Mini 991 - POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA (GAME)

[Parama]

Though you really did overreact to my point. And OMGUSed because of it. Yes, your vote is OMGUS. You didn't do anything to disprove my case and you haven't made any good points against me.

No, my vote is not OMGUS. You presented a case based on a misunderstanding - that was that. I cleared it up. The issue should have been taken care of right then and you should have moved on. Calling me hypocritical for asking for analysis from TBM on PAGE FUCKING 2 is fucking scummy. Why don't you attack Andrius - all he's done is ask questions. Why don't you attack 3/4 of the players here for "not providing any analysis"?

The "case" (I swear this isn't the right word for my original point) started because of the misunderstanding. But when you cleared that up I saw something much worse than the original accusation, that being the hypocrisy involved in the question. And again, don't use the page 2 card. Why am I scummy for starting to scumhunt earlier than most people are used to? Isn't that, like, pro-town?
Meh, you do have a point on Andrius, though most of the questions were still during the RVS phase of the game (which has since ended). Though I will say asking good questions generates info for the town... but his questions aren't really good ones :/
Problem is this looks like deflecting. And deflecting coming from my #1 scumpick = not exactly interested in pursuing the case.

[Parama]

EBWOP: Crap, I forgot to put the two posts into one

Read this one first

if you notice it before you read the first one.
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Wow that's one mess of a sentence.

@Parama: I'm seriously thinking you're confusing me with someone else.

Nope.

Yes but what you asked is hypocritical, which is the problem. This is exactly my point.

Now Parama, we were on Page 2. There's not a whole lot to analyze. I want a reaction from TBM about his wagon. That's all. Calling me hypocritical for responding when not everyone is even posting is a huuuge stretch. My later responses, which you found hypocritical were:

1. Clarifying your original misunderstanding of my question
2. Saying "I'm lazy." I am lazy, and I didn't have 5 minutes for a "quick analysis." Sorry.

No, you're missing the point. You clarified the misunderstanding; that was fine. But that made the original question into (essentially): "Are you going to provide content, TheButtonmen?" which is what I'm finding hypocritical seeing as you weren't providing any original content yourself.

And don't play the "it's only page 2 card" because I HAVE caught scum by page 3 based on the first 3 pages of a game.

What does this mean? Considering you haven't asked any questions since the one directed towards Gamma, I have no clue what you're trying to say here.

...I've never directed any questions towards Gamma.

Sorry, I meant the one at TBM. Late night posting makes Parama forgetful

[TheButtonmen]

Yo; still alive.

Post this evening, father day things today.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Explain how my defense is "crap" and which posts are IoA.

Why your defense is crap: Parama made very good points against you and you basically dismissed them. I honestly hated that you said you were lazy (Not an excuse), used the "Don't call this post OMGUS!" excuse, which is very scummy. And as Parama pointed out, you overreact to stuff.

Posts that are IoA: I will explain if need so.

But your avatar is so cool I might have to become one.

Hahahaha, become a Fire Emblem fan.

Although I could see myself wearing a sweet hood/cape thing.

Oh yeah, @Kmd: Use "bookmark this thread" at the bottom. They're basically watched topics.

@Gammagooey: The difference between two quotes is that Budja only voted and gave town read. Empking on the other hand, actually provided a reason for his vote. It isn't much, but it is something.

[Karma]

Why your defense is crap: Parama made very good points against you and you basically dismissed them. I honestly hated that you said you were lazy (Not an excuse), used the "Don't call this post OMGUS!" excuse, which is very scummy. And as Parama pointed out, you overreact to stuff.

Parama's points were NOT. GOOD. He calls my question hypocritical when it wasn't. He didn't give me a chance to do any analysis - it's not that it was Page 2 more than it is a short period of time during which I really did have some RL stuff going on, believe it or not. TBM never gave me a response. I was planning to analyze it, see if it looked scummy.

Parama says this himself, right here:

Though I will say asking good questions generates info for the town...

I thought asking TBM for a response on his wagon would generate info for the town. I agree, my "anything to say?" question was vague and useless. But asking him how he felt about the speed, the players on it, etc. is a good question.

And SSBF, I don't care if you hate that I'm lazy. I am. Get over yourself.

And those IoA posts were not IoA. 2/3 of them were fluff and one of them was a legitimate attempt to help out. If you're going to call fluff in the RVS scummy then I don't even know what to do. You're seriously misunderstanding the term.

However, I slept on it, and I realized my frustration with Parama makes this really feel like town on town. Parama's attacks are wrong and horribly misguided but he's trying, which I can't say for most of the town.
UNVOTE: Parama

[ReaperCharlie]

Will catch up and post later today. Have been gone this weekend, sry

[Gammagooey]

@Gammagooey: The difference between two quotes is that Budja only voted and gave town read. Empking on the other hand, actually provided a reason for his vote. It isn't much, but it is something.

