Mini 928 - Bloodlust Mafia Remix - Over!

[The1fifi]

Okay, so you figure you'd get a reaction from self-voting. Of course you would, since it's a bloody stupid thing to do. What, can I ask, would you expect townie players to do, if you expect scum to always do what I did? Should the other people on your wagon, assuming they're town, have said to themselves "hmm, he is self-voting. This is obviously a gambit designed to catch scum, and therefore I will treat it as not suspicious," or what?

So, now you can do the work and prove to the others why voting for somebody who self-votes is scummy.

A statistical analysis or some metagaming would be ideal, otherwise it's just an unproven theory with nothing to support it.

As for your saying the vote was masked as an RVS, that's not what you said when you said this: "You jumped on the wagon acusing me of being funny, and not serious. In my opinion the RVS had not ended."

This contradiction causes me to get the sense you're just squirming around at the moment.

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ConfidAnon, what exactly about Fifi's point do you agree with, and why?

Bold 1 - Really? So anytime i say anything, i am suposed to give you links to something like statistics or articles or metaing to prove it?

Bold 2 - Could you do that statistic /meta thing about what you said? Otherwise that is wrong and can't be used, because people are just variables like x and y, and everyone reacts and plays the esaxct same way (irony).

Am i the only one seing how fail that is? Plus, let me adress something else:

When i said the RVS wasn't not over they definetely were not over. As i posted something like a self vote to get reactions i wouldn't do it like:

"Self vote bla bla, and btw this is the end of RVS because i m fishing for a reaction".

The RVS ended when you voted me for self voting. From that point onwards, we had something to work with.

Everytime you post i have a stronger scum feeling from you. You are just trying to hard to make me look bad, cause you know i am right.[/area]

Fixed

[The1fifi]

Reason i voted you:

What you did was cling on something i did that isn't scummy at all, and try to make it look like it is indeed

Reason why you say i voted you:

So, now you can do the work and prove to the others why voting for somebody who self-votes is scummy[/b]

umm. not quite the same thing i believe

[The1fifi]

Reason i voted you:

What you did was cling on something i did that isn't scummy at all, and try to make it look like it is indeed

Reason why you say i voted you:

So, now you can do the work and prove to the others why voting for somebody who self-votes is scummy

umm. not quite the same thing i believe

Fixed

[Nachomamma8]

Day 1 Votecount:

Haylen (2) - almightybob, Haylen
almightybob (1) - Mr.Sandman
McZombie (1) - MrSuave
The1fifi (3) - CS, Concerned, julien
julienwolfe (2) - The1fifi, ConfidAnon
Concerned (1) - Dr.Cyanide
MrSuave (1) - McZombie

Not Voting (1): bv310.

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is March 5th, 2010.

[Civil Scum]

You are just trying to hard to make me look bad,

Usually this can be a scum tell, though I'm recently inclined to think this is not a scum tell for julien.

[The1fifi]

You are just trying to hard to make me look bad,

Usually this can be a scum tell, though I'm recently inclined to think this is not a scum tell for julien.

And why is that?

[Civil Scum]

It's a big part of why I attacked him all my last game with him. Saying things just to make people look bad. He did it horribly all game and got lynched as a townie.

It's just how he plays I think, no matter how annoying it can get :/ which is pretty god damn annoying.

[Civil Scum]

Not that I won't lynch him this game, but not for that counter point to his attacks on you right now. And if that's all you have to go on, I would suggest trying to look past it for a while at some other players.

I'm more concerned about you're comment about people being friendly than the apparent back-tracking. I didn't like that sound of that one at all. Like julien said, casting light suspicion on whoever said jokign wasn't alright (no one) and kind of buddying up to everyone. Seemed like a suspicious comment to me. Mr. Sauve said somehting that pricked me too.

[julienvonwolfe]

Honestly, I find the accusation that I say things to make people look bad really annoying. Am I supposed to find scum by making them look

good?

Anyway, I'm not so concerned with Fifi right now. As town, she's wrong (from my point of view, of course, since I can read my role PM - I understand that the rest of you cannot) but I get the sense that she is too stubborn to back down and admit she might be wrong. Which is fair enough, since sticking to your guns in mafia is often useful. As scum, of course, I'm not sure that she would back down once in this position, either. In any event she's so hopelessly tunneled on me (and as Civil Scum alludes to, this sort of thing is bad for town) that going any further would be useless.

More interesting at the moment is ConfidAnon, who jumped on Fifi's reasoning with a seemingly wanton lack of critical thinking.

julien

, this:

Vote julienvonwolfe for trying to make up a reason to mask his true reason for jumping in the wagon. Being scum.

