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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:37 pm

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I'm seeing the inconsistencies in Josh's argument.

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I'd like to here more from him on the matter
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:38 pm

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I know how to unvote. But votes create pressure, and not using that pressure is a waste of the only game mechanic the town can use to their advantage. People often speak and post very differently when there are a few votes on them than they do when they feel they are not under close scrutiny. I like to have my vote on someone whenever possible.

why let the wagon get L-1 you don't need to let a wagon get that far to have pressure put on a person.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:16 pm

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why let the wagon get L-1 you don't need to let a wagon get that far to have pressure put on a person.
Well, when I voted Ooba it put him at L-2. Any less than that isn't actually really pressure to anyone who has played more than a game or two. No one is really in danger before L-2 or so. Further, like I said, I believe that after everyone started talking about hammering being scummy, Ooba was not in any danger of getting turbolynched. I would have liked to see how he reacted to being under serious pressure, but everyone talked it up too much and so he didn't actually have to react to any.
I'm seeing the inconsistencies in Josh's argument.
I'm happy to explain myself but I'm not really sure what arguments you are talking about. I put a vote on Ooba for reasons I have explained a couple times, and my SpyreX vote is because rolefishing is a pretty scummy play and at best is bad, anti-town play. If what he was doing was not rolefishing, then I don't understand this post at all:
You're right. 100%.

It was fishing. To see if there was something there that didn't add up with what was given (like a scum-paranoia about mechanics).

I'm busted.
What other arguments have I made that you find inconsistencies with, exactly?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:19 pm

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I am fishing. Fishing for explanations to see if there was an AHA moment there.

I am not fishing about anything about the role. This is doubly so when right after I went "ohh, ok".
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:23 pm

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Vicadin FTW.

Vote Count:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

(3) SpyreX: Ooba, JoshTheStampede, Slaine Hayes
(2) Ooba: Darox, cruelty
(2) CryMeARiver: MagnaofIllusion, Yosarian2
(1) Darox: CryMeARiver
(3) JoshTheStampede: easjo682, TheSkeward SpyreX

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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:18 pm

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Upon further review, I see where you explained yourself. i apologize, I missed that before.

But I'll keep my FoS on, like you, I don't really feel the need to move my votes or FoS's unless I have good reason to.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:13 am

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Spyrex what's tech?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:30 am

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The whole wagon against Spyrex here seems kind of goofy.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:34 am

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Just kinda? I didn't even realize it was THREE awesome votes.

Including one voting for me and FoS'ing Josh which is truly slam-dunk behavior.

Josh is tech is a statement of sarcasm with how quickly he pounced on something to divert attention.

Still would love to know how that was rolefishing, too.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:28 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Just kinda? I didn't even realize it was THREE awesome votes.

Including one voting for me and FoS'ing Josh which is truly slam-dunk behavior.

Josh is tech is a statement of sarcasm with how quickly he pounced on something to divert attention.

Still would love to know how that was rolefishing, too.
I still have no idea what "Josh is tech" means even after that explanation.

However, I read back at your "I am busted" post and realized that the issue is that I just can't understand what the hell you mean. I guess you were fishing for scum, somehow? Even though that doesn't really make sense. Fishing for scumslips, ok whatever, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one and admit I was possibly wrong about the vote. What you were saying still makes no sense to me but I don't really think it's scummy anymore.

Not going to move my vote yet though, because I have no other cases at the moment and you're in no danger. I'll do some iso reading tomorrow and see if I can't get a read on someone.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:27 pm

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Ok, I will ATTEMPT to get some logical discussion going here.

@Josh: If it turns out SpyreX is scum, what would you think of his alleged rolefishing then?
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:00 pm

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I still have no idea what "Josh is tech" means even after that explanation.

However, I read back at your "I am busted" post and realized that the issue is that I just can't understand what the hell you mean. I guess you were fishing for scum, somehow? Even though that doesn't really make sense. Fishing for scumslips, ok whatever, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one and admit I was possibly wrong about the vote. What you were saying still makes no sense to me but I don't really think it's scummy anymore.

Not going to move my vote yet though, because I have no other cases at the moment and you're in no danger. I'll do some iso reading tomorrow and see if I can't get a read on someone.
Tech as a statement of sarcasm because that was some nice good ol fashioned scum manuvering.

Yes, I was "fishing" for scum. Or, to be precise to see if the "why" for such an odd statement led to something far more interesting.

Note: You just said you don't find me scummy anymore, but the vote is a-ok because you have no other cases.

Yessir.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:09 pm

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yeah, but wtf does tech mean?
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:17 am

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Popping in to say I'll be V/LA until later on Monday ...
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:48 am

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The whole wagon against Spyrex here seems kind of goofy.

I still don't get how it got that far
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:49 am

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SpyreX wrote:Just kinda? I didn't even realize it was THREE awesome votes.

Including one voting for me and FoS'ing Josh which is truly slam-dunk behavior.

Josh is tech is a statement of sarcasm with how quickly he pounced on something to divert attention.

Still would love to know how that was rolefishing, too.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:57 am

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easjo682 wrote:
The whole wagon against Spyrex here seems kind of goofy.

I still don't get how it got that far
Three votes is far?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:19 am

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There are some unique roles and combinations, most used before on other sites. However, the game is not focused on power roles, but instead on creating levels of interaction and subtext: games within the game.
I'm an Innkeeper.

What does that tell you?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:30 am

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Darox wrote:
There are some unique roles and combinations, most used before on other sites. However, the game is not focused on power roles, but instead on creating levels of interaction and subtext: games within the game.
I'm an Innkeeper.

What does that tell you?
Is this some sort of role claim or is this your actual profession? I am now a little bit confused...
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:12 am

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Darox wrote:
There are some unique roles and combinations, most used before on other sites. However, the game is not focused on power roles, but instead on creating levels of interaction and subtext: games within the game.
I'm an Innkeeper.

What does that tell you?

What is that supposed to mean?
Yosarian2 wrote:The whole wagon against Spyrex here seems kind of goofy.
I agree
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:44 am

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Slaine Hayes wrote:Ok, I will ATTEMPT to get some logical discussion going here.

@Josh: If it turns out SpyreX is scum, what would you think of his alleged rolefishing then?
I'm not sure what you mean. If it turns out SpyreX is scum, then rolefishing would make sense for him? He's explained his fishing comment, so it's not really a thing anymore.

Darox, please explain your innkeeper comment. Is that some sort of flavorclaim?
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:55 am

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CryMeARiver wrote:Is this some sort of role claim or is this your actual profession? I am now a little bit confused...
Zang wrote:What is that supposed to mean?
JoshTheStampede wrote:Darox, please explain your innkeeper comment. Is that some sort of flavorclaim?
Guess.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:08 am

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I'm guessing it's your role because there hasn't really been any occupation named innkeeper since the 1800's
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:35 am

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Zang wrote:I'm guessing it's your role because there hasn't really been any occupation named innkeeper since the 1800's
Haha, I call outkeeper then! LOL :lol:
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:36 am

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Darox, you really should not claim or tell us anything about your role, even the flavor, unless you really have to.
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