in another game. It only matters what role they play in this game.

well... it's RVS man, you vote for whatever reason you want...
UNVOTE: VOTE: Shepherd_of_Wolves because 1+2=3

Nice! Another RV for "whatever reason you want..." I assume, the dot dot dot, means you can

fabricate

"whatever reason you

want

..." I am honestly okay with what ever vote you cast at this point. As it cannot yet lead to an incorrect lynch. But, I will have my eye on you to see if you continue to fabricate "whatever reason you want..."

(1) What are your rules for defining RVS?
(2) What do you call the stage after RVS?
(3) What are your rules that define the next Stage?

The second part of my question is related to the first part.

Fave Alignment: TOWN

You stated TOWN was your Favorite alignment. So, I was asking a semi-redundant question. If it is your favorite experience to be town aligned, and if you are town aligned, I suspect you would answer in the affirmative.

(4) How many times have you played mafia alignment?
(5) What makes it less favorable to you than playing town alignment?

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

I disagree that it was a rolefish, but don't find AntiHero scummy or reaching for him to think that
Note: Taz is claiming town LOL but I don't like his distancing or his wording that his favorite "role" has nothing to do with this game, rather than his favorite "alignment"

Alright, so the thing I was talking about before that no one has seemed to question me on has be answered, but I will pose the question in thread for the mod to answer to you guys:
Due to the flavor one might assume the game has a "lie detector" (I'm not trying to trick you into sayin whether or not there is). Due to rule 15a I wanted to check if suggesting the idea that everyone posts "I am not mafia" in the thread so that a potential lie detector becomes virtually a cop is breakin the game. Again, I'm not looking for any role info, I'm just looking for a "yes this idea is acceptable" or a "no, this ideacould potentially break the game". Thanks!

You are really focused on the term "rolefish".

(1) What qualifies as role fishing?
(2) What details made you think of this

specific

question?
(3) What details made you think that everyone should make the same statement?
(4) Why do you assume that such a mechanism of "lie detector" would effectively respond to such a statement by each player?

[Maddie]

Hey! Sorry to be in so late after the game has started. I will post tomorrow morning after I have had a chance to catch up with everything that's been going on. Cheers!

[CryMeARiver]

I disagree that it was a rolefish, but don't find AntiHero scummy or reaching for him to think that
Note: Taz is claiming town LOL but I don't like his distancing or his wording that his favorite "role" has nothing to do with this game, rather than his favorite "alignment"

Alright, so the thing I was talking about before that no one has seemed to question me on has be answered, but I will pose the question in thread for the mod to answer to you guys:
Due to the flavor one might assume the game has a "lie detector" (I'm not trying to trick you into sayin whether or not there is). Due to rule 15a I wanted to check if suggesting the idea that everyone posts "I am not mafia" in the thread so that a potential lie detector becomes virtually a cop is breakin the game. Again, I'm not looking for any role info, I'm just looking for a "yes this idea is acceptable" or a "no, this ideacould potentially break the game". Thanks!

You are really focused on the term "rolefish".

(1) What qualifies as role fishing?
(2) What details made you think of this

specific

question?
(3) What details made you think that everyone should make the same statement?
(4) Why do you assume that such a mechanism of "lie detector" would effectively respond to such a statement by each player?

I disagree that I am focused on the term rolefish, I used it once because that's what Taz referred to it as, rolefishing
Rolefishing is in any way attempting to gain unnecessary knowledge on one's role
I actually thought of this question when I was discussing the TV show (Lie to Me) with a friend on this site, offsite (sorasgoof), specifically, I mentioned he was like a human lie detector and ergo this question popped up
The fact that it turns the lie detector into a virtual cop if everyone states the same statement
I'm a bit confused on this question, if I read it right, the role of lie detector, or what I've seen of it, is a player can send a statement made by another player during the previous day(s) to the mod, and will get a response of whether or not it was true, hence, this idea would work effectively.

To be truthful, I have already started to pick up on some town PR tells.

