NY 114: Mafia vs. Werewolves (Game Over)


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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:26 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:27 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:29 pm

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@daniel and Lowell: Glad to see you confirm through here. Now just hoping both of you confirmed through PM as well.

Really excited for the game, as a matter of fact, this may be my best Mafia game yet.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:32 pm

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Your best game is getting lynched D1? <_<
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:36 pm

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Just wanted you guys to be aware of this pre-game. In this game and Thrillville Mafia, I will be introducing a new gimmick by me. It's basically where I rank other people. I'll explain.

First off, it's just me doing it, I don't really want anyone else doing this. Secondly, I want to have something that distinguish myself from other people. Third, it helps keep my thoughts on players somewhat organized. I will be updating this on a semi-regular bases.

These are the three arrows that I will be using:

Image You have gone up in ranking. This is done by making positive contribuation to the game. You can go up until you reach 1st.
Image You stay in place. You may have done nothing to convince me to give you a more towner read or a scummier read or you may have done a equal amount of scumminess and positive contribuation.
Image You've gone down in ranking. You have been guilty of commiting scummy acts and thus deserve to go down. Or it could be simply because I noticed another player making more pro-town contribution to the game.

This is how I'm currently ranking everyone here:
1st:Imageaskbob
2nd:ImageChronopie
3rd:Imagedaniel94581
4th:ImageDr. Robotnik
5th:ImageDry-fit
6th:Imagefoilist13
7th:ImageLeafsnail
8th:ImageLowell
9th:ImageLynchMePls
10th:ImageMidnight's Sorrow
11th:Imagenhammen
12th:ImageParama
13th:Imagepman5595
14th:ImagePomegranate
15th:ImageSeraphim
16th:ImageSerialClergyman
17th:ImageSevis
18th:ImageSGRaaize
19th:ImageThe Goat
20th:ImageTimeater
21st:ImageUnsight
22nd:ImageVezopiraka
23rd:ImageVi

If you're high up, then you're doing great and I encourage you to do just as well or even better. If you're in the middle, you're safe for now, but I want to see more out of you. If you're low, you're on thin ice and if you're in the lowest ranking, expect a vote from me.

Don't fret now, thought. Everyone has a neutral read from me now, since this is after all, pre-game. Plus, this is in alphabetical order for now. There is nothing to worry about until the rankings actually start to change.

Hope the idea is interesting. If not, then I will discard it.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:37 pm

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Don't give town reads because that tells the mafia who to kill.
Stick to giving scum reads and only scum reads (neutral reads MAYBE)
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:37 pm

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Parama wrote:Your best game is getting lynched D1? <_<
No it is not (It's my worst game). My best game would be either Tree Stump Mafia or Newbie Mafia 5 in Smash World Forums.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:39 pm

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How often are you going to be making this fully ranked list?

It's not a good idea for the Scum to know who the town find to be town, as that narrows down the number of people to NK, as opposed to push a mislynch on.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:40 pm

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heh, cross-posted with both of you.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:42 pm

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Chronopie wrote:How often are you going to be making this fully ranked list?
I'll start updating it with my first random vote in the game. Then when I make a serious vote, I'll make another update. Will update once I find another top lynch candidate, or if there's a considerable shake up in my list.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:44 pm

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Don't give more than the bottom 6 at any given time, please.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 2:54 pm

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Parama wrote:Don't give more than the bottom 6 at any given time, please.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 3:18 pm

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Dissenting comment.

It's fine to give general Town reads. Identifying Townies is just as important (and at times easier) than finding scum. I don't buy the "directing the NK/clueing the scum in" argument tbqh; I have to wonder from where people are hearing it.~

Putting out a ranked 23-tier list will not only get you a citation on Internet dictionaries under "over the top", it will also prove to be too foggy to work better than just saying "____ is Town/scum" (especially around the middle) and will take up way too much of your time, especially with the image tags. This is coming from someone who has been nominated for a title for being OCD. Don't bother with it.

Also, and on a more personal note - I appreciate that you feel that you're on top of the game and are playing like an IC, in a sense. With that said, I don't think it has worked for you yet ITT. Don't overdo it. :takeiteasy:

Last, I have to agree that I find your avatar unsatisfactory. :P What do you want it to be?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 3:43 pm

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@Chronopie, Parama, and Vi: All of you make good points about my list. Just want to say thanks.
Vi wrote:It's fine to give general Town reads. Identifying Townies is just as important (and at times easier) than finding scum. I don't buy the "directing the NK/clueing the scum in" argument tbqh; I have to wonder from where people are hearing it.~
This. I also find it weird that people are so afraid of giving out town lists. They're so commonly done here and I didn't bother them at all, so why start now?

