Mini 969 - Smalltown: Stardust Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 9:31 am

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That would potentially be good for the town.

It doesn't seem like a useful ability for scum of any kind. I guess the mafia could protect a better powered one of their own, but it doesn't really seem that worth it.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 9:41 am

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Zang wrote:Who wants to be networked tonight?
Pick me! That was the role I wanted anyway :P
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 9:41 am

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Mr. Bean wrote:everyone should target me tonight except the scum with their kills obv :D
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 9:53 am

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I'ma be honest, I haven't seen Stardust since 2007 so I don't really remember much of anything. So I looked up my character online, and found out that I was ...

... a hot blonde chick! Score!

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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 9:58 am

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Have you always wanted to be a hot blond chick, Charlie?
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 10:08 am

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He gets a hot blonde chick and I get a goat. Wow.

I don't think it's going to be very useful to direct actions for the first night. I think a mass action claim day 2 may be potentially useful though, but we should probably wait and see.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 10:10 am

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He gets a hot blonde chick and I get a goat. Wow.
I got a fence!

(but it's an awesome fence)
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 12:21 pm

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Faraday wrote:He
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a goat. Wow.
Fixed. 8-)

No hard feelings though. I would have picked the goat, too.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 12:47 pm

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Mafia Bodyguard... probably not that useful to the Mafia. I mean, if the setup is exactly as stated, then it really wouldn't help the Mafia.

It's been a while since I've played a game with a CPR Doc. Is the idea to just play like a vig?
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 12:49 pm

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That was my intention when I took it. Don't really get the point of the protect thing.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 12:55 pm

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Re-reading the mod notes on Tristan Thorne, it looks like I can only learn Tracking, Roleblocking, Networking, and Redirection.

Bah. Motivation would have been cool.

So CML, forget your idea about targeting me with your bodyguard power...
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 1:03 pm

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Jack wrote:If the tracker lacks a better target they should follow the bodyguard. If the bodyguard is scum they will be tempted to go nowhere. The threat of them being tracked may force them to go somewhere, and possibly be killed.
Hmmm.

If I understand correctly, the Bodyguard is not a bus driver, so his chances of dying are doubled if he protects someone, right? i.e., he could die if someone kills him OR the person he chose to protect?

This idea could make sense, since there is disincentive for a scum Bodyguard to use their ability.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 1:07 pm

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Mr. Bean wrote:
Jack wrote:If the tracker lacks a better target they should follow the bodyguard. If the bodyguard is scum they will be tempted to go nowhere. The threat of them being tracked may force them to go somewhere, and possibly be killed.
Hmmm.

If I understand correctly, the Bodyguard is not a bus driver, so his chances of dying are doubled if he protects someone, right? i.e., he could die if someone kills him OR the person he chose to protect?

This idea could make sense, since there is disincentive for a scum Bodyguard to use their ability.
I disagree. If the mafia had the bodyguard, and he didn't use his powers he would essentially be a goon. As a goon he would be less important to protect and so he should use his powers on his team because they have more important roles.

Does that make sence?
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 1:13 pm

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But if I tried to kill his partner (who I would obviously suspect) and the bodyguard died instead and flipped mafia, there would be a high chance of his partner getting lynched or vigged in the near future. While the bodyguard himself may not be under suspicion at all.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 1:22 pm

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Zang wrote:
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Jack wrote:If the tracker lacks a better target they should follow the bodyguard. If the bodyguard is scum they will be tempted to go nowhere. The threat of them being tracked may force them to go somewhere, and possibly be killed.
Hmmm.

If I understand correctly, the Bodyguard is not a bus driver, so his chances of dying are doubled if he protects someone, right? i.e., he could die if someone kills him OR the person he chose to protect?

This idea could make sense, since there is disincentive for a scum Bodyguard to use their ability.
I disagree. If the mafia had the bodyguard, and he didn't use his powers he would essentially be a goon. As a goon he would be less important to protect and so he should use his powers on his team because they have more important roles.

Does that make sence?
Not really. A mafiate cannot use their ability and make a kill at the same time (although an SK can). So, a Mafia Bodyguard would make the kill and their partner would use their ability.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 1:27 pm

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Ok
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 3:14 pm

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But it'd still be a stupid idea, like Jack said in 88. I'd laugh so hard if that happened.

On a side note: I just went out and bought Stardust and will be watching it tonight. lmao

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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:04 pm

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Never played in a game with a motivator before, sounded interesting so I took it. Any thoughts on who to target? I was thinking maybe the tracker since it will help them find the SK, even if the tracker is scum. Maybe the bodyguard would be an OK choice too.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:17 pm

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Tracker is good. I doubt I'll be confidant enough in the guilt of two people to want to vig twice.

Bodyguard is interesting, it could allow them to protect two roles.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:22 pm

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The problem with tracking is that I believe the Lord Sept. is immune to being Tracked.

Let me check in another window ... yes I am remembering correct.

I'd suggest Bodyguarding would be a good double choice.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:26 pm

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Yes, I'm sure you really had to check another window to make sure of that...I remembered it from reading over the opening posts a couple times while thinking about what I wanted to pick/how the system works. Sounds like you are afraid of someone saying you are overly acquainted with the SK role pm.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:33 pm

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Funny ... if you remembered it from the opening post why didn't you say that Tracking, specifically to find the Lord Sept, was completely flawed?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:38 pm

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It isn't flawed if faraday is a townie, which he probably is. That makes it very powerful and better than most other choices for motivator. Wasn't thinking about the SK part of it when I said "tracker is good".

When you said he couldn't be tracked I remembered it right away, no need to "check in another window". Were you or weren't you adding that bit so that it didn't look like you had intimate knowledge of the SK role pm?
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:49 pm

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Jack wrote: When you said he couldn't be tracked I remembered it right away, no need to "check in another window". Were you or weren't you adding that bit so that it didn't look like you had intimate knowledge of the SK role pm?
I typed it and then clicked over to look at Ooba's role description of Billy the Goat in Post 1 where the information is located. Why didn't you remember right away when Kdub mentioned Tracking the SK if it was so obvious?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Thu May 13, 2010 4:58 pm

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I didn't pay any attention to that part.

You didn't say whether you were adding the bit on purpose, to emphasize that you didn't have intimate knowledge of the SK role pm.
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