[Tasky]

Alright, so the thing I was talking about before that no one has seemed to question me on has be answered, but I will pose the question in thread for the mod to answer to you guys:
Due to the flavor one might assume the game has a "lie detector" (I'm not trying to trick you into sayin whether or not there is). Due to rule 15a I wanted to check if suggesting the idea that everyone posts "I am not mafia" in the thread so that a potential lie detector becomes virtually a cop is breakin the game. Again, I'm not looking for any role info, I'm just looking for a "yes this idea is acceptable" or a "no, this ideacould potentially break the game". Thanks!

I think the idea is ok... after all it costs nothing to state that:

I am not Mafia.

and yes, I AM highlighting it.

I am now stating some things, so a potential lie detector will look for what he needs. (disclaimer: the statements below aren't all necessarily true)
a) I am a vanilla townie
b) I am a town power role
c) I am a cop
d) I am a doctor
e) I am a jailkeeper
f) I am a vigilante
g) I am a tracker
h) I am a watcher
i) I am a JoaT
j) I am a mafia goon
k) I am a mafia power role
l) I am a mafia roleblocker
m) I am a mafia godfather
n) I am a serial killer
o) I am nothing of the above

Nice! Another RV for "whatever reason you want..." I assume, the dot dot dot, means you can

fabricate

"whatever reason you

want

..." I am honestly okay with what ever vote you cast at this point. As it cannot yet lead to an incorrect lynch. But, I will have my eye on you to see if you continue to fabricate "whatever reason you want..."

actually the dots are just a bad habit of mine while writing.

(1) What are your rules for defining RVS?
(2) What do you call the stage after RVS?
(3) What are your rules that define the next Stage?

1. everybody votes for a random person for a stupid reason. just to cast a vote. used to begin the game
2. I wouldn't divide the game in "stages". how am I supposed to do that?
3. no general rules here. as soon as random vote start stopping, it's good to start looking over peoples posts twice and go scumhunt. usually that's achieved through a RVS-bandwagon

(4) How many times have you played mafia alignment?
(5) What makes it less favorable to you than playing town alignment?

4. once online (well, I've only played 3 games, so not really a big sample), a lot of times real-life
5. I hate to have to care about my scumbuddies in one way or another. and I hate having to lie and always be cautious.
I like doing crazy things but I wouldn't have the gut to do so as scum (also the reason why I usually don't like being a strong power-role: more responsibility).

[Antihero]

Look at how Tasky answered the questions. The first five (minus the timezone) are all answered in the same style: "answer, some detail." The last question is simply answered in one word (and in all caps to make sure we're all convinced of it). The styles of answering the question changed from when he was probably telling the truth to the last question; he's lying.

wow... so you think you know better than me what alignment I prefer to play?
and even if I preferred to play mafia over playing town, how exactly would that make me scummy in this game since I did not pick my role.

I actually voted Tazaro for inter-game reasons (we played a game recently where he was believed to be scum by everybody but turned out town in the end). nothing to do with following your tunnel (the whole world is NOT rotating around you)

Tasky, whatever I say and whatever tone I say it in, I

don't

mean personally (also, I'm not nearly as confident as my tone suggests). Relax, it's just a game.

Overanalyis much?

That's how I roll. :p

Now, can anyone tell me why this post is incredibly scummy?

I noticed how Taz was the only one brave enough to say that his favorite alignment was scum. I also noticed how Tasky put his preference in all caps.

Vote: Tasky

because his emphasis on preferring town is scummy. If you prefer town, you should just say it. Highlighting it like that looks like you're trying to score town points.

It's the beginning of the game, vote is highly subject to change, etc. etc.

Preview edit: Tasky's idea is a good one

[Antihero]

I am aligned with the town.

[Tasky]

Now, can anyone tell me why this post is incredibly scummy?

I noticed how Taz was the only one brave enough to say that his favorite alignment was scum. I also noticed how Tasky put his preference in all caps.

Vote: Tasky

because his emphasis on preferring town is scummy. If you prefer town, you should just say it. Highlighting it like that looks like you're trying to score town points.

It's the beginning of the game, vote is highly subject to change, etc. etc.

hmm... the only thing I could come up with is this:
he says Taz is brave enough to say his fav. alignment is scum, like he would like to say that himself but fears to be lynched for it.