On top of that, let's bring up Smash World Forums, another great place to play Mafia games (They're quicker, thought). If you mention even one person who has a town read from you, they will freak out. Did this in two games that are ongoing and the reactions weren't that good.
Vi wrote:Last, I have to agree that I find your avatar unsatisfactory. :P What do you want it to be?
You'll see in a minute.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 3:50 pm

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 3:54 pm

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Sort of leery of being ranked up in the top by SSBF. I don't know whether he's trying to suck up because I don't really trust him or what. I don't know if he regularly does that or not. Anyone else play with him?

That being said I'm not a whole big fan of townie lists. At least at the beginning. Its not a big deal, but I think its more beneficial to post scum lists to begin with then after we're at the 3/4/5 day phase to start including town. I dunno thats just from my experience.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 3:55 pm

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Chronopie wrote:Your new avatar: I don't understand what it's meant to represent. Clue me in.
It's the super smash bros symbol? Lol. Play moar n64.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 3:55 pm

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Chronopie wrote:Your new avatar: I don't understand what it's meant to represent. Clue me in.
Play Super Smash Bros. Or just google it. You'll run into that symbol eventually.
askbob 65 wrote:Sort of leery of being ranked up in the top by SSBF. I don't know whether he's trying to suck up because I don't really trust him or what.
...It's in alphabetical order. *hits you with frying pan*
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 4:02 pm

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askbob 65 wrote:Sort of leery of being ranked up in the top by SSBF. I don't know whether he's trying to suck up because I don't really trust him or what.
...It's in alphabetical order. *hits you with frying pan*[/quote]

lol didn't even notice that

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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 4:03 pm

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Question for SSBF

have you done rankings like this in other games?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 4:14 pm

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Chronopie wrote:Your new avatar: I don't understand what it's meant to represent. Clue me in.
Time for a longer explaination of it.

My avatar is the symbol of the Super Smash Bros. series. It is a fighting genre consisted of many Nintendo characters over the year. It plays quite differently from other fighting games.

This is personally my favorite video game series. I had a ton of memory with the first two games and the 3rd one on the Wii (
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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The original on the Nintendo 64 called
Super Smash Bros.
was released in 1999. If you have a Wii, you can hook it up online. All you need is a Wii Point Card, a online Wii, and a Classic Controller/Gamecube Controller. The game cost 1,000 Wii Point Cards in Japan, Europe, North America, and Australia under the Virtual Console, which is a service dedicated to reviving older games on a weekly bases. It's a fantastic game IMO, you should check it out sometimes.

If you have a Gamecube/Wii, you can get
Super Smash Bros. Melee
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Finally, the latest installment is
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
, which released on March 9, 2008. Despite the horrible online, it is a really great game and I do recommend it to you.

Give Smash a try and you will most likely love it.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 4:17 pm

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@askbob: I have done this before. I can't mention ongoing games, so the one finished game I have done this in so far is Tree Stump Mafia in Smash World Forums.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 4:18 pm

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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 4:57 pm

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I love the song for the Master hand Battle in Super Smash Bros for the N64 :3 that is all~
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2010 7:31 pm

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I find SSBF to be trying way too hard -- not so much because he is undertaking rather overambitious projects in hope to find scum, but because he is repeatedly stating obvious matters as if they were brilliant ideas of his (8, to a lesser extent 29, 48, very clear again in 54) and demanding that no others go to such absurd lengths (again 54). I'm getting more of a VI read than a scum one. One thing that does bug me is his implied thread in 54:
SSBF, post 54 wrote:If you're high up, then you're doing great and I encourage you to do just as well or even better. If you're in the middle,
you're safe for now, but I want to see more out of you.
If you're low, you're on thin ice and if you're in the lowest ranking, expect a vote from me.

Don't fret now, thought. Everyone has a neutral read from me now, since this is after all, pre-game. Plus, this is in alphabetical order for now.
There is nothing to worry about until the rankings actually start to change.
The two bold bits struck out as especially unusual: it seems to me like SSBF is expecting people to care quite a bit about what he thinks of them. I can see how this would fit VI mentality, though, so it stays my main guess.

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