So why is a vote reasoning inherently better than a town read? I'm not getting it.

[Kmd4390]

Andrius, you ask why you are one of my suspects.

ISO 0: Joke vote on Gamma.

ISO 1: Comment on Suave's avatar.

2: Response to Smash Bro's questions aimed at everyone

3: More Time Zone and Avatar talk.
4: Avatar related comment
5: Avatar talk,

response to joke wagon on button

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and vote count preference.

6:

Asking about Reap's joke vote.

7:

Response to contentless post,

response to suspicion against you.

CONTENT-O-METER

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How do I make my text bigger now? size=20 made it smaller

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Blue=RVS. Total 2.3333 of 8 posts. 29%

Orange=Poor, but contentish posts. 1.5 of 8 posts. 19%

Purple=Speaking to Mod. .3333 of 8 posts. 4%.

Maroon=Non-game talk. 3.3333 of 8 posts. 42%

Green=Fair Content. .3333 of 8 posts. 4%

Calculating...
RVS...content value...mid-low
Poor content...content value...mid-low
Speaking to mod...content value...low
Non-game...content value...none
Fair...content value...high
Calculating...
4% low...
4% high...
38% mid-low...
42% none...
Overall content value...none to mid-low...

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I don't believe I was prodded. If I was, I didn't see it. I remembered the game because I was looking for another in Coney, saw this one, and went "oh crap".

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Karma, thanks but it's not the same. =(

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Smash Bros, I don't expect time zones to be an issue. I'm EST though.

About RVS wagoning, it's not about "OMG WE MIGHT LYNCH THEM", it's more like... you're trying to fit in or something. Kind of staying in the background doing what is popular. Site meta is that bandwagoning isn't really a scumtell early in a game, so people subconsiously view it as a towntell although scum do tend to do it.

The thing that I disliked most about the second post is that I didn't even realize it was "RQS" for a second. Not sure why, but that bothered me. Using RQS itself isn't a scumtell as I've seen a few people do it, but it doesn't help town. Laying a vote says so much more than "Hey, what time zone is everyone in?". I can accept that as a playstyle difference though.

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Unvote, Vote Andrius

. Feeling this more than Smash Bros right now.

[Gammagooey]

It's based on %s now Kmd, so 100 is default

150 looks like this

and

85 looks like this

Also your maths are a wee bit off, they only add up to 7.8333 out of 8.

Back to waitan games.

[Karma]

I like the feeling of a nice warm Andrius wagon.

VOTE: Andrius

[ReaperCharlie]

As per my wiki:

I knew RC would come around at the smell of a good wagon. - Andrius

Time for that quote to come true, baby!

Vote: Andrius

[Gammagooey]

This wagon makes me paranoid. Although it does make me feel a little better about Kmd just by comparison to the other people on it.

[ReaperCharlie]

Probably because Kmd gave a sh*t-ton of IoA before voting, while Karma and I didn't bother.

Sound warm?

[Gammagooey]

Uuuuuuuuuuh reread my post I think you have my suspicions backwards.

And I'll pass for now.

[ReaperCharlie]

Do you think Andrius is scummy?

[Gammagooey]

Not really. Around half the game is pretty contentless right now.

[Karma]

But Andrius is more active-lurky than the rest.

[Gammagooey]

Still nope. That's a large reason of why I don't like the wagon by the way- Empking and MrSuave and Andrius and Budja and ButtonMen and Reaper are all dismally low on content and yet Andrius is getting singled out and gets 3 votes in about an hour, including one from someone who barely has any content himself.

[MrSuave]

I don't think wagons are very warm D:

[Gammagooey]

Suaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave who do you think is scum?

[Parama]

My top scumpick jumps on the newly forming Andrius wagon ----> I'm convinced Andrius isn't the right place for a wagon right now

My logic works in simple yet efficient ways. And Gamma has a point, considering nearly nobody is providing content right now. Hell, Kmd, Karma isn't really providing much content either, so why isn't he a good wagon? He's prodding others to provide content but isn't doing so himself.

[Karma]

I think it's in the town's best interests to just ignore the drivel that comes out of Parama's mouth.

I've explained why it wasn't hypocritical and you keep calling it that. You completely ignored my post before my Andrius vote.

I hate how you're town.

[Parama]

It is hypocritical, you haven't explained why, and I'm certainly not spouting drivel, considering I'm more right than you are.

[Karma]

Do you know how to read?

[Gammagooey]

So I was gonna wait some more for others to post before doing this but it's getting rediculous.

Unvote
Vote:Karma

You'll get reasons as soon as everyone else stops dicking around and actually says what they think of everything/who the scum is.