Your reasoning that you attached to the vote seemed off to me. Almost as if you were trying to hard to have a reason for your vote.

On a side note: I don't think that self-voting is suspicious . . . It's not good play, tbh, but it's not a serious scumtell.

What about 'buddying up to everyone' is trying too hard to have a reason for my vote?


And Fifi -

Bold 1 - Really? So anytime i say anything, i am suposed to give you links to something like statistics or articles or metaing to prove it?

Bold 2 - Could you do that statistic /meta thing about what you said? Otherwise that is wrong and can't be used, because people are just variables like x and y, and everyone reacts and plays the esaxct same way (irony).

1. It helps if you have a strong reason to suspect you're right, other than an unproven theory. Mafia is mainly a game of psychology. Psychology is a science.

2. If you clarify exactly what you wish me to find some statistics in support of, or meta for same, perhaps I could. I would certainly try.

[ConfidAnon]

Alright, explain how I have a "wanton lack of critical thinking" and the following quote:

What about 'buddying up to everyone' is trying too hard to have a reason for my vote?

Are you trying to say that I've been buddying up to everyone?

[bv310]

Vote: Fifi

Based on meta, this is exactly the way you play as scum. Prove me wrong, or put the chainsaw away and stop "Fix"-ing everybody's posts.

[The1fifi]

@bv310 : Lots of people can't be metaed. Especially people who have constant changes of toughts and emotions. Just because i play basket with my white shirt, doesn't mean e play football with the black one

Julien and Cs raised good points about my play being bad for town. I reckon i am tuneling and being stuborn.
But i didn't say it was suspicious not to be friendly.

unvote

need to some isos

[bv310]

That's a very valid point. My vote stays, since I like pressure in the RVS, but I see your point.

[Concerned]

Vote: the1fifi

Two people question your attack on Julien, apply an once of pressure, one of them being the focus of your attack and you fold like wet tissue paper? Seems a little like you're very wary of attracting any suspicion at all. A little to eager to be out of the spotlight eh?

[The1fifi]

That's a very valid point. My vote stays, since I like pressure in the RVS, but I see your point.

Glad you are not obtuse as me

[Concerned]

Eh, my vote was on fifi already, well consider this my srsbsn vote.

[The1fifi]

Eh, my vote was on fifi already, well consider this my srsbsn vote.

Are you so eager in pushing for my mislynch that you even vote me twice?

A bit ironic that spotlight thing i see.

Unvote

Vote Concerned

[Concerned]

Eh, my vote was on fifi already, well consider this my srsbsn vote.

Are you so eager in pushing for my mislynch that you even vote me twice?

A bit ironic that spotlight thing i see.

Unvote

Vote Concerned

How is it ironic in the slightest, I wasn't in the spotlight at the time?
Oh and nice OMGUS.

[bv310]

That's not really ironic. Maybe coincidental, but even then it's a stretch.

[The1fifi]

So i am scummy for self voting, but concerned isn't for voting twice on me.

[Haylen]

K. Just reading up. Sorry, it's been a busy few days for me: work, coursework and I just got engaged too - so it took me a while to find the perfect engagement ring. It's REALLY REALLY gorgous.

[Haylen]

Aww...we're out of the RVS...

Unvote myself

[The1fifi]

Vote: the1fifi

Two people question your attack on Julien, apply an once of pressure, one of them being the focus of your attack and you fold like wet tissue paper? Seems a little like you're very wary of attracting any suspicion at all.

A little to eager to be out of the spotlight eh?

Tell me how this is scummy please

[Concerned]

So i am scummy for self voting, but concerned isn't for voting twice on me.

Considering my first vote was a reasonless RvS vote, made in the spirit of getting things moving and my second vote was actually based on something which I find scummy I don't see what your problem with this is.

Vote: the1fifi

Two people question your attack on Julien, apply an once of pressure, one of them being the focus of your attack and you fold like wet tissue paper? Seems a little like you're very wary of attracting any suspicion at all.

A little to eager to be out of the spotlight eh?

Tell me how this is scummy please

To me scum-fifi would be worried that his current line of inquiry, was drawing attention to himself, so he quickly unvoted to avoid any more unwanted attention.
I'm not saying it's definite proof but combined with your somewhat erratic behavior it's certainly something.

[julienvonwolfe]

Alright, explain how I have a "wanton lack of critical thinking" and the following quote:

What about 'buddying up to everyone' is trying too hard to have a reason for my vote?

Are you trying to say that I've been buddying up to everyone?

No. If you read my 66, you will see that this was my main problem with Fifi, not you. My vote is on Fifi, not you, which makes your thinking I'm referring to you here quite strange.

Why did you think I was voting for Fifi, seeing that you